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[rorako]

This is what I posted on the video:

As much as the indoctrination ending would make sense...this is the END of Shepard's story. Having him be indoctrinated and then his story ends just seems like a giant "GAME OVER" screen to me.

Course, EA could just release DLC, or a new Mass Effect series. In the end, if this is true, this becomes a money play, and instead of getting an ending to an awesome trilogy, we get a teaser for a new game.

I miss the days when $60 got you a full game. Beginning, Middle, and end. Like KOTOR.

[GOODKyle]

GBGriffin wrote...


I have it on good authority that my sister's third ex-boyfriend went to school with the niece of the guy who lives next to the girl who cuts the hair of Mac Walter's neighbor, and he confirms this as well.

(This "inside source" stuff is meaningless and just says "exactly" what we've been saying. Believe an official, unambiguous response from the BioWare devs only imo)

lol true. I'm not believing it but I'm also not not believing it o.O

Modifié par GOODKyle, 12 mars 2012 - 09:39 .

[STAG IRONHIDE]

r36956 wrote...

STAG IRONHIDE wrote...
Getting 5k resources is incredibly easy and is nothing compared to all the choices you have to make up to that point that are just thrown out the window.

Well, I made all right hero choices in ME1+ME2+ME3 (all alive and happy, quarians and geth in piece, etc.), made all missions, literally ALL of them and as a result I got 3.5K effective readiness. Then I went multiplayer to get 100%.
So, I'd really love to confirm if everyone could get 5K+ without multiplayer or iOS game.

Anyway, even though it all could be just a wishful thinking I hope it's not just a dealine issue like in KotOR 2 where the end was badly screwed because of deadline. I still remember how nice was "Lair of Shadow Broker" which meant Liara was the right choice for my Shep and I hope we will get something big for ME3 as well.

Huh... that's odd! I didn't even have both the Geth and Quarian and I got it absolutely no problem without MP....

[Slashout]

balance5050 wrote...
The entire game is about SELF PRESERVATION, the kid is not going to give Shep the choice to destroy him, hes making him choose his own fate. To control is the same thought prcess that is in the reapers head, to synthesize is to comine your flesh with reaper fully.

Everthing after your choice is a cheap placeholder video till DLC. and everything after your choice is what shepard is envisioning.

My point is that this was an indoctrined dream.
If you choose blue or green, you are indoctrined, game over for you. And if you choose red you escape the indoctrination but obviously you didn't destroy the reapers, they wouldn't REALLY give you that choice, they just wanted to push you toward listening to them (blue/green) while letting you believe you had a choice (red).

You wake up on earth where the dream started, when you were attacked by Harbringer. You can hear metal in the background, either a reaper or structures being damaged. If you were on the citadel, all you'd hear would be explosions, that is if you didn't die at the first explosions.

Perhaps Shepard will at least finish the fight with harbringer but I doubt the war will be over. So that part of the fight might come up in another DLC later on, where you pick up after escaping indoctrination.

As much as I really want a new set of endings, I don't see this part being invalidated completly. It will at least be part of what comes up next.


But I'm more and more convinced that in the end, this is where Shepard's story ends, and ME4 starts. With the relays of course (I believe they were destroyed in the dream and Shepard didn't yet go up in the citadel).

Modifié par Slashout, 12 mars 2012 - 09:57 .

[Soilworker77]

Is there anybody here who remembers what the little kid asks the old man and what the old man answers after the end of the credits?
That is a little hint that Shepard's adventure is not over yet, don't you agree?

[GOODKyle]

Soilworker77 wrote...

Is there anybody here who remembers what the little kid asks the old man and what the old man answers after the end of the credits?
That is a little hint that Shepard's adventure is not over yet, don't you agree?

Yea...the old bastard says "It's late but okay...one...more...story..."

[GOODKyle]

STAG IRONHIDE wrote...



Huh... that's odd! I didn't even have both the Geth and Quarian and I got it absolutely no problem without MP....

I'm guessing certain decisions and dialogue offer more war assets than others?

[Darkelefantos1]

But in all seriousness, this can't have been real, can it? He was hit by Frieza's Death Beam which obliterates starships, Mako's and gunships, and all he has are a concussion and a broken set of armor? Seriously? It doesn't work. Especially the part where he, without resting first, almost dead, limps to the Conduit, killing 3 Husks + 1 Marauder in the process, only to arrive after Anderson who went in after Shepard. It's all confusing.

Elderly fellow, tell us thy final tale!

[Soilworker77]

GOODKyle wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

Is there anybody here who remembers what the little kid asks the old man and what the old man answers after the end of the credits?
That is a little hint that Shepard's adventure is not over yet, don't you agree?

Yea...the old bastard says "It's late but okay...one...more...story..."

Indeed he does and you do know that old bastard is Buzz Aldrin, right? x)

[RacingManiac]

Darkelefantos1 wrote...

But in all seriousness, this can't have been real, can it? He was hit by Frieza's Death Beam which obliterates starships, Mako's and gunships, and all he has are a concussion and a broken set of armor? Seriously? It doesn't work. Especially the part where he, without resting first, almost dead, limps to the Conduit, killing 3 Husks + 1 Marauder in the process, only to arrive after Anderson who went in after Shepard. It's all confusing.

Elderly fellow, tell us thy final tale!

Badassfully, Shepard is a badass....

[Saint Op]

just a thought but could the stargazer also be "fake" or not as it appears...
Looking at it again it don't say what they are its just shadows...could they be a different species from a new cycle. In this case stories of Shepard are spread to make them believe the reapers are a old legend that was destroyed due to our cycle comming close to winning...
Then if we get a expansion or something that part changes to ships flying in the sky and such...

[smah]

So there's been some speculation about the whole 1M1 thing, and I'm really intrigued about that.

