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[Zeratul20]

MedhiaNox wrote...

Do not be fearful. We come in peace to bring to you many great advances to your otherwise drab - violent - oppressive culture.

Signed,
That Gay Guy

I kind of resent the idea that being heterosexual automatically means that "my"  culture is drab, violent and oppressive.

Can't we all just... Get along?

[Russalka]

Wouldn't it be more logical for us to reproduce like plants or cells if sexual intercoirse weren't meant just for pleasure as well?

[Volus Warlord]

Russalka wrote...

I agree that the status of a minority is abused, but to say tha each and every member of a minoritymdoes that is as irrational as saying "I hate heterosexual people."

If you don't like what Kawa and his bunch are saying, criticize them rather than sympathizing for them.  Your sympathy can easily be "misconceived" as you condoning his words.

Just a thought.

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 12 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[tonyng9]

I think the real problem is that they want to recycle dialogue on both paths of the tree (gay/straight, also with male/female) that you go down. So if you intend to play a straight character, you will find that your character will say some strange things that doesn't fit. Also, sometimes it seems like your only choice is to be gay or to be an **** with the paragon/renegade response. Dragon Age 2 made it a bit easier with the icons.

[Guldhun2]

nevar00 wrote...

Seriously?  Decades of slavery and oppresion and the most they get out of it is a month named after their skin color (ironically enough the shortest month of the year too lol)?  And this is a reason to complain?


...Really?

They? Who's they?


Ps. Did you know that during the middle ages millions of 'white' people were in slavery? But that's not political correct, so we'll glance over that fact.

Modifié par Guldhun2, 12 mars 2012 - 02:17 .

[Volus Warlord]

Russalka wrote...

Wouldn't it be more logical for us to reproduce like plants or cells if sexual intercoirse weren't meant just for pleasure as well?

Yes and no. Plants and cells do not have to raise their young.

[RayDequina]

Volus Warlord wrote...

RayDequina wrote...

"Homosexual" behavior in the animal kingdom, more natural than you think, blah blah blah blah.

Look, I'm not here to indict your views. You're entitled to them, I'm entitled to mine, hooray. Nor do I want to have an internet confrontation in which we both whip out our ePeens and measure to see whose is bigger. I'm just saying that within the context of a FICTIONAL UNIVERSE in which humans aren't the only sapient creatures, it makes sense that a huge paradigmatic shift COULD occur with regard to things like the purpose of romance.

So now you've gone from logic to rationalization. 

K! Have fun. 

You're right about everything, and this means your views don't merit scrutiny.

Congrats, you've won the Internet.

[Adzcriz]

Zeratul20 wrote...

MedhiaNox wrote...

Do not be fearful. We come in peace to bring to you many great advances to your otherwise drab - violent - oppressive culture.

Signed,
That Gay Guy

I kind of resent the idea that being heterosexual automatically means that "my"  culture is drab, violent and oppressive.

Can't we all just... Get along?

Gay peeps want to get along, we dont want fights or wars, just the chance of being treated equally, no special stuff, to not be looked upon as a dirty disgrace. We dont want a fight, but to our great disappointment, quite a bit fromt he Hetero culture is determined to fight us (kinda reminds me of the Shepard paragon speech at the last rannoch mission) To use generalisations is unfair and i seldom do so, but its a sour fact that several hetero cultures are violent and oppressive to woman and gays, to the point of persecution, capture, torture and execution for being what we are.

[StabGuy]

Great thread.

Bioware have become politically correct vanguards, so don't expect this to get any better.

[Volus Warlord]

RayDequina wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

So now you've gone from logic to rationalization. 

K! Have fun. 

You're right about everything, and this means your views don't merit scrutiny.

Congrats, you've won the Internet.

AWW YEAH! This Internet will look good on my mantlepiece. Thank you, thank you!

[ncknck]

Bovolt wrote...

The game takes place in the future. Clearly the human race has grown to accept homosexuals by that time. Unlike the OP here....

No it didnt. Even Kaidan is ashamed to speak out the word lesbian. Hesitating to speak out a "perfectly fine behavior"? I dont think so. Let alone thinking about gay. Thats pathetic, and now normal people have to endure the sight. And not everyone is liking dude/dude buttsecks.

I was saving the pic for better threads, but this will do too.

[Abirn]

StabGuy wrote...

Great thread.

Bioware have become politically correct vanguards, so don't expect this to get any better.

Being politically correct even if its too far, is far far better than pandering to the rednecks and soccer moms watching fox "news"

[laststarfighter]

It's the future man.

[Serenity84]

alanp9 wrote...

batlin wrote...

Women by and large aren't attracted to male/male relationships. Not like men are attracted to female/female.

Source? I'd be interested in reading the sociological study where you picked up this info, since it doesn't reflect what I've seen and heard in life at all.

Yeah. The vast majority of male/male slash fanfic is written by straight women. And there seems to be a lot of it. There are also plenty of them who love hanging around with gay men

[Russalka]

It is shyness, not shame.

[Volus Warlord]

Abirn wrote...

StabGuy wrote...

Great thread.

Bioware have become politically correct vanguards, so don't expect this to get any better.

Being politically correct even if its too far, is far far better than pandering to the rednecks and soccer moms watching fox "news"

If you're the majority, it's not pandering, it's Democracy. LOL!

Btw, Fox News is a great place to invest. It's not going anywhere. 

