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[MadCat221]

Friendly Hobo wrote...

I picked red magic. EDI came out of the Normandy. Sorry guys, space magic aint perfect!

Errhh... care to 'splain that?  I'm presuming the end choices are color-coded somehow?

[CDRSkyShepard]

THEE_DEATHMASTER wrote...

In ME2, wasn't destroying the heretics a renegade option and rewriting the paragon? So why was it reversed in this game with the 'best' ending? This is what I don't understand.

You're not re-writing the Reapers, though...you're becoming one with them, controlling them like Cerberus wanted to do. IDK, being in control of a huge force of space machines seems like a pretty renegade decision to me. Lol.

[LadyofRivendell]

JeffZero wrote...

It's supposed to destroy all Reaper-based tech and, well, the geth accidentally'd the entire Reaper tech. Plus I think it's specifically stated anyway but I could be wrong.

I've heard reports that EDI can show up at the Normandy crash site anyway though, which would be... well, good. If confounding.

EDI appeared in my crash scene after I destroyed the Reapers. I thought it was odd, but was too busy bawling my eyes out to think much else of it. 
In theory, shouldn't Shepard be dead after that, too? With the implants and all.

[MadCat221]

EDI's go the Reaper Hax Kit, so she's part Reaper. As people here have stated, EDIBot can walk out of Normandy after the crash-landing.

I'm starting to think more and more that The Godkid Is A Lie and all the Relay Network-destroying pulse did was broadcast "DROP DEAD" to all reapers everywhere.

Next question... Did the husks drop dead too? Are Indoctrinees free?

Modifié par MadCat221, 12 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[darthnick427]

oh well. I'm still picking that ending every time. Shepard lives in that ending so it's already better than the others

[Friendly Hobo]

In theory, shouldn't Shepard be dead after that, too? With the implants and all.

That bothers me to no end. How is Shepard part synthetic? Every mention of "Synthetics" in this game refers to syntetic life. Are my cybernetic implats really AIs? I don't think so. Shepard is about as syntetic as a guy with a prosthetic leg.

[JeffZero]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

It's supposed to destroy all Reaper-based tech and, well, the geth accidentally'd the entire Reaper tech. Plus I think it's specifically stated anyway but I could be wrong.

I've heard reports that EDI can show up at the Normandy crash site anyway though, which would be... well, good. If confounding.

EDI appeared in my crash scene after I destroyed the Reapers. I thought it was odd, but was too busy bawling my eyes out to think much else of it. 
In theory, shouldn't Shepard be dead after that, too? With the implants and all.

In theory.

Maybe the Catalyst was just trollin'.

[Unit-Alpha]

darthnick427 wrote...

oh well. I'm still picking that ending every time. Shepard lives in that ending so it's already better than the others

Yeah, and would you follow the Reaper-prefered ending (green), Illusive Man (blue) or Anderson (red)?

I know the answer to that, personally.

[NPH11]

Taleroth wrote...

Ziguehart wrote...

But the star child said Shepard is half synthetic, so destroying synthetic kill half Shepard as well?

He's part synthetic, not half. It's reasonable that Shepard may survive on his organic parts.

Really? His body looked pretty much decimated during the opeing in ME2. Though they did shoot the magic lifemaking stuff in him.

And again, how does the magic wave determine what is synthetic life? The Star Child mentions that our children will make new synthetic life, so presumably we could probably repair the destroyed synthetic life unless it literally exploded once the wave hit it.

[darthnick427]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

oh well. I'm still picking that ending every time. Shepard lives in that ending so it's already better than the others

Yeah, and would you follow the Reaper-prefered ending (green), Illusive Man (blue) or Anderson (red)?

I know the answer to that, personally.

red. Destroy. Shepard lives and I can head canon the rest. 

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

Perhaps the color codings were indeed trolls.

[Greed1914]

Here is the real question regarding Destroy,  The Catalyst says that the technology that will be destroyed includes the Geth and Shepard's implants.  Now, if those implants are what brought Shepard back to life, why is destroy the only way for Shep to live?  It's the only option that doesn't show Shep being vaporized, but it seems like it's just as likely to kill him. 

[Friendly Hobo]

MadCat221 wrote...

Friendly Hobo wrote...

I picked red magic. EDI came out of the Normandy. Sorry guys, space magic aint perfect!

Errhh... care to 'splain that?  I'm presuming the end choices are color-coded somehow?

In the end of the game, you get basically the same damn cutscene. The only major difference based on your choice is the color of the beam that destroys/controls/synthesizez(?) the reapers. Magic.

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

The child is lying? It is indoctrination?

[Hunter_Wolf]

dkear1 wrote...