I don't know how to post pics, but if you watch this



at about 10 seconds you can see the 1m1 again, and again, it's reversed. Notice that' it's on the LEFT side, the side of the control option with the supposedly Paragon and TIM option. At 4:08 roughly, we see the 1m1 again, but this time, it's the not mirrored. Notice that it's on the RIGHT side with the supposedly Renegade and Anderson option.

I'm totally digging the indoctrination theory even though I doubt Bioware actually went that route. Nonetheless, it's pretty interesting.

[Leafs43]

smah wrote...

So there's been some speculation about the whole 1M1 thing, and I'm really intrigued about that.

I don't know how to post pics, but if you watch this



at about 10 seconds you can see the 1m1 again, and again, it's reversed. Notice that' it's on the LEFT side, the side of the control option with the supposedly Paragon and TIM option. At 4:08 roughly, we see the 1m1 again, but this time, it's the not mirrored. Notice that it's on the RIGHT side with the supposedly Renegade and Anderson option.

I'm totally digging the indoctrination theory even though I doubt Bioware actually went that route. Nonetheless, it's pretty interesting.

Why is 1M1 up there in the first place?

That catalyst said no organic has ever been there.

[Candidate 88766]

Leafs43 wrote...

smah wrote...

So there's been some speculation about the whole 1M1 thing, and I'm really intrigued about that.

I don't know how to post pics, but if you watch this



at about 10 seconds you can see the 1m1 again, and again, it's reversed. Notice that' it's on the LEFT side, the side of the control option with the supposedly Paragon and TIM option. At 4:08 roughly, we see the 1m1 again, but this time, it's the not mirrored. Notice that it's on the RIGHT side with the supposedly Renegade and Anderson option.

I'm totally digging the indoctrination theory even though I doubt Bioware actually went that route. Nonetheless, it's pretty interesting.

Why is 1M1 up there in the first place?

That catalyst said no organic has ever been there.

Because Shepard is standing on the Crucible, which was built using Alliance - and other species' - materials. 

[toolfan9284]

@OP

You have given me a shred of hope...This is all just part of the plan. The emotional roller coaster continues...

[bsisko]

TremulantOne wrote...

 Here's the problem with this whole theory. If in fact this was a clever plot twist in which the end is either a hallucination from a half dead Sheperd or an indoctrination by TIM or the Reapers doesn't matter.

If BioWare actually went so far as to end the game with a fake ending only to later release the REAL ending as DLC the community at large will go ballistic. If that is their intent then they willingly released a game to end a large trilogy without the end. 

Imagine the end of Return of the Jedi ended with Luke being possibly killed by the Emperor and then the movie just ending. Now imagine 3 months later Lucas comes out and says "It wasn't the end! Go see the real 10 minute ending this summer for only 19.99!" Not the perfect metaphor but you can see my point.

No matter what Bioware does at this point they've absolutely lost major credibility with even their most ardent fans.

I can say unequivocally that after the crapfest that was DA:2 post playing the magnificent DA:O, and now the crappy endings of ME3 coupled with the money grubbing DLC fests and toys that give you multiplayer characters etc etc .....

I will never be buying a preorder or day one release from Bioware ever again.

Let's not even get into SW:TOR.

I just hope BioWare has a plan and the BEST PR GUY IN THE UNIVERSE.
 

If they do make you pay for an ending it wouldn't be the first game to do it. I remember a Prince of Persia game that sold the last boss fight/ending as dlc. Fallout 3 situation extended or slightly reconed the sacrifice at the end of the game but didn't change the context.

[Fingertrip]

The FACTS are there, I don't see why this is even being discussed. Now I'm all excited to actually wrap the trilogy with a satisifying ending.

[STAG IRONHIDE]

smah wrote...

So there's been some speculation about the whole 1M1 thing, and I'm really intrigued about that.

I don't know how to post pics, but if you watch this



at about 10 seconds you can see the 1m1 again, and again, it's reversed. Notice that' it's on the LEFT side, the side of the control option with the supposedly Paragon and TIM option. At 4:08 roughly, we see the 1m1 again, but this time, it's the not mirrored. Notice that it's on the RIGHT side with the supposedly Renegade and Anderson option.

I'm totally digging the indoctrination theory even though I doubt Bioware actually went that route. Nonetheless, it's pretty interesting.

Yeah and if not they can always just read this thread and run with it.

[eternalYouth304]

Darkelefantos1 wrote...

But in all seriousness, this can't have been real, can it? He was hit by Frieza's Death Beam which obliterates starships, Mako's and gunships, and all he has are a concussion and a broken set of armor? Seriously? It doesn't work. Especially the part where he, without resting first, almost dead, limps to the Conduit, killing 3 Husks + 1 Marauder in the process, only to arrive after Anderson who went in after Shepard. It's all confusing.

Elderly fellow, tell us thy final tale!

you're assuming that the beam hit him.... but go back and watch it again. 

[ChuckNorris18]

what is 1m1?

[GOODKyle]

ChuckNorris18 wrote...

what is 1m1?

Well if it is going to be incorporated into my theory...perhaps it is Shepard's mind or the Reapers' doing to warn or confuse him?

[Capeo]

Wow. There's some serious straw clutching going on in here.

[GOODKyle]

Capeo wrote...

Wow. There's some serious straw clutching going on in here.

Either that or Bioware strawcluched the ending we all know. 

[eternalYouth304]

Capeo wrote...

Wow. There's some serious straw clutching going on in here.

so what?  it's a video game.

[Saint Op]

@toolfan
I think either way it has enough to it that even if this is all we get it can be debated for a long time...I am fine with the end as imperfect as it is but 99% of the game is OMG awesome so more ME is more ME to me...