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#101
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It technically wouldn't be impossible to do another game. Those 'things' people keep referring to can you know... Same as if.. Well... Lets make an example. You take an engine out of a car and it won't run. But if you Replace that engine, perhaps build a new one. Then the car should run yes?

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The ending of ME3 negates the possibility of an ME4. There's just no way it can work without jumping a good 100,000 years into the future. and with jumps that huge, they may as well make a new franchise since there'd be nothing recognizable.

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Never going to happen.

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Maybe when Bioware gets desperate.

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

The ending of ME3 negates the possibility of an ME4. There's just no way it can work without jumping a good 100,000 years into the future. and with jumps that huge, they may as well make a new franchise since there'd be nothing recognizable.

They can retcon a different ending the same way in DA2 leliana was alive and with the chantry.
They can do whatever the hell they want.

#106
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How can BW do a ME 4?
reapers wipe out civilation, or
everybody becomes like Saren, or
reaper shep controls everything, or
relays are destroyed and u have a post holocaust universe.

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StrikeSaber47 wrote...

Trying to avoid spoilers but the outcome of ME 3 will totally eliminate a possible ME 4 post-ME 3 environment. Therefore if they want a ME 4, they seriously need to fix the ending loopholes in 3 first.


Back to the past? Rachni wars/Geth incursions?

Maybe even further? "The fall of the Protheans"? They have 1,000 years of war to string a story out of. Am I the only one a bit miffed that they didn't stretch ME3 out over several decades? Would have loved that tbh.

#108
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I refuse to even entertain the prospect of another entry to the ME franchise until that damn ending is eradicated and left in nothing but the depths of ME3 veterans' memories.

I know, hyperbole. Whatever. 36hrs later and I still can't get the taste of acid out of my mouth. I haven't turned on my Xbox since. It was that bad.

#109
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Agreed with staindgrey.
So much anticipation for a pile of **** at the end. ME4 would be impossible unless one were planning to stay in one place entirely, as one race. If anything, ME4 would have to be a pre-Mass Effect story.

Despite my anger at ME3 and all, I would buy a ME4 if it were to happen.

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crazyrabbits wrote...

OP, your first mistake was assuming there are "10 endings".

The second was assuming there's anything to come back to in the ME universe after the ME3 ending. They literally torched the franchise.


Agreed. It would be intresting however to see how they try to fix these problems if they make ME4 post ME3.

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Arttis wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

The ending of ME3 negates the possibility of an ME4. There's just no way it can work without jumping a good 100,000 years into the future. and with jumps that huge, they may as well make a new franchise since there'd be nothing recognizable.

They can retcon a different ending the same way in DA2 leliana was alive and with the chantry.
They can do whatever the hell they want.

True, but retconning a character to be alive and retconning a character to be an **** that does exactly the opposite of what he should logically do to pursue his goals (Anders), the ME3 endings are another thing entirely.  ME3's ending is up there with the bastardization of Revan and the Jedi Exile in TOR.  It undermines the entire series.  Even worse since the ending contradicts things explicitly shown over the course of ME3 itself.

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Dunno about you guys, but I'd personally like to find out more about the First Contact War. A prequel would be fine in my book.

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AshenSugar wrote...

Dunno about you guys, but I'd personally like to find out more about the First Contact War. A prequel would be fine in my book.

If we get to play as Turians? I'm game.
See more of Saren? Even more game.

#114
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My wish for a Mass Effect game: No Reapers, Story and people outside of Shepards storyline, either before or during Shepards adventures, not AFTER the ME3 ending.

Why? Because i think the setting is great and it would be a shame to toss it away, like in continuing the mess (war, decisions, ending (not going into detail cause of spoilers)) that ME3 leaves behind.

I wouldn't mind to have adventures and missions in a smaller scale.
Don't need to save the whole universe to feel like a hero and i also wouldn't mind if they were more planetcentric...would also lead back to more cityhub-kinda gameplay.

#115
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To everyone who actually liked the ending: I'm sorry, but what? I, and many others, in no way expected a happy ending. I expected an ending that made sense. 

*WARNING, SPOILER ALERT. IF YOU READ ON, THAT IS YOUR FAULT*

Why would my ground crew be on the Normandy suddenly escaping with Joker to get out of the Sol system? Where is everyone else who I left back on the Normandy? Why do all of my teammates end up on some deserted planet with random vegetation? And if the Mass Relays are destroyed, how the hell can Shep get reunited with anyone (in my ending, I got to see her breathe... so, she's alive)? Tell me, what can be implied from that? That my teammates decided at the last minute to desert me? Good to know.

