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[Valo_Soren]

The endings are just fine, try to look at their deeper meanings, try to find a reason to accept them, stop being a bunch of people who think they are entitled to everything.

[Larry_McBruce]

Lexagg wrote...

No, no official insults yet, just some a few minor unofficial ones.

Well, the endings were insulting enough and they're pretty much official!

Bioware execs are going to bullsh*t us anyway same way they did for DA2.

[Sterenn]

Gowienczyk wrote...

16,000 out of est. 3 million is not a majority. I was disappointed and am scratching my head over the ending but I'm not pretending the majority is us.

Need to contextualise those numbers. 3,5millions of ME3 copy were sold. In Europe it's only since 8th. The casual gamers still don't finish it. Imagine how the protestation will grow when they do.

[chris fenton]

Just so everyone is aware, the ending was written by one person who never spoke to the other writers about the ending. He forced them to do what he wanted, IRC.

The other writers were mad at him.

[JeanLuc Awesome]

Gowienczyk wrote...

Nineteen wrote...

John Never Dies wrote...

 https://twitter.com/...059657552310272

"Certain members of the community..." More like the majority of the community...

16,000 out of est. 3 million is not a majority. I was disappointed and am scratching my head over the ending but I'm not pretending the majority is us.

3 million is the sales or games shipped, I'm pretty sure the voting wasn't 16,000 out of 3 million.

[Count Viceroy]

Gowienczyk wrote...

16,000 out of est. 3 million is not a majority. I was disappointed and am scratching my head over the ending but I'm not pretending the majority is us.

Perhaps not, but there's more people than the ones posting here that are unhappy with it, I know a few of them my self.

I'm not naive enough to expect a DLC for this though. The ending we got is the ending Bioware wanted to run with. It's not like someone high up the chain missed this and some writer just snuck this past the big shots. This is the ending they ran with, deliberatly. The fact that it is full of plotholes, totally disregards everything they've done up to that point and basically invalidates the whole premise of the series, choice and consequence just shows how disconnected they are with their fan base.

Dragon age 2 could have been a one time fluke, but now I'm begining to wonder. And before anyones starts. I'm not claiming that Me3 is as bad as DA2 was, it isn't. But both show a clear disregard/understanding of their fanbase and both look like last minute rush jobs with little thought put into them. And with Me3 we can understand why, as the leaked script probably forced them to invent this crap instead of what was supposed to go in originally. I'd rather have had a spoiled ending that made sense than this last minute patch job though.

[Sssra]

Extremely dissatisfied here too. The ending... was a kick in the quads, to quote Wrex.

It abandons the canon, it does not give control (albeit giving the illusion to have it, wich is worse).

It's like they thought "yeah, let's be profound, let's be hipsters"... and missing the target altogheter.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution choices at the end were way better, and reflected every possible moral choice by the player.

Mass Effect 3 endings... are one worse than the other, and neither is "good".

A wonderful trilogy. Wonderful. But the ending only succeded in making me appreciate Dragon Age 2 more.

[Harorrd]

they currently reject the negative feedback and amplify the positive ones at their twitter

[GuiltySource]

chris fenton wrote...

Just so everyone is aware, the ending was written by one person who never spoke to the other writers about the ending. He forced them to do what he wanted, IRC.

The other writers were mad at him.

Thats no excuse. Lines had to be recorded around this writing, the levels built around it. Someone in Bioware should have said, "dude you can do better, now go away and write a better ending."

[Count Viceroy]

Harorrd wrote...

they currently reject the negative feedback and amplify the positive ones at their twitter

That's how marketing works. :happy:

[Valk72]

Rykoth wrote...
Sorry but your attitude sucks. The game is not a turd. The game is not crap. The ending is medicore at the worst, and a medicore ending to an otherwise epic game doesn't sit well with folks clearly. Many have said that this ending on any other game wouldn't be a problem.

ME3 is an amazing game, that just happens to have a head-scratching last five minutes. Five minutes does not turn a whole game into crap unless you are really that narrow minded.

And YOUR attitude doesn't suck perhaps?!

Modifié par Valk72, 12 mars 2012 - 12:43 .

[Valk72]

Valo_Soren wrote...

The endings are just fine, try to look at their deeper meanings, try to find a reason to accept them, stop being a bunch of people who think they are entitled to everything.

Stop Insult us.

[Maou]

After two years waiting i feel depressed after playing mass effect 3.

[Sywen]

JeanLuc Awesome wrote...

Gowienczyk wrote...

Nineteen wrote...