I don't understand how this wave distinguishes between reapers and geth. It is true that geth have reaper software but that's it. So is this a virus that is being spread? Too much arm waving and space magic with no explanation!!!!

It doesn't. You're over thinking it and it's why a lot of people are so angry with this pursuit. The Catalyst says that the Reapers would be destroyed as well as all Synthetic life, including the Geth. The it goes to explain some psuedo reason why  Synthetics are the bane of organic existence, following the trend "The created will always war with their creators." 

It's bogus to me which means Legion sacrificed for nothing. Argueably the most powerful scene in the entire game.

Legion: "Tali, remember what we said that made the creators attack us? 'Does this unit have a soul.'"
Tali later goes, "The answer to your question Legion, is yes." 


These were two species killing each other and finally accepted one another out of respect. Only for the ending to go all Chuck Testa on it.

THEE_DEATHMASTER wrote...

The child is lying? It is indoctrination?

 

No, this would imply Harbinger and Sovereign were lying since they were created by the Catalyst as it's tools.

Modifié par Hunter_Wolf, 12 mars 2012 - 04:59 .

[zerebul]

EDI = AI from Luna base in ME1 + Reaper tech. EDI = pwned

Geth = New and improved with Reaper tech thanks to Legion. Geth = pwned

[fearan1]

Supposedly, but if your readiness rating was high enough, you somehow survived.

And since Shep can survive somehow, with the lack of any epilogue whatsoever, it's only presumed that EDI and the Geth are dead. They could be alive... maybe.

This is the trouble there is no closure it would be odd to spend so much time saving the geth to then be forced to kill them and EDI but you do spend hours getting the citadel redy and we see how that turned out.

[Hunter_Wolf]

dkear1 wrote...

Besides joker I think whoever comes out of your ship is who you took on the final mission. Was for me anyway.

No, because Garrus and Javik were with me and only Ashley came out.

[Hunter_Wolf]

fearan1 wrote...


Supposedly, but if your readiness rating was high enough, you somehow survived.

And since Shep can survive somehow, with the lack of any epilogue whatsoever, it's only presumed that EDI and the Geth are dead. They could be alive... maybe.

This is the trouble there is no closure it would be odd to spend so much time saving the geth to then be forced to kill them and EDI but you do spend hours getting the citadel redy and we see how that turned out.

This is true. Though it could easily say that it's because Shepard is "part synthetic" not complete. EDI and Geth are full Synthetic. So it could just be a miracle. The Catalyst only says, "Even you are part Synthetic." Implying the risk is great enough to affect even Shepard.

[Sashimi_taco]

Why did they make it impossible to get a happen ending? WHHYYYYYY!?!?!

[Mr. Gogeta34]

I gather that it's essentially a galaxy-wide EMP. It takes them offline, but doesn't seem to literally destroy them... Another example would be a galactic solar storm. They could all likely be repaired and brought back online.

[Spyre2001]

Jerryk72 wrote...
Which is odd because Javik was on my final assault team..

On my final mission I took EDI and Laria. Then when I watched the Synthesis ending both of them walked out of the ship along with Joker.

It seems Joker always walks out of the ship but the others I think depend in part on which choice you made and what love interest you had. On the Destroy ending my love interest was the Comm officer and she walked out of the ship. Viewing lots of the vidz I've seen several different people walk out at the end.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

dkear1 wrote...

Besides joker I think whoever comes out of your ship is who you took on the final mission. Was for me anyway.

No, because Garrus and Javik were with me and only Ashley came out.

I think it's your LI, Joker, and Javik that exit the Normandy.  Javik comes out later (not when Ash and Joker do).

That part made no sense, because in my run, Ash was with me.

[Kloborgg711]

"It destroys all synthetics."
"Wait.. so.. it destroys electronics?"
"No, synthetics."
"So.. it targets specific things to disable?
"Yes, synthetics."
"So, it specifically targets certain characteristics of Reapers?"
"No, synthetics."
"Wait, how does it distinguish between a toaster and a Geth, but not between a Geth and a Reaper?"
THE CRUCIBLE WAS DESTROYED. TRY AGAIN.

[Nobrandminda]

MadCat221 wrote...

So... how exactly does "Destroy Reapers" translate over to the Geth and EDI?  I haven't reache the end yet... Does it explicitly state that they bite the dust too, or are people just jumping to conclusions?

As far as I can tell, "destroy reapers" just sends out a galaxy-wide signal via the relay network (destroying them in the process) that tells all reapers to drop dead where they are.

How does it determine the difference between a VI and an AI?  Or a simple dumb terminal?

He says that it will destroy "all synthetic life" as well as "most of your technology" and he specifically mentions the geth.  EDI is just implied, but "all synthetic life" doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room.