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"Destroy" ending = Geth and EDI dead?


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#51
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Or it's Harbinger trying to mind control you and choosing the destroy ending is shooting the infected Reaper code in your own brain thus freeing you from indoctrination.

My head canon is awesome.

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dkear1 wrote...

Bahh....In my headcannoned version EDI was just putting on a fresh coat of makeup...err face paint.


Or preparing a new dinner course for our own culinary pleasure.

swtor much ? ;p

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

dkear1 wrote...

Besides joker I think whoever comes out of your ship is who you took on the final mission. Was for me anyway.


No, because Garrus and Javik were with me and only Ashley came out.


I think it's your LI, Joker, and Javik that exit the Normandy.  Javik comes out later (not when Ash and Joker do).

That part made no sense, because in my run, Ash was with me.

IF this isn't a bug, perhaps it's actually supports the theory that Shep is hallucinating and back on Earth, unconscious?

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honestly, when the child told me the reapers are his that told me he is a reaper and he lost all credibility to me, and when you survive it shows that when he says that all synthetics are destroyed and insinuates that shepard being part synthetic will die as well that he is straight up full of crap.

and i agree, the fact that the normandy runs and the two assualt team members are aboard supports the fact that Shepard is dreaming this all and that scene is simply his hope that the Normandy and crew will survive.

Modifié par burgudy, 12 mars 2012 - 05:14 .


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Asiant wrote...

The child is a lie indeed, he feeds you fake info persuading you to make bad decisions...but if you see past the lie AKA destroy ending, then you live


Keep dreaming. One of the writers just retweeted this from Penny Arcade.



"There is a movement to change the ending of Mass Effect 3. I love it. I support it."

"I want this for everything. I'm starting a letter writing campaign to have Gatbsy end with a steamy sex scene."

"Max Payne should end with a surprise party and his wife and kid are there. Someone needs to write the petition."

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burgudy wrote...

honestly, when the child told me the reapers are his that told me he is a reaper and he lost all credibility to me, and when you survive it shows that when he says that all synthetics are destroyed and insinuates that shepard being part synthetic will die as well that he is straight up full of crap.

and i agree, the fact that the normandy runs and the two assualt team members are aboard supports the fact that Shepard is dreaming this all and that scene is simply his hope that the Normandy and crew will survive.


Or... they just made a really sloppy ending.

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Archereon wrote...

Asiant wrote...

The child is a lie indeed, he feeds you fake info persuading you to make bad decisions...but if you see past the lie AKA destroy ending, then you live


Keep dreaming. One of the writers just retweeted this from Penny Arcade.



"There is a movement to change the ending of Mass Effect 3. I love it. I support it."

"I want this for everything. I'm starting a letter writing campaign to have Gatbsy end with a steamy sex scene."

"Max Payne should end with a surprise party and his wife and kid are there. Someone needs to write the petition."






Wow really? I mean I respect his point but he's representing a company, taking it personal. Also, in terms of art, the ending was a fingerpainting.

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 I personally think the starchild was lying about that part so Shepard would be hesitant to destroy the Reapers and the starchild. In my mind the Geth and EDI are fine.

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burgudy wrote...

honestly, when the child told me the reapers are his that told me he is a reaper and he lost all credibility to me, and when you survive it shows that when he says that all synthetics are destroyed and insinuates that shepard being part synthetic will die as well that he is straight up full of crap.

and i agree, the fact that the normandy runs and the two assualt team members are aboard supports the fact that Shepard is dreaming this all and that scene is simply his hope that the Normandy and crew will survive.

I think that perhaps the majority of people who are too busy being pissed off, are too busy NOT thinking about this or other possibilities. Writing it off as lazy implies that Bioware did what? Made a 98% awesome game and then...brush it all off? NO, they wanted us to THINK ABOUT THE ENDINGS. And this is why the majority are pissed, the majority doesn't think, they simply watch and react.

Hell if the reaper child said that Shep would die from that choice and then it shows him breath, simply illustrates that it was a lie and an indoctrination attempt.

TexasToast712 wrote...

 I personally think the starchild
was lying about that part so Shepard would be hesitant to destroy the
Reapers and the starchild. In my mind the Geth and EDI are fine.

This!

Modifié par THEE_DEATHMASTER, 12 mars 2012 - 05:26 .


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Archereon wrote...

Asiant wrote...

The child is a lie indeed, he feeds you fake info persuading you to make bad decisions...but if you see past the lie AKA destroy ending, then you live


Keep dreaming. One of the writers just retweeted this from Penny Arcade.



