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[Troubleshooter11]

To think that i actually paused the game midway to go take a long walk and think long and hard about whether to cure the genophage or not....only to find out it doesnt even flipping matter.

My Paragon Engineer!Shepard failed, his goal was to stop the Reapers, stop the cycles, preserve the civilizations of not just Earth, but also the other Council races. (Dont forget, he's still a flipping Spectre). Insted he died blowing up the Reapers, the centre of the galactic community and cut off the only way for the races to travel at reasonable speeds. (Now reduced to "normal" FTL drives insted of near-instantaneous mass relay travel). Millions are now stranded in the Sol system, all fully armed to the teeth but pretty pissed off they are cut off. The Sol system will likely become a warzone once alliances start to break down.

The Normandy crew is stranded on some remote planet from the looks of it, unlikely to make it off the planet again.

[theshuo]

Been a customer for over ten years, after this, no way. It's been a fun ride, but this is where I get off.

[Ameno Xiel]

Already canceled my SWTOR abo. No more money for Bioware from my side.
They got enough already since BG.
I wanted to dive into the Dragon Age Franchise sometime in the future - wouldn't happen then.

So yeah, it will have consequences from my side.

Don't really care if they fix it now either. The damage is done, trust is gone and hopefully other companies will learn from their mistakes.

[MedhiaNox]

If they don't change the ending then I look forward to ME 4 being a thousand years into the future... and rediscovering what happened to the races in the wake of the Reaper threat.

And I'm sure my character will be key in rebuilding the ME universe.

And there will be no more Reapers - it's the only thing about the ending that is good. The Reaper plot doomed the ME series from the beginning. Science fiction should approach concepts like this very carefully - if at all.

[VeryHappySloth]

If they dont fix it, I'm not buying anything EA/Bioware related. I used to spend money when I see a Bioware product, but this really hurt. I was honestly going to go out to buy the Aria comics, the 2 or 3 novels, the ME2 action figures, the Mass Effect art book (the one that costs $40), upcoming DLC and ME4. If they decide to sit on their butt and do nothing about it, then I'll sit on my butt and buy nothing from them. Maybe i'll only have Bethesda to rely on.

Modifié par VeryHappySloth, 12 mars 2012 - 02:50 .

[MrPuschel]

Let's be realistic. They won't change it. I think thats clear. But meaningless of that, i wish that they keep it in mind for upcoming productions.

[FeelingOfMadness]

So what happens if they dont change it? What will be your feelings then and what are you going to do?

Honestly for me if there is no change in the ending I think this will be my last BioWare game. This is something I never expected to say let alone think of especially since I enjoyed DAII. But honestly ME3 gave me a feeling in my stomach I have never felt in a video game EVER, so I just cant trust a company that can play with your emotions like that.

Yes. BioWare reached too far. I'll never forgive them for last 30 minuts of the game, which I loved since first second of playing. Rest in piece..

I'm commander Shepard and that WAS my favourite game in the Universe..

[Pani Mauser]

If they don't change the ending, I won't buy a single pre-finale DLC they are going to make for ME3 (because what's the point in additional missions if ending is still the same pile of plothole crap?). I won't buy any other ME game they make. Even if events of current ME-trilogy are the distant past - no matter. They ****ed up the universe, don't want to touch it again.

And I'm sure not buying any other BW game before I read all spoiler about it. Don't want the same kick in the quad again.So, no preorders, no day one buys and such. Maybe no buys at all.

I'm keeping my SWTOR abo though, because my friends don't deserve to suffer for BW mistake. But I was never expecting to say that SWTOR gives me more satisfaction than ME.If someone told me this a week ago, I would laugh in their face. SWTOR is a fun game to play couple of hours a day casually, nothing more. How could it compare to grand and epic Mass Effect?! Shows how little I know.  

Modifié par Babe Mause, 12 mars 2012 - 02:58 .

[goose2989]

 I won't be buying DLC. Not onnly because I am so upset at how the ending plays out, but I don't see the point in adding to the gameplay when I know how gloom it ends every time. If they do intend to extend the ending to give us the CHOICe of a happy ending, then I'll likely change my mind in a heartbeat. 

But if Bioware only releases weapon and armor packs, multiplayer and story DLC that happens pre-finish, I sure won't buy it

[1104194442]

Babe Mause wrote...

If they don't change the ending, I won't buy a single pre-finale DLC they are going to make for ME3 (because what's the point in additional missions if ending is still the same pile of plothole crap?). I won't buy any other ME game they make. Even if events of current ME-trilogy are the distant past - no matter. They ****ed up the universe, don't want to touch it again.

