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[jzzabelle]

M-76 REVENANT
This gun is TERRIBLE. Horrible spread, damage, and impairs your movement while shooting. The only class which can theoretically take advantage of this weapon is the Soldier (more specifically the Turian soldier). However, due to the extreme suckage of the accuracy and damage (even with accuracy mods and the Marksman bonus spec'd into accuracy) this gun is hard to control and has a terrible DPS.

Add that to the fact that the marksman bonus REQUIRES you to keep shooting to keep up DPS, meaning that you expose yourself to enemy fire at the same time. Just a terrible gun to complement a terrible class overall. Solution? Boost the accuracy or remove the movement impairment. Or just remove this gun. Its terrible.

GETH PULSE RIFLE
Another high capacity, fast firing monstrosity. However, this gun has amazing accuracy for the rate of fire it has and is considerably an upgrade to the Revenant. This is everything the revenant dreams to be, but the DPS factor is still disgusting on this gun. Less damange than the revenant but a lot easier to handle make it only marginally better.

These two guns above suffer from the fact that you have to KEEP SHOOTING in order to keep up your DPS, but doing so exposes yourself to enemy fire. I cannot tell you how many times I've been downed from Geth Primes, Nemesis and ravagers, due to the fact that I need to keep shooting to take advantage of these guns. The emphasis on cover in this game make these guns obselete compared to other choices.

M-77 Paladin
Too few clips and spare ammo make this almost an inferior version of the Carnifex despite the damage increase. Ultra-rare status means that you will find this gun stuck at level 1 or 2 for a LONG time.

Scorpion
Low capacity, high weight, ultra-rare status, and laughable damage makes this gun more of a toy than anything. Definitely needs some tweaking.

EDIT: After feedback on trying this gun while hosting a server, I seemed to be getting much better results. There are definitely some lag issues where the bullet will seem to hit but have no damage, which is why I thought DPS-wise this gun is lacking. There is no hit-marker when you attach the bullets, so there is no way telling whether or not you hit your target. This gun has ups and downs being projectile-based, and is for sure a fun weapon.


Feel free to post any of your opinions as well, would love to hear other people's input 

Modifié par jzzabelle, 15 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[Jestina]

Yes, the revenant. It's supposed to be a machine gun...but a bb gun could do more damage than it does.

Most of the unlock weapons are junk. Like the arc pistol. I felt that I would have been better off taking a stick into battle than the arc pistol when I tested it out.

[Bon3zz1001]

M37-Falcon seeing as it doesn't work 50% of the time unless you're the host of the game.

The Geth Pulse Rifle is probably the worst assault rifle in the game. Even with Marksman + Rate of Fire upgrades it still takes forever to kill a normal enemy with it.

[Sabresandiego]

Scorpion was a great weapon in the demo, but the problem with ultra rare weapons is that they stay at relatively low levels for way too long. The paladin has the same issue. As far as the revenant, I find that all automatic weapons pretty much suck except for the avenger because of its low weight.

[eldrjth]

Graal is a terrible weapon imo. the geth shotgun trumps it very handedly. If the projectiles traveled as fast as the geth shotgun then it would be on par with it (Graal would be slightly better because of superior accuracy and less projectile spread. itll end up being a semi sniper rifle like the geth shotgun already is), but the ridiculous delay from firing to hitting an enemy renders it useless. 

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I dont agree that the falcon is bad but it should fire every time you press the trigger which it doesnt. it would make it even more lethal if it did.

as for the geth pulse rifle, its laughable. it fires so quickly that youll think if you have your crosshairs on your target for more than 2s they drop dead. but no, it does almost NO damage whatsoever.

Modifié par eldrjth, 12 mars 2012 - 02:08 .

[Zyrusticae]

(double post)

Modifié par Zyrusticae, 12 mars 2012 - 02:09 .

[Zyrusticae]

Phaeston
Poor accuracy and embarrassingly (if not downright insultingly) low damage make this weapon a poor choice for... anything at all. Oh, and it weighs a lot more than it should. Exactly what is the point of having a high rate of fire and a large magazine size if the sustained DPS STILL ends up lower than almost any other gun available in the same slot?

Shuriken
233 DPS. LOL.

Locust
228 DPS. DOUBLE LOL.

I mean, seriously, is this a joke? Fix it, please, Bioware. If it doesn't do at least 400 DPS it is a complete waste of a slot, especially since every pistol (except one!) manages to do at least that much at level I. As for said pistol...

Eagle
261 DPS. Seriously, just one look at the DPS value tells you everything you need to know. Inexcusable.

[Miths]

Zyrusticae, do you have a list of the DPS output of the various weapons? I'd love to see it as I still feel I'm relying too much on my own inaccurate judgement in which weapons are effective or not.

