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[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Here is the thing. The more they ignore the "vocal minority" the more that vocal minority will increase. They won't be ignoring us forever.

[heretica]

dmalicious wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Thoragoros wrote...

One of the employees, possibly a low rank Dev has tweeted a couple of insults regarding people who don't like the end.

Beyond that, I don't think so.

Source? If true I won't be purchasing Generals 2.

https://twitter.com/...#!/manveerheir 

"
There is a movement to change the ending of Mass Effect 3. I love it. I support it. 

I want this for everything. I'm starting a letter writing campaign to have Gatbsy end with a steamy sex scene. 

Max Payne should end with a surprise party and his wife and kid are there. Someone needs to write the petition. "

The tweet comes from a dude at penny arcande, not the dev himself. 

[Count Viceroy]

Sywen wrote...

In customer service they tell you for every complaint, there's 100 silent about theirs.  

Indeed, simply dismissing our opinions as being the small vocal minority is foolish.

[suprhomre]

They are on vacation.

[Xenite]

If this was the TRUE ending, then it was a complete and massive failure. The final game in the series, you create and epic story to wrap up the saga and then phone in the ending with identical endings and plot holes (party members on the Normandy who should be dead) And they throw in a quick "Shep Lives!" clip to top it all off?

It's sad that I am hoping they milk me for more money for DLC with a proper ending.

[Autolychus]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

The endings are just fine, try to look at their deeper meanings, try to find a reason to accept them, stop being a bunch of people who think they are entitled to everything.

I apologize but would you mind explaining to me the deeper meaning? What I got from it was after two and most of third third game, the protagonist refused to bow dow down to the Reaper's logic. However in the end the protagonist decides to go against all his earlier actions and accept what this VI is telling him. There is no questioning him, no rebutting his logic, just acceptance at what he is being told.

Apparently I am missing the deeper meaning. No hostility here, if you can explain why the Reaper's logic finally makes sense in the end I will gladly listen. That in the end everyone must compromise?

Please respond via PM I don't want to sidetrack this thread.

I think his original post was meant as a sarcastic summary of Bioware's response so far.  Re-read the quote as if it were meant to come from Bioware's mouth.

[Gowienczyk]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Sywen wrote...

In customer service they tell you for every complaint, there's 100 silent about theirs.  

Indeed, simply dismissing our opinions as being the small vocal minority is foolish.

True enough, most we can do is wait and see, I guess.

[Flyprdu]

There are polls here on BSN with sample sizes in the tens of thousands. Statistically speaking, for a population of 1,000,000.. 10,000 is a significantly accurate sample group.

And there's an 80%+ "Terrible ending" sentiment.

All because BSN discontents seem like a small group, they're not. I've never posted on BSN, until today. I came here for this reason alone. There are more behind me that are coming. They haven't finished it yet. And when they do, BioWare will have to account and atone for this.

Modifié par Flyprdu, 12 mars 2012 - 01:16 .

[Troubleshooter11]

Flyprdu wrote...

There are polls here on BSN with sample sizes in the tens of thousands. Statistically speaking, for a population of 1,000,000.. 10,000 is a significantly accurate sample group.

And there's an 80%+ "Terrible ending" sentiment. All because BSN discontents seem like a small group, they're not. I never posted until today. I came here for this reason alone. There are more behind me that are coming. They haven't finished it yet. And when they do, BioWare will have to account and atone for this.

Same here, the unsatisfactory endings have made me come post here for the first time.

I sadly am pessimistic about the chance of Bioware taking action and re-writing the ending.

Personally it would seem silly to change the Mass Effect universe so drastically. Even though Shepard's story ends, they could easily select 1 ending that leaves the existing ME universe as "canon"  and use that for future ME games/novels.

[Gowienczyk]

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

Flyprdu wrote...

There are polls here on BSN with sample sizes in the tens of thousands. Statistically speaking, for a population of 1,000,000.. 10,000 is a significantly accurate sample group.