And I'm sure not buying any other BW game before I read all spoiler about it. Don't want the same kick in the quad again.So, no preorders, no day one buys and such. Maybe no buys at all

this
beat the game saturday and still extremely sad and disappointed

[Lassiveran]

No DLC purchases for me. I did not purchase any over the Dragon Age 2 fiasco. I probably will not purchase another Bioware Game again. Why would I become emotionally invested in another one of their games to be torn and angry over the ending. I love the fact that up until after Andersons death there were very powerful moments in storytelling. The ending and my sacrifice should had the same emotional response not angry WTF moments. I can only hope that Bioware writers intentions all along were the indoctrination theories floating around. I otherwise can't believe they would work so hard to kill a franchise in the last 5 minutes.

[anihilato]

Very simple. I will not shell out cash on any bioware game unless friends tell me the game is awesome. I will most certainly not give a cent for any extra things for ME3, regardless of quality.

[shodiswe]

I loved the game and I found it gave emotional attachment, least for me, it was great until after the scene where the illusive man shot himself and the part with anderson. After that, I kind of lost the thread. It didn't feel satisfactory after that part. Bad horriffic endings is one thing but an endign that's unfulfilling and doesn't make sense is another. If they would have beefed it up more, even if it's a tragedy, you expect more than that.

My guess is that the reaper guardian(catalyst/small kid) wasn't in control due to the protheans sabotage. That would kind of make sense, and Shepard had to make a choice between very horrible and uncertain options. I can justify the ending but I still find the ending unsatisfactory and would have expected more drama from it. Maybe an even more epic space battle with friendly faces doing their best against those ruthless reapers. A sense of the desperation in the choices.

I would have considered it ok if it was gutwrenching if only it had been presented in a better all over package.

Now it feelt like someone saying, ok you rebelled we will chagne things and they you have to be happy with the results.

1. You get to kill us, you kill all space travel, you kill all syntetic life, geth, EDI, all. Including your friends and allies.

2. You turn all organics and syntetics into a hybrid lifeform like the husks... no more info... ummmm ok...

3. You take control over the reapers but it kills you.  Seriously... If it actualy killed you.. how do you know that control means something in the long run?

You are attempting to negotiate on behalf of all life in the galaxy, organic and syntetic... and all you get is 3 uncertain deals from the "devil". The main character (me) says "I don't know, "(im just too tired and wants to die, I guess I'l pick one before I hit the floor again.) 

Getting mortaly wounded and fighting to his/her last breath was ok imo... But the end didn't work or make sense... The acceptance of the situation seems forced and out of character.

Short version, im not satisfied with the ending, it seemed rushed and forced. I loved most of the game up to that point.
It took me a while until I decided to read this forum to see what other people said. Least it feels good to know im not the only one that feels the ending was lacking.  
Cliffhangers are ok when you expect a sequel to sort out the loose ends... too many loose ends.

[The Divine Avenger]

Sorayai wrote...

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

Honestly for me if there is no change in the ending I think this will be my last BioWare game. This is something I never expected to say let alone think of especially since I enjoyed DAII. But honestly ME3 gave me a feeling in my stomach I have never felt in a video game EVER, so I just cant trust a company that can play with your emotions like that.

I feel exactly the same as you. the ending made me feel absolutely devastated and horrible. my hope that built up over 3 games was completely crushed... my visions of a happy ending with Shepard/LI were torn apart.

I thought Shepard deserved at least that after all the losses, after all the sacrifices he/she made. (if you work towards it and have enough assets)

if they dont make a new ending I will lose hope in Bioware and probably never buy any of their games again, because ME3's ending was just that big of a stab to my heart

I'm 100% with you both, as I said many times before I was more than happy to put in 200+ hours to find a happy ending for Shep & LI. The ending has completly crushed me, I an never again look at Bioware or Mass Effect the same way after this. Even if they brought out DLC to fix it it's still a betrayel that I could never forgive no matter how hard I try. If they bring out DLC to fix the end it will be the last bit of money Bioware ever gets from me I'll never buy there game's again after this. They've broken my heart & all trust & faith I had in them has been distroyed, from now on everytime I hear the name Bioware the only thing that will come to mind is how they betrayed me with ME3.

[Eirnae]

The Angry One wrote...

I will not buy DLC for this.
I will carefully consider any future BioWare purchase and will not pre order.

Yeah, I know, I'm quoting ... but I couldn't of said it better myself.

[Shadeart]

Losing both a fellow customer (from KOTOR to be clear) and any possibility of me being any of the DLCs they will throw at us. Come on a post-ending DLC would be crap and a DLC that helps you gathering war asset is just a non-sense we all know it won't matter.