John Never Dies wrote...

 https://twitter.com/...059657552310272

"Certain members of the community..." More like the majority of the community...

16,000 out of est. 3 million is not a majority. I was disappointed and am scratching my head over the ending but I'm not pretending the majority is us.

3 million is the sales or games shipped, I'm pretty sure the voting wasn't 16,000 out of 3 million.

Thats games shipped.  Only sold number we have is 800k something of preorders.

[Sundance31us]

Valk72 wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...
The endings are just fine, try to look at their deeper meanings, try to find a reason to accept them, stop being a bunch of people who think they are entitled to everything.

Stop Insult us.

There have been insults from both sides.

Again, we're all here because of how we feel about the game and this forum would not be here if BioWare didn't care.

[Gowienczyk]

who think they are entitled to everything.

He isn't wrong, by some definition I think. A lot of the BSN has been like this since Dragon Age, a lot of greifing and entitlement is certainly there. I do agree that after all of the time we put into Mass Effect the reader does deserve an ending that doesn't insult his/her intelligence. But there is a lot of ME ME ME attitude from what I have seen.

The outcry of BIOWARE FIX THIS OR I BOYCOTT U is evident of this.

Only sold number we have is 800k something of preorders.

Fair enough, but I still think we are the extremely vocal minority here and that's how forum communities (and online communities) will always be viewed, I still think it's a staggering number though to your point's own defense. But bluntly stating we are the majority is still vastly incorrect.

Modifié par Gowienczyk, 12 mars 2012 - 12:51 .

[Dot.Shadow]

I sure hope they don't take it as a personal insult that people don't like the endings. They're obviously very good at making games. That's kinda why people are upset as well - They're better than this, and we know it.

[thebatmanreborn]

zenoxis wrote...

Based on the twitters of michael gamble and mac walters they said they are very satisfied with the endings and appear to be genuinely confused as to why people don't like them.

yeah.....

Hopefully they will stop being so confused when I don't buy another Bioware title...or any dlc for ME3, just like I skipped out on dlc for DA2.  No problem for me.  I love stories.  If you can't write them, I don't have to invest time into them.  

[jimmyw404]

"We are not ignoring our fans. We are reading each comment, and we value your opinions ."

The smiley face means, "Haha just kidding, we have your money now."

[Gowienczyk]

jimmyw404 wrote...

"We are not ignoring our fans. We are reading each comment, and we value your opinions ."

The smiley face means, "Haha just kidding, we have your money now."

The smiley seems to symbolize condescension to me.

[darkshadow136]

Harorrd wrote...

they currently reject the negative feedback and amplify the positive ones at their twitter

I knew I always hated Twitter for a reason.


if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

[GracefulChicken]

That "" is a way of saying "I know anything I say right now will cause a ****storm. Sorry " They cant say anything right now. Anything they say will be blown up too much. Give the dust a week or two to settle. We'll get something.

Even if we are the vocal minority (which I highly doubt), we'll get a response about the endings. They know whats going on, you can be sure of it. Even a vocal minority affects sales and reception, that's basic knowledge.

[Sywen]

Gowienczyk wrote...

Only sold number we have is 800k something of preorders.

Fair enough, but I still think we are the extremely vocal minority here and that's how forum communities (and online communities) will always be viewed, I still think it's a staggering number though to your point's own defense. But bluntly stating we are the majority is still vastly incorrect.

In customer service they tell you for every complaint, there's 100 silent about theirs.  

[lajeokki]

I don't think the ppl who write here to protest the ending are the only ones feeling that way. I mean I've been playing more or less 20years now and I've never posted on any game forums before. Most likely there are tons of ppl feeling bad but still not writing it here. But if you compare the amount of ppl complaining about the ending here on forum to those who praise it I'd say complainer are the majority.

[DarkSpider88]

Valo_Soren wrote...

The endings are just fine, try to look at their deeper meanings, try to find a reason to accept them, stop being a bunch of people who think they are entitled to everything.

I apologize but would you mind explaining to me the deeper meaning? What I got from it was after two and most of third third game, the protagonist refused to bow dow down to the Reaper's logic. However in the end the protagonist decides to go against all his earlier actions and accept what this VI is telling him. There is no questioning him, no rebutting his logic, just acceptance at what he is being told.

Apparently I am missing the deeper meaning. No hostility here, if you can explain why the Reaper's logic finally makes sense in the end I will gladly listen. That in the end everyone must compromise?

Please respond via PM I don't want to sidetrack this thread.

Modifié par DarkSpider88, 12 mars 2012 - 01:06 .