Edit: Actually nevermind, I just realized I already have a link to the Google Docs spreadsheet someone made. Here it is if anyone else missed it: 
https://docs.google....many=true#gid=0 

Modifié par Miths, 12 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[Intax]

I'm not sure about your assessment of the Scorpion. It could possibly use bigger reserves but I disagree on the damage. One mag can wipe out a huge chunk of clumped up mobs. Its also one of the few weapons that can actually kill guardians well with out sniping the peep hole. If you've only used it while joining others' games I suggest hosting one and give it another try (especially on the smaller maps where the mobs are clumped up).

Like the Falcon though it suffers from the fact that half the time it doesn't work unless you're hosting the game.

I definitely agree with the Revenant and the Pulse Rifle though.

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Bon3zz1001 wrote...

M37-Falcon seeing as it doesn't work 50% of the time unless you're the host of the game.

The Geth Pulse Rifle is probably the worst assault rifle in the game. Even with Marksman + Rate of Fire upgrades it still takes forever to kill a normal enemy with it.

If you rapid-fire the trigger with the Falcon a lot of it's shots will just vanish. Maybe it's a bug, maybe it's intended -- but if you purposely hold back and don't fire another shot until the previous one hits, each one will land. It's also a great way to buy time to keep staggering enemies.

[Morning808]

I just stick with my Mattock. But I have noticed that my Falcon doesn't always hit enemies that I hit directly.

[Sabresandiego]

The falcon and scorpion are two of the best weapons in the game, but only if you are the host, because if you are not hosting half of the shots are blanks.

[TexasToast712]

Revenant is godly now. Geth Rifle is super accurate and destroys when paired with Marksmen. Paladin just needs faster crosshair reset so it can have an advantage over the Carnifex without a scope.

I hate scopes on pistols. Laser sight mod would be 10x better.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 12 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[BraveLToaster]

Revenant does frankly stupid amounts of damage at very respectable range with Turian Soldier.

[Elecbender]

Some advice:

Aiming in cover is more accurate than aiming out of it. Seems obvious but at least try it out. The Vindicator had huge upward recoil out of cover but was surprisingly accurate in cover. Accurate enough to snipe through the mail slots of Guardians.

[Jarys]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Revenant is godly now. Geth Rifle is super accurate and destroys when paired with Marksmen. Paladin just needs faster crosshair reset so it can have an advantage over the Carnifex without a scope.

I hate scopes on pistols. Laser sight mod would be 10x better.

Uhh, what? I picked up a rev and it takes a full clip to take down a geth rocket trooper on silver difficulty. 

[Raxxman]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Revenant is godly now. Geth Rifle is super accurate and destroys when paired with Marksmen. Paladin just needs faster crosshair reset so it can have an advantage over the Carnifex without a scope.

I hate scopes on pistols. Laser sight mod would be 10x better.

yup, laserdot would be better.

Adding weapons, the incisor really needs a buff. I mean it's a sniper rifle where you can't really land consistant headshots, and it doesn't even had good damage to compensate for this.

Graal needs a bit of a buff.

[A Wild Snorlax]

Phaeston and the geth pulse rifle are a total joke, as are pretty much all the machine pistols.

[Caeltih]

Jestina wrote...



Most of the unlock weapons are junk. Like the arc pistol. I felt that I would have been better off taking a stick into battle than the arc pistol when I tested it out.

Yea, it seems like a fun weapon but not worth taking.

As said most unlock guns are meh, only a few are worth taking over the standard (im looking at you sniper rifles...)

[Riceygringo]

Bought around 15-20 Spectre packs, the only really OMG! weapon so far was the Black Widow (interestingly, came out the first Spectre pack I bought). Besides that, Geth Shotgun is ok, especially accurate and damaging if you get Shotgun Choke V and Barrel V on it. The rest of it are mostly class unlocks, got some decent ones, quarian/salarian infiltrator. All the soldiers, and Asari Vanguard.

[TexasToast712]

Jarys wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Revenant is godly now. Geth Rifle is super accurate and destroys when paired with Marksmen. Paladin just needs faster crosshair reset so it can have an advantage over the Carnifex without a scope.

I hate scopes on pistols. Laser sight mod would be 10x better.

Uhh, what? I picked up a rev and it takes a full clip to take down a geth rocket trooper on silver difficulty. 

Then you are doing it wrong.

[Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd]

Locust is horrible as well. I use the Revenant on my Soldier on Hardcore difficulty and its fantastic, IMO.

Modifié par Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd, 12 mars 2012 - 05:26 .

[Nigawatts]

The Revenant burns through anything at medium to close range. You can't use it like a freaking sniper rifle, get up on those bastards and let it rip!

[The Spamming Troll]

i just use the revenant 100% of the time. im all like w/e ill take the biggset gun you got.

the huricanes recoil made me laugh out loud the first time i used it. i thought i hit my analogue stick my veiw when up so quickly, but nope, just the retardo recoil on the weapon.

im a big fan of the eagle because its the only full auto pistol. the SMGs would be nice, but those are entirely laughable. its just too bad i only need the revenant.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 12 mars 2012 - 05:32 .

[DryR]

Geth pulse is designed for debuff ammo mods and hard mode teamwork.