[All the good names were taken]

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

Honestly guys I'm with all of you demanding a change but lets be honest they don't HAVE to do ****. They can just say that is the story they wanted to tell, simple as that. I mean despite all the polls and threads, twitter posts, and outrage I am a realist. 20,000 people are not a majority and yes there probably is a giant silent majority but if they dont voice their opinion then nobody cares. It's like everyone who complains about COD each year yet it tops sales records each year, most people are gullible.

So what happens if they dont change it? What will be your feelings then and what are you going to do?

Honestly for me if there is no change in the ending I think this will be my last BioWare game. This is something I never expected to say let alone think of especially since I enjoyed DAII. But honestly ME3 gave me a feeling in my stomach I have never felt in a video game EVER, so I just cant trust a company that can play with your emotions like that. The only other series I have felt such an emotional connection to was MGS and MGS4 ended perfectly for me, it might have been a cop out "happy" ending, but I cried and felt good about it. Even if Snake died at the end and there was no final BB scene I still would have been happy. But ME3 is like Snake failed and died, Patriots won, and we dont even find out what happens to any of the characters.

If they don't change it I'll probably just alt+f4 when the laser hits Shepard and make up my own ending in my head when I play the game in the future. The game was generally pretty phenomenal and was much better than I thought it would be, so I'm not going to let the last 5-10 minutes ruin that.

[alienatedflea]

good lord people...the endings MAKES sense!!! it couldn't have been anyother way....here is my logic:

BLUE: Paragon Shepard would never condone genecide (even if a synethic race like Reapers or the geth) He chose to sacrifice himself to save everyone. He didn't really die...you can't control anything if you are dead...He chose to become the reapers to control them. If you picked this ending, fighting stops...Reapers leave (we presume for good).

Green: Neutral Shepard (in my opinion is the "best" ending) knows no one person should control the reapers but it does not want to destroy all synthetics (even the innocent i.e. Geth) as well as all technology based on reaper tech. So He sacrifice himself again but in this time, his energy combined with the crucible energies that dispersed to change everythings "framework" so organics and Synethics can co-exist..

Red: Renegade Shepard was hell bent determined to destroy the reapers no matter the cost. (its quite funny to see that renegade option is now deemed the "best option") He committed a possible three genocides that was no sweat to him. He is cold and caliculated. He destroyed the reapers and all technologies that rely on reaper tech. I would say that destroying the Reapers might have been at too great of a cost for the galaxy in my opinion.

I know I could go into more depth about the explanation of each ending but if people would look at the endings in the way I prescribed them then people would eventually stop crying about not having a storybook ending and know that shep was never destined to have such an ending.

[ChristianTh]

alienatedflea wrote...

good lord people...the endings MAKES sense!!! it couldn't have been anyother way....here is my logic:

BLUE: Paragon Shepard would never condone genecide (even if a synethic race like Reapers or the geth) He chose to sacrifice himself to save everyone. He didn't really die...you can't control anything if you are dead...He chose to become the reapers to control them. If you picked this ending, fighting stops...Reapers leave (we presume for good).

Green: Neutral Shepard (in my opinion is the "best" ending) knows no one person should control the reapers but it does not want to destroy all synthetics (even the innocent i.e. Geth) as well as all technology based on reaper tech. So He sacrifice himself again but in this time, his energy combined with the crucible energies that dispersed to change everythings "framework" so organics and Synethics can co-exist..

Red: Renegade Shepard was hell bent determined to destroy the reapers no matter the cost. (its quite funny to see that renegade option is now deemed the "best option") He committed a possible three genocides that was no sweat to him. He is cold and caliculated. He destroyed the reapers and all technologies that rely on reaper tech. I would say that destroying the Reapers might have been at too great of a cost for the galaxy in my opinion.

I know I could go into more depth about the explanation of each ending but if people would look at the endings in the way I prescribed them then people would eventually stop crying about not having a storybook ending and know that shep was never destined to have such an ending.

Your explanaitions are ok, but in fact there is a lack of explanation what happens then. How much do the Portals damage the starsystems they are in? What happend to your squadmades? What is your LI thinking?
How do your allies get back to their starsystem or do we have concquerd rannoch for nothing? There are more open questions of this kind like what happend to the reaper you get the ffe from in ME2? What weapon damaged this reaper so baldly that he can' t be repaired?

The BLUE-ending: How can you control something that absrobes you alive? You remember, sheppard turns black like the illusiveman partwise. At latest when you read the book that plays between Part 2 and 3 these ending makes no sense because if the reaper nanites get you, what is the only explanation why shepard turns black when he not get burned, they change your mind, they change everything you are, they only need longer if you are strongminded, so you are able to life and walk away or get transferd into something that will life for ever. But you see nothing, same cut scene as green and the Portals are destroyed and nobody explains why. In this ending the portaldesctruction is not explained nor necessary, because you forced the reapers to leave.

