True much has changed. I still don't understand how a blast of green energy turns everyone into a Synthetic/Organic hybrid. Does that mean you get all the benefits of a Snythetic but a body of an organic. Not sure anymore...Hawksblud wrote...
I'd say quite a bit of lore retcon and faulty science if they decide to move forward. :/
What happens if BW stands by the endings? How does the series move forward?
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:46
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:48
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GoblinSapper wrote...
JELLAQTP wrote...
Prequels.
I find your assertion plausible but unlikely. Analysis of the data suggests TIMESKIP in the fashion of TOR or KOTOR 2 to be far more likely.
True but how is anyone going to get around in the galaxy without the assistance of Mass Relays? SW has warp speed. Since all of the greatest minds are in the SOL system do they make a mini Mass Relay of their own design. Not as powerful but they can at least manufacture?
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:49
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I agree with most of the above but feel it necessary to point out KOTOR 2 was not a bioware game, and it showed.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:51
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actually, haven't they stated they intend to continue the series? only it'll be easier with Shepard out of the way, because it was too difficult to work with all of the choices that were made in previous games. I guess they're making a movie then.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:52
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They have said they plan on making more in the universe that ME3 was the end of Shepards arc but the destruction of the Mass Relays says otherwise what their intentions are.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:52
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Continuing Mass Effect without the Relays and Citadel is like Star Wars continuing without The Force. If they don't fix the endings then i have no interest in the series anymore.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:53
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It moves forward with a significantly decreased fan base. If the endings are not fixed many people, including myself, have stated they will leave the series behind, and leave bioware. As manyof the hardcore fans have also been fans for years, we'll also see how much Bioware really cares about us.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:55
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DarkSpider88 wrote...
I believe if they do an ME4, which I think EA might demand. They will set it in the future in a time where galaxy has rebuilt. Shepard will be nothing more than legend lost to history (Stargazer points this out). We will be a new protagonist on a different journey.
Only I will not be participating in this new alien universe.
Same why would i want to play a ME game without shepard and his/hers crew? i don't intend to waste my time with some lame new protag and his/hers garbage crew of wannabees.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:56
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The franchise would limp forward with the current ending.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 01:58
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I find it hard to imagine that I will buy anymore ME games if that is the case, and I am absolutely sure there will be more. From a business standpoint, it makes little sense that they wouldn't create more sellable content for such a successful franchise.
No idea what it will be though....
That said, I respect their decision either way as long as they make some form of response whether that be giving into community outrage or announcing they are sticking to their written ending.
No idea what it will be though....
That said, I respect their decision either way as long as they make some form of response whether that be giving into community outrage or announcing they are sticking to their written ending.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:00
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Prequels but I would have a hard time getting invested in the story knowing everything I do is for nothing.
It would be like... cool, so I solved that problem and laid the groundwork for the future Shepard story. Too bad it doesn't mean anything and galactic civilization is fracked regardless anyway.
It would be like... cool, so I solved that problem and laid the groundwork for the future Shepard story. Too bad it doesn't mean anything and galactic civilization is fracked regardless anyway.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:00
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If Bioware stands by their ending, I will never buy another Bioware/Mass Effect product again. My game discs will quickly be fixed with some birdshot.
I seriously though hope this doesn't happen. I feel awful as it is and to have Bioware further rub the wound with salt will only make things worse with the community.
I seriously though hope this doesn't happen. I feel awful as it is and to have Bioware further rub the wound with salt will only make things worse with the community.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:01
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First victim: Maxim, 2nd Victim: C&C (C&C4: Tiberium Twilight), 3rd and my most committed effort to the series: ME (MassEffect3).
.... I'm not even gonna play EA games anymore, not even Generals 2. I feel like I'm being played like a fool way too long. :S
.... I'm not even gonna play EA games anymore, not even Generals 2. I feel like I'm being played like a fool way too long. :S
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:02
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they can give me FREE mass effect prequels or sequels ...I will still bury them in the ground .... after that kind of stunt pulled in ME3 ending ... thanks for killing me than shepard
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:02
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The game should have ended right after Shepards and Andersons convo. Hell they could have started a new arc where you have to stop is Dark Energy business. Hopefully good news in the coming week.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:04
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I am going to say this.