I expected Shep to come back from the war with a severe PTSD and a hint of indoctorination, but I also expected her to end up waking up in a rock-hard hospital bed, in a room that is dimly lit, the walls looking damaged, with her remaining teammates above her, smiling victoriously, saying, "we did it Shep"... or if they all died (I saw 4 of my teammates definitely survived in the end, though I don't know where the rest are), I expected to at least meet my love interest, Garrus, up in that little bar and have him say, "You did your best, it is up to the living to make do with what we have given them." I also expected that Shepard would at least think about her Love interest during her 'final' moments! If you romanced anyone other than Liara and Ash/Kaidan, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.


*END SPOILER ALERT*

I mean, hell, I understand that it is okay if Shepard dies in most cases, but shouldn't we be at least GIVEN the option to have a happier ending?
All the endings are grey and very similar to each other, too similar to
each other. They should've gone Final Fantasy X-2 with their endings
(was a crappy game/ sequel, but is a good example on the RIGHT way
to draw conclusions to games). There should be a horrible everyone dies
ending, then there should be a perfect ending, to satisfy the cheesy
ending lovers. Then there should be at least two grey endings that
should learn closer to good or bad. This way, everything would be in
balance. ME3's endings had no balance. There wasn't even a choice to
completely fail, unless you die... and then have to restart from your
last save. (that doesn't even count). And the happiest ending you can get? Well, if you want a spoiler, read above. I got the "perfect" ending. I finished every single side quest available to me. I maxed out my galactic readiness. I played ME1 and 2 and imported their saves into ME3. That "perfect" ending, seems more like a light grey option than a white option.

How can anyone be happy with these endings? There are so many strings that haven't been tied. And if anyone expected unicorns at all, they chose the wrong game series and/or never played the first two games. I don't know if it is just the emptiness that the last 10 minutes of this game has left me with, or if it is just my high expectations that are clouding my judgement, but these things that I pointed out, these are major flaws in the end that shouldn't have been there. I don't blame Bioware as a whole, I blame the writers and the people who allowed these endings to pass through.

~A very disappointed Bioware-fan

#116
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If they want to make another ME game and i hope they do there's nothing to stop them . They can make a new story post ME3 or a new story pre ME1. I really want more ME period.

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Dark_Caduceus wrote...

I think a re-release of Mass Effect 1 with Cryengine 3 and Mass Effect 3's combat system and RPG system would be amazing, just patch up the end so that the Reapers are stopped for a million years instead of a couple years.


I'd buy Mass Effect 1 on CryEngine 3. Like RIGHT NOW.

#118
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android654 wrote...

ME4? Who the f**k's going to buy that? The only thing worse than ending on a bad note is coming back for an encore when no one's applauding.


Are you kidding?

The general agreement here is that the majority of ME3 was good, just the ending was bad. We're talking 99% of the Mass Effect experiance was good. When people calm down they'll see their overall experiance was fun.

Like the Ewok battle in star wars, the ending of kotor, far cry 2, fallout vegas, and star wars unleashed (*shudder*) people will get over it and flock to ME4 if reviews are good or if it just LOOKS good.

People arn't stupid, they know game devs aren't perfect, and the majority of the ME experiance was FANTASTIC.

#119
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No me4 but I can easily see a mass effect mmo, but it's a bit early to think about that me3 ins't even done considering how much dlc we got for 2 I'm betting there are still 2 years worth of dlcl eft for bioware to make first.

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

what end did Shepard really have . I mean seriously if you played the game and listened to the utterly stupid and dumb crap at the end . what you did in the game is pointless and has no meaning .

I am sorry you feel that way...any ending you get and how you played the game...makes sense.  just play the game from the first to the last and you will see that the endings are good. 

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Starlight_Sanctuary wrote...

To everyone who actually liked the ending: I'm sorry, but what? I, and many others, in no way expected a happy ending. I expected an ending that made sense. 

*WARNING, SPOILER ALERT. IF YOU READ ON, THAT IS YOUR FAULT*

Why would my ground crew be on the Normandy suddenly escaping with Joker to get out of the Sol system? Where is everyone else who I left back on the Normandy? Why do all of my teammates end up on some deserted planet with random vegetation? And if the Mass Relays are destroyed, how the hell can Shep get reunited with anyone (in my ending, I got to see her breathe... so, she's alive)? Tell me, what can be implied from that? That my teammates decided at the last minute to desert me? Good to know.