And there's an 80%+ "Terrible ending" sentiment. All because BSN discontents seem like a small group, they're not. I never posted until today. I came here for this reason alone. There are more behind me that are coming. They haven't finished it yet. And when they do, BioWare will have to account and atone for this.

Same here, the unsatisfactory endings have made me come post here for the first time.

I sadly am pessimistic about the chance of Bioware taking action and re-writing the ending.

Personally it would seem silly to change the Mass Effect universe so drastically. Even though Shepard's story ends, they could easily select 1 ending that leaves the existing ME universe as "canon"  and use that for future ME games/novels.

Before saturday, I had not posted on this site in over a year; so I'm in a similar camp, so I understand.

[loungeshep]

dmalicious wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Thoragoros wrote...

One of the employees, possibly a low rank Dev has tweeted a couple of insults regarding people who don't like the end.

Beyond that, I don't think so.

Source? If true I won't be purchasing Generals 2.

https://twitter.com/...#!/manveerheir 

"
There is a movement to change the ending of Mass Effect 3. I love it. I support it. 

I want this for everything. I'm starting a letter writing campaign to have Gatbsy end with a steamy sex scene. 

Max Payne should end with a surprise party and his wife and kid are there. Someone needs to write the petition. "

That's actually tweets from Penny Arcade retweeted by a dev.

[jcmccorm]

Valo_Soren wrote...
The endings are just fine, try to look at their deeper meanings, try to find a reason to accept them, stop being a bunch of people who think they are entitled to everything.

I would have loved to have explored the 3 endings in more detail, but they forget the entire DIALOG TREE that allowed for it! Three options were quickly presented (but not explored in an great detail) by a strange being I know nothing about. I know more about Asari mating habits than I do the very 3 choices I have that will transform the entire galaxy.

The minimalism may please you. However, the shallow presentation is not consistent with the rest of the game. And Shepard rolling over and accepting everything at face value, no push-back, and limited explanation is inconsistent with how most people seem to have played the character. He had no option to do otherwise.

There certainly is a time and a place for your message. However, this particular incident isn't it. This isn't the player's fault. Bioware/EA clearly dropped the ball, right at the end-zone.

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

They already have our money. I'm not especially hopeful. It would require Bioware swallowing a lot of pride here. They are really proud of this game and it's just easier for them in the short run to stand by their current ending.

[silencemayday]

Gowienczyk wrote...

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

Flyprdu wrote...

There are polls here on BSN with sample sizes in the tens of thousands. Statistically speaking, for a population of 1,000,000.. 10,000 is a significantly accurate sample group.

And there's an 80%+ "Terrible ending" sentiment. All because BSN discontents seem like a small group, they're not. I never posted until today. I came here for this reason alone. There are more behind me that are coming. They haven't finished it yet. And when they do, BioWare will have to account and atone for this.

Same here, the unsatisfactory endings have made me come post here for the first time.

I sadly am pessimistic about the chance of Bioware taking action and re-writing the ending.

Personally it would seem silly to change the Mass Effect universe so drastically. Even though Shepard's story ends, they could easily select 1 ending that leaves the existing ME universe as "canon"  and use that for future ME games/novels.

Before saturday, I had not posted on this site in over a year; so I'm in a similar camp, so I understand.

count me in on that as well. 

[Ranicus56]

I was pretty much a lurker before the ending. I think i asked 2 things sense 2009...

[jcmccorm]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Here is the thing. The more they ignore the "vocal minority" the more that vocal minority will increase. They won't be ignoring us forever.

You can fudge around the numbers to make anything a vocal minority. Reality: disapproval of the ending (the quality and/or the content) is not a minority position.

I absolutely was going to purchase all the DLC for ME3 plus some additional merchandise. Yes. Additional. I was pretty sold on the Mass Effect universe before playing ME3, and I was totally 100% hooked mid-way playing through. Now that I've reached the end, I'm not going to do any of that. It isn't a protest. I'm simply no longer invested. I have no interest in continuing a game universe that has been poisoned.