The GREEN-ending: You jump into the Beam, all organics get partwise synthetic and the synthetic get partwise organic. What the hell? Same Scenes as blue but all is painted over with a green circuitlayer, but same cutscenes as Blue, now in green. Maybe the reapers leave for another reason but you see the same as in blue but with green ans circuitlayer in the last scene.

The RED-ending: You destroy them with a big bang, here i understand why the massrelays are blown up and 1 cutscene is different, the reapers fall aside here. But the normandy still strands anywhere and your squadmates walk out. Here without EDI and Joker not smiling. But your LI walks out without any sign of emotion.

So all 3 endings are the same scenes with minor changes in colour and detail (circuitlayer, reapers fall asside or leave, EDI walks out the normandy or not).

At this point I began to wonder if there is another, more emotional ending. They told us about
endings that would take care of every decisson we make. Sry, can' t see
them. The only differences are the damage done to earth and the number
of Squadmates that leave the normandy after their crash with minor changes. Thats why people fall upset. Nobody explains the boy and everything ends with the destroy of the massrelays. The normandy runs through a Portal and crashes somethere. Why?
Your LI doesn' t even matter in the endings? Doesn' t even show a single emtion, on the other hand they animated emotins like the Asaricomando at Thessia... or the kissscene with Liara on Earth before the final assault.

But hey, this is like the decontaminationroomscene on mars, if you look exactly there are some laxnesses.
The Expactations where high on this game and there are a lot of fans who read every book and played every DLC, like me. The Press told us about so many different endings and a high replayvalue because of the different endings and then there are always the same cutscenes with minor changes, this isn' t exactly what i expectet from 16+ different endings (german media in their review). They wanted to create an open ending so that everybody can imagine what ever he or she wants but that failed for a lare amount of fans in this forum and if this weren' t the BSN and the section where only gameowners can write I would say I give a ***t about it but this is the BSN where BW wants to be in touch with their fans and customers. So it is up to them to listen and thin about it. And explain why they choosed these endings or to ignore all this or to change something.
A lot of people here said that they don' t like the ending of ME3 and that they are willing to pay for a better ending so BW can make that DLC and collect that money or they try their luck with other DLC. In the end the customers choose to trust BW and buy that DLCs or not.
In fact we got promissed 16+ different endings and a lot of fans preorderd. So I preorderd a game with 16+ different endings and got one with 3 different endings witch differ only in details and not in the story told and this is why I feel screwed. It' s like the book "Big expactations" I expected more about it.

[Ratham]

Then in the words of Wrex "They're fools, you should eat them"

Modifié par Ratham, 12 mars 2012 - 06:10 .

[Militarized]

No more money, biggest thing you can do.

[wombat_stalker]

I was already at the "thanks but sorry Bioware, this is where we part ways" stage after the face import debacle, but gave it another try since getting money back for a game is pretty much impossible. I managed to get into the game with the help of fan made tools and had a good time... until the end. Yeah. The part that was supposed to be more awesome than facing down a reaper on foot with a laser pointer? There's such a thing as trying too hard. (which is very sad considering the rest of the game was awesome) But when the last 10 minutes of a game ruin all replay value for the entire trilogy... it's time to just walk away.

[MOELANDER]

I played Baldurs Gate 2: Stellar Ending in every Aligned way, be it neutral, evil or good.
NWN though not being perfect had also a good ending with some sacrifices and closure.
KotOR had a short, but brilliant ending in both ways you could end it.
Jade Empire, just had text, but it still was a satisfying ending!
Dragon Age had a wonderful epilogue whatever you chose.

Mass Effect 3 if not changed will be Eine unglaublich verdammte Scheißenttäuschung, pardon my german! And I will probably never buy any BioWare products anymore because of it. It's that bad. I want closure, I want an epilogue worthy of it! I also would like my decisions to matter more (my EMS should be able to save Shepard if I max it! But I can live with a sacrifice).


So:
If BioWare doesn't change the ending, they lost a long-time customer.

[cookiewombat]

If the ending never gets changed or extended/expanded with dlc, I'm much less likely to every buy or play another mass effect/bioware game...

[savionen]

Not like one person matters in this situation, but if they release DLC without changing the endings I don't plan on buying them. I'd enjoy taking back Omega, but could really care less if Omega is just destroyed regardless of what you do. Ultimately it won't shape the ending either, oh boy, I got 200 more War Assets.

I'd be reluctant to buy anything else they made, as well. Already cancelled SWTOR.

Modifié par savionen, 12 mars 2012 - 06:20 .