I expected Shep to come back from the war with a severe PTSD and a hint of indoctorination, but I also expected her to end up waking up in a rock-hard hospital bed, in a room that is dimly lit, the walls looking damaged, with her remaining teammates above her, smiling victoriously, saying, "we did it Shep"... or if they all died (I saw 4 of my teammates definitely survived in the end, though I don't know where the rest are), I expected to at least meet my love interest, Garrus, up in that little bar and have him say, "You did your best, it is up to the living to make do with what we have given them." I also expected that Shepard would at least think about her Love interest during her 'final' moments! If you romanced anyone other than Liara and Ash/Kaidan, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.


*END SPOILER ALERT*

I mean, hell, I understand that it is okay if Shepard dies in most cases, but shouldn't we be at least GIVEN the option to have a happier ending?
All the endings are grey and very similar to each other, too similar to
each other. They should've gone Final Fantasy X-2 with their endings
(was a crappy game/ sequel, but is a good example on the RIGHT way
to draw conclusions to games). There should be a horrible everyone dies
ending, then there should be a perfect ending, to satisfy the cheesy
ending lovers. Then there should be at least two grey endings that
should learn closer to good or bad. This way, everything would be in
balance. ME3's endings had no balance. There wasn't even a choice to
completely fail, unless you die... and then have to restart from your
last save. (that doesn't even count). And the happiest ending you can get? Well, if you want a spoiler, read above. I got the "perfect" ending. I finished every single side quest available to me. I maxed out my galactic readiness. I played ME1 and 2 and imported their saves into ME3. That "perfect" ending, seems more like a light grey option than a white option.

How can anyone be happy with these endings? There are so many strings that haven't been tied. And if anyone expected unicorns at all, they chose the wrong game series and/or never played the first two games. I don't know if it is just the emptiness that the last 10 minutes of this game has left me with, or if it is just my high expectations that are clouding my judgement, but these things that I pointed out, these are major flaws in the end that shouldn't have been there. I don't blame Bioware as a whole, I blame the writers and the people who allowed these endings to pass through.

~A very disappointed Bioware-fan

in all three mass effect games, the game ended in a cliffhanger...questions still unanswered and more questions arise because of it...I believe it was done in broad strokes for you.  you fill those holes in with your own perspective.  I do not think the endings are bad if you put in the thought required to make it make sense.

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

The ending of ME3 negates the possibility of an ME4. There's just no way it can work without jumping a good 100,000 years into the future. and with jumps that huge, they may as well make a new franchise since there'd be nothing recognizable.


And his is what's going to happen. Eventually, hundreds (not thousands) of years in the future, one of the species is going to learn how to build their own Mass Relays. The end. 

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If ME4 is going to be a sequel there will be huge problems concerning the current endings as far as I see it...
All of my possible endings had some outcomes that would completely change the way a ME4 and every single aspect of it would work as far as i can think of it.
(except it is set far in the future - like another 50.000 years or so... and the only reference to the "Mass Effect Trilogy" would be in artifacts [like with the protheans] - which would also create a whole new set of problems)
If Bioware can make this work somehow... amazing. But it would be really hard I guess.

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Mystic_Angel wrote...

If ME4 is going to be a sequel there will be huge problems concerning the current endings as far as I see it...
All of my possible endings had some outcomes that would completely change the way a ME4 and every single aspect of it would work as far as i can think of it.
(except it is set far in the future - like another 50.000 years or so... and the only reference to the "Mass Effect Trilogy" would be in artifacts [like with the protheans] - which would also create a whole new set of problems)
If Bioware can make this work somehow... amazing. But it would be really hard I guess.


Where are you people getting these extreme jumps in time? In the ME universe 50,000 years is how long it took for the various species to evolve and conqure space travel. Now they're at a point where the have some understanding of this tech, they simply need to crack the code and BAMN.

We'll prob get a CANON ending, something people got over and now embrace with the Kotor series. Hell, we've already had that happen once with ME2 (one of the endings doesn't count as canon at all). One of the endings in ME3 totally allow for a quick "fix" to the issue.

Modifié par Wishpig, 12 mars 2012 - 11:43 .


#125
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I love how biodroids try to justify the endings in every way. It makes just as much sense as trying to argue against the polio vaccine.