Mass Effect was the best video game series I'd ever played, eclipsing my previous favorites easily. I really didn't have anything to complain about in terms of content that I couldn't overlook or let my suspension of disbelief take care of, and had a blast playing ME1 and ME2 multiple times, and ME3 was incredible aside from the dreams about the little child which seemed very out of place, but they were short so whatever I just moved on.
Then the I reached the last 5 minutes of the game. The little child was there in some sort of "higher power" form, gives some completely comprehensible reasoning behind the Reapers actions (that were supposedly incomprehensible), a reason Shepard can prove uncategorically untrue through the unification of the Geth and Quarrians and EDI's existence and integration into the crew/relationship with Joker. Then we get the ending from DeusEx 12 years ago (right down to the same colors used), with a "pick a door option", the galaxy's transportation infrastructure annihilated, our squad somehow teleported from the ruins of London to the Normandy running away from an explosion and crashing, and the bulk of the Galaxy's fighting forces stuck in Earth orbit, and nothing about any of our squadmates, friends, comrades, or the galaxy's responses and subsequent activities in the wake of the end of the Reaper attacks. I don't care if the ending is Grimdark or not, I might actually prefer Grimdark, but at least have it make sense and provide a sense of closure.
With this ending, even the "best" ending, my desire to see anything else in the game universe, at least anything that isn't directly altering that ending, has dropped to practically zero. Even if additional Mass Effect games/movies/etc are released, I just can't bring myself to care about them given the ending we have for Shepard's saga and the galaxy at large. Same reason I can't bring myself to replay ME1 and ME2 again right now, I know where it ends and I don't like where it ends.
Ultimately, unless the current endings are changed, further ME content will be irrelevant to me.
Mass Effect was the best video game series I'd ever played, eclipsing my previous favorites easily. I really didn't have anything to complain about in terms of content that I couldn't overlook or let my suspension of disbelief take care of, and had a blast playing ME1 and ME2 multiple times, and ME3 was incredible aside from the dreams about the little child which seemed very out of place, but they were short so whatever I just moved on.
Then the I reached the last 5 minutes of the game. The little child was there in some sort of "higher power" form, gives some completely comprehensible reasoning behind the Reapers actions (that were supposedly incomprehensible), a reason Shepard can prove uncategorically untrue through the unification of the Geth and Quarrians and EDI's existence and integration into the crew/relationship with Joker. Then we get the ending from DeusEx 12 years ago (right down to the same colors used), with a "pick a door option", the galaxy's transportation infrastructure annihilated, our squad somehow teleported from the ruins of London to the Normandy running away from an explosion and crashing, and the bulk of the Galaxy's fighting forces stuck in Earth orbit, and nothing about any of our squadmates, friends, comrades, or the galaxy's responses and subsequent activities in the wake of the end of the Reaper attacks. I don't care if the ending is Grimdark or not, I might actually prefer Grimdark, but at least have it make sense and provide a sense of closure.
With this ending, even the "best" ending, my desire to see anything else in the game universe, at least anything that isn't directly altering that ending, has dropped to practically zero. Even if additional Mass Effect games/movies/etc are released, I just can't bring myself to care about them given the ending we have for Shepard's saga and the galaxy at large. Same reason I can't bring myself to replay ME1 and ME2 again right now, I know where it ends and I don't like where it ends.
Ultimately, unless the current endings are changed, further ME content will be irrelevant to me.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:04
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Torch the current continuity and run; ME "4" or an MMO would take place long after the ending, sometime between 10 and 50,000 years later.
The galaxy would just be getting back on its feet with new relays. Doubt you'd have access to Earth -- that way the existing characters threads can continue to remain ambiguous and unresolved.
The galaxy would just be getting back on its feet with new relays. Doubt you'd have access to Earth -- that way the existing characters threads can continue to remain ambiguous and unresolved.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:05
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Mass Effect 4 will be Joker fighting dinosaurs with a stick on whatever planet he crashed on.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:06
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Right on the first two, wrong on the third. E-zero still exists.gmboy902 wrote...