They raised everything to an incredible height. They had a masterpiece that I totally wanted to buy into. (Literally and metaphorically.) They shattered it at the very end. Crazy! If not from a story or game development perspective, then from a financial perspective. They've severed my emotional connection to the franchise.

[katamuro]

I have to say that we are not minority anymore look how many people here imagine that after all this is not the only site, people post on other gaming sites
I believe that there are not hundreds of thousands of people that are dissatisfied just tens of thousands are actually voicing it.

[AlCord]

Hm would be cool if an American pal could make a summarize thread of the official comments.
At this stage of posting speed the comments cannot be chased :/

[Daverid]

What we NEED is for all 15k, 20, 30k?? However many people this ends up reaching to boycott any future DLC unless it's got to do with either changing the Endings OR it turns out the Hallucination Theory is correct and DLC concludes the game differently.

If this reaches 30,000 Unhappy people .. And 30,000 Don't pay $10 for the first DLC released (Apart from "From Ashes" because alot of people bought that without knowing what was coming in the ending) .. That's ~$300,000 Down Bioware will be from their first DLC ... I'd assume that would be somewhat of a Big Hit for them. Unless the game literally made THAT much money or it takes SO LITTLE to produce a DLC that they are still making money from it .. Then that would be frustrating.

[sanadawarrior]

Sywen wrote...

JeanLuc Awesome wrote...

Gowienczyk wrote...

Nineteen wrote...

John Never Dies wrote...

 https://twitter.com/...059657552310272

"Certain members of the community..." More like the majority of the community...

16,000 out of est. 3 million is not a majority. I was disappointed and am scratching my head over the ending but I'm not pretending the majority is us.

3 million is the sales or games shipped, I'm pretty sure the voting wasn't 16,000 out of 3 million.

Thats games shipped.  Only sold number we have is 800k something of preorders.

Game sold 890,000 in the first 24 hours in the US alone. - Joystiq

[Asch Lavigne]

They're going to pull The Sopranos thing and say "Too bad, that's the ending, deal with it."

[Pedro Costa]

chris fenton wrote...

Just so everyone is aware, the ending was written by one person who never spoke to the other writers about the ending. He forced them to do what he wanted, IRC.

The other writers were mad at him.

Source?

[RDSFirebane]

Daverid wrote...

What we NEED is for all 15k, 20, 30k??
However many people this ends up reaching to boycott any future DLC
unless it's got to do with either changing the Endings OR it turns out
the Hallucination Theory is correct and DLC concludes the game
differently.

If this reaches 30,000 Unhappy people .. And 30,000
Don't pay $10 for the first DLC released (Apart from "From Ashes"
because alot of people bought that without knowing what was coming in
the ending) .. That's ~$300,000 Down Bioware will be from their first
DLC ... I'd assume that would be somewhat of a Big Hit for them. Unless
the game literally made THAT much money or it takes SO LITTLE to produce
a DLC that they are still making money from it .. Then that would be
frustrating.

^ pretty much what he said if you want to be noticed talk with your money.

Modifié par RDSFirebane, 12 mars 2012 - 02:01 .

[darkshadow136]

suprhomre wrote...

They are on vacation.

Yeah they did the same thing when People voiced their negativity about DA2. They are basicly waiting for us to blow out our anger. Then after they craft a response that basicly takes no responsability themeselves for quality control of the endings, and PR yet again that future DLC will be worth keeping their game. They will most likely go silent again for a time, hoping this problem will calm down and go away. Unfortunatly I'm sure many like myself will never buy anything again from Bioware unless they fix the endings of ME3 at the very least.


if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

[Hokochu]

dmalicious wrote...

Goose1004 wrote...

I saw this posted on the Mass Effect twitter

https://twitter.com/...046897028317186

I admit, I'd take it more seriously if not for the smiley face.

I don't know, I think the smiley helps. It indicates that they are not mad at us. >.>