"There is a movement to change the ending of Mass Effect 3. I love it. I support it."

"I want this for everything. I'm starting a letter writing campaign to have Gatbsy end with a steamy sex scene."

"Max Payne should end with a surprise party and his wife and kid are there. Someone needs to write the petition."





So.... they want endings changed to things that don't fit in with the established universes.


Yep, sounds like a Bioware quote to me.

#61
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^ It's actually penny arcade. The dev just retweeted it.

Please note that this isn't a press release, just a random tweet. I'd certainly expect a greater degree of professionalism from a developer though. Not to mention maturity.

Modifié par Archereon, 12 mars 2012 - 05:53 .


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Personally, I don't want the ending to change... I want it to be fleshed out... as it leaves many unanswered questions and contradictions. And there is literally no epilogue...

//stays on the lookout for Epilogue DLC (hopefully free for all registered players of the game)

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I know a number of people at Bioware probably feel a more than a little let down and betrayed at the vitrol into what has been their baby for almost as long as the X-Box 360 has been around.

However, I'm going to point out that Duke Nukem didn't have it. Nor did a lot of other hyped, bad games. People aren't being this vocal because they hate the game, or lost faith in what Bioware can do. They are vocal because it was really damn good up until that point, and they know the people that have crafted so many rich, rewarding adventures IS capable of better.

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My take is that the destroy ending destroys anything that uses the Reaper tech or Mass Effect type technology (so Eezo?) in it. Hence the Geth that incorporated that Tech into them are killed, and EDI...well that could go without saying.

I'm starting to think that whatever companion you brought with you on the final mission is one of those that exits the Normandy...

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GreyLord wrote...
I'm starting to think that whatever companion you brought with you on the final mission is one of those that exits the Normandy...


Which makes no sense whatsoever.

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If I remember correctly the god child says "you could destroy all synthetics if you wished" and I'm assuming that this isnt related to the destroy ending but after that shep could destroy them if s/he wished to.

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but why would EDI die ? she was not synthetic, that dr: eve core sexy robot body was just an avatar, Edi was and has always been in the AI core though the sick bay linked to that robot body.
i mean did something backfire to the AI core during red magic ?

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I agree with magnus82. EDI should not die if you choose to destroy all synthetic lifes. She should, at least, "return back" as usual AI of the Normandy.

PS: I don't know if this is an old or recent topic, I found it via internet and the timestamps are shown as "%1$s", I don't know why.

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AlanC9

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Bad language localization on the timestamps, maybe?

And of course EDI's synthetic. She isn't organic.

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While I tend to believe the implication that EDI is dead in this choice, I imagine "reviving" her and even bringing back the whole memory and personality would not be too hard. It's fiction anyway, if a dead Shepard can be revived fully, why can't an AI be revived?

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A lot of people really didn't like Project Lazarus you know.

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Deathsaurer wrote...

A lot of people really didn't like Project Lazarus you know.


I don't quite find it viable myself, which is why I point it out, they've already done something much worse in the story, how bad it can be just to fully revive an AI in our own headcanon? 

Modifié par Shuidizi, 13 décembre 2013 - 01:55 .


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If you find it silly do you really want to encourage Bioware to do more stuff like it? I mean it'd be great if they could simply be rebuilt and all, ignoring the unpleasant implication this would mean the Reapers could too, but I'm not sure this is the way you want the franchise to go.

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Deathsaurer wrote...

If you find it silly do you really want to encourage Bioware to do more stuff like it? I mean it'd be great if they could simply be rebuilt and all, ignoring the unpleasant implication this would mean the Reapers could too, but I'm not sure this is the way you want the franchise to go.


When I first played ME2, I was thinking to myself (I knew Shepard could potentially die in ME3 already), if she can live through that in this story, I can basically make up anything in my mind for a happy ending.

I guess to me the narrative of this entire series has become rather convenient and unserious since that point. In other words the franchise has been to that level and direction already. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, considering it's just a video game and it should allow some freedom in the narrative for players to make up their own happy endings. It would be very bad and totally irk me if I treat the plot very seriously. (But I honestly don't, for the sake of full enjoyment)

And if we consider things seriously, there is NO way Shepard could have survived at all in Destroy ending, she's already close death and was exploded in her face... 

Modifié par Shuidizi, 13 décembre 2013 - 02:16 .


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Project Lazarus would have been much more believable if Shepard's body had been recovered in orbit around the planet, before reentry. The idea that there would be anything left after planetfall, though... that was pretty special.