No Mass Relays, no Citadel, no Mass Effect.
Any continuation of the Mass Effect series would revolve around the re-connection of the galaxy, likely around the construction of new Mass Relays.
The question of who builds them where, or if they should be built at all, would tie in with the post-Reaper developments of the species as set up in Shepard's trilogy. W.hether the Krogan have recovered without the genophage, or are a pitiful shadow of whatever is left. The difference between the Quarians interacting with the galaxy as opposed to the Geth, after having centur(y/ies) to re-settle Ranoch/build their singularity. Whether Humans are re-met with warm memories (Paragon Council) or fear and/or suspicion (Renegade Council, Control ending).
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:06
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either it will be prequels, or the rest of the series will be the various races moving forward to conquering the galaxy without the tech of the citadel and such. Both of which would not be ideal, as prequels rarely work well, and the second option would take some serious master storytelling to pull off without being stupid.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:06
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DarthSlim108 wrote...
Mass Effect 4 will be Joker fighting dinosaurs with a stick on whatever planet he crashed on.
Or helping Stargazer build the first ever rocket ship as a surprise present for child.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:08
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Lots of good thoughts on the matter. I don't see a MMO in development in the near future. They will probably make a few prequels involving the first contact war and TIM.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:08
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vigna wrote...
Obsidian did KOTOR II...not Bioware.Turkeysock wrote...
Well they loose a lot of diehard fans. I know folks who abandoned Bioware after KOTAR 2.
You're right, I don't know why I was thinking it's Bioware. But still doesn't change the point on the horrible endings driving away die-hard fans.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:10
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10,000 years in the future. Or Liara and Sheps kid...
Profile comments for details.
Profile comments for details.
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Posté 12 mars 2012 - 02:10
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My opinion on what happens if they stick to the ending?
The Yahg and Raloi will rise to power.
Neither civilization was touched by the reaper threat.
The Yahg will probably be the new main antagonists. They're as intelligent as Salarians, as powerful as krogan, and were secretly being uplifted by the Salarians as seen on Sur'kesh. They werent seen again. I believe BW has been foreshadowing the Yahg rise to power since LOTSB when you found out how capable just one of them is.
With galactic society now starting from scratch, now is the perfect time for
the yahg to advance. There is no more citadel-sponsored quarantine of their
homeworld. They're right at the brink of becoming space faring and a formidable
force right when the rest of the races are unable to stop them.
The Raloi, on the otherhand, are already space faring. As heard over the citadel news ingame, the Raloi hightailed it as soon as the reapers made the scene. They withdrew thier ambassadors and got the hell out of town and back to thier own system to save themselves. This cowardice is going to work in thier favor. With the rest of the galaxy at its knees, and thier homeworld untouched, theyre in the perfect situation to move forward.
I expect both of those races to have a major presence in ME4.
Doesnt mean i like the ending though.
The Yahg and Raloi will rise to power.
Neither civilization was touched by the reaper threat.
The Yahg will probably be the new main antagonists. They're as intelligent as Salarians, as powerful as krogan, and were secretly being uplifted by the Salarians as seen on Sur'kesh. They werent seen again. I believe BW has been foreshadowing the Yahg rise to power since LOTSB when you found out how capable just one of them is.
With galactic society now starting from scratch, now is the perfect time for
the yahg to advance. There is no more citadel-sponsored quarantine of their
homeworld. They're right at the brink of becoming space faring and a formidable
force right when the rest of the races are unable to stop them.
The Raloi, on the otherhand, are already space faring. As heard over the citadel news ingame, the Raloi hightailed it as soon as the reapers made the scene. They withdrew thier ambassadors and got the hell out of town and back to thier own system to save themselves. This cowardice is going to work in thier favor. With the rest of the galaxy at its knees, and thier homeworld untouched, theyre in the perfect situation to move forward.
I expect both of those races to have a major presence in ME4.
Doesnt mean i like the ending though.
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