[Volus Warlord]

Serenity84 wrote...

alanp9 wrote...

batlin wrote...

Women by and large aren't attracted to male/male relationships. Not like men are attracted to female/female.

Source? I'd be interested in reading the sociological study where you picked up this info, since it doesn't reflect what I've seen and heard in life at all.

Yeah. The vast majority of male/male slash fanfic is written by straight women. And there seems to be a lot of it. There are also plenty of them who love hanging around with gay men

Well women love gay men. Lol. Everyone knows that. 

[Gespenst]

Russalka wrote...

It is shyness, not shame.

It's confusion. He'd not sure if sex with an asari is gay.

[MedhiaNox]

@Zeratul20: Negative remarks hurt your feelings?

Well - here's another one. Science has made you obsolete - we can breed without straight sex now. Thanks for stopping by though.

And in fact - you're clogging the planet with our race. At 7 billion plus humans - you're capacity as a "baby maker" is becoming increasingly superfluous. Just remember - your future child is pollution at this point.

In truth Zeratul20 - I was only joking (about the earlier post - and in this one). This whole thread - and many of the pro/anti gay threads - are ridiculous. Though - I will say that certain people on these boards constantly say "gays" should have "thicker skins" - I'd suggest that to you my friend. Not just about this - but in general.

[Zeratul20]

Adzcriz wrote...

Zeratul20 wrote...

MedhiaNox wrote...

Do not be fearful. We come in peace to bring to you many great advances to your otherwise drab - violent - oppressive culture.

Signed,
That Gay Guy

I kind of resent the idea that being heterosexual automatically means that "my"  culture is drab, violent and oppressive.

Can't we all just... Get along?

Gay peeps want to get along, we dont want fights or wars, just the chance of being treated equally, no special stuff, to not be looked upon as a dirty disgrace. We dont want a fight, but to our great disappointment, quite a bit fromt he Hetero culture is determined to fight us (kinda reminds me of the Shepard paragon speech at the last rannoch mission) To use generalisations is unfair and i seldom do so, but its a sour fact that several hetero cultures are violent and oppressive to woman and gays, to the point of persecution, capture, torture and execution for being what we are.

Yet this does not have to be the case. With the exception of the problems we're facing in Brussels (i.e.: gaybashing), I do believe that some cultures (like "my" culture, if I'm even entitled to describe it as my own) are doing quite well. Sure, there are problems. But we're working on it. A lot of people are actively trying to make the world a more welcoming, more accepting place. The inclusion of same sex romances in a bioware game is a nice example of that.

I agree with you that there are some instances in which sexism, hate speech, etc. are still openly visible in our society, as is xenophobia, etc. It takes an active approach (namely sensibilisation, education, active debate etc.) to counter this, as much as possible. But generalisations on both sides can only harm this cause, as they counter-act sensibilisation. So what I'm trying to say is this: I don't agree with the OP. But I don't think his opinions should be taken as the "standard heterosexual opinion" either. I most certainly do not want people to think that all heterosexuals agree with the OP.

[Abirn]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Abirn wrote...

StabGuy wrote...

Great thread.

Bioware have become politically correct vanguards, so don't expect this to get any better.

Being politically correct even if its too far, is far far better than pandering to the rednecks and soccer moms watching fox "news"

If you're the majority, it's not pandering, it's Democracy. LOL!

Btw, Fox News is a great place to invest. It's not going anywhere. 

Its pandering when you are targeting an audience that has a known history of inbreeding and another group who have no problem with horrible violence and genocide but god forbid someone sees a boobie.  Neither of these groups contribute anything to society and fox "news" contributes to the problem of idiocy in America.

[Volus Warlord]

MedhiaNox wrote...
And in fact - you're clogging the planet with our race. At 7 billion plus humans - you're capacity as a "baby maker" is becoming increasingly superfluous. Just remember - your future child is pollution at this point.

Blatant contempt for life, and then you run around shouting things like "homophobe" and wonder why I don't buy it. 

[android654]

It's so hateful in here...

[Zeratul20]

MedhiaNox wrote...

@Zeratul20: Negative remarks hurt your feelings?

Well - here's another one. Science has made you obsolete - we can breed without straight sex now. Thanks for stopping by though.

And in fact - you're clogging the planet with our race. At 7 billion plus humans - you're capacity as a "baby maker" is becoming increasingly superfluous. Just remember - your future child is pollution at this point.

In truth Zeratul20 - I was only joking (about the earlier post - and in this one). This whole thread - and many of the pro/anti gay threads - are ridiculous. Though - I will say that certain people on these boards constantly say "gays" should have "thicker skins" - I'd suggest that to you my friend. Not just about this - but in general.

Don't worry, I'm not personally offended or hurt. My response to your post was mostly in jest. The amount of overgeneralisations, however, felt a bit disconcertening.

(And now for something completely different: we can reproduce asexually, but we still need egg cells. So. Men (me included) might become obsolete. We haven't mastered it, though. I'd suggest watching Terra Nova as well, btw: "Overpopulation means extinction!")

[StabGuy]

Abirn wrote...

StabGuy wrote...

Great thread.

Bioware have become politically correct vanguards, so don't expect this to get any better.

Being politically correct even if its too far, is far far better than pandering to the rednecks and soccer moms watching fox "news"

I think enforcing any belief system on your customers is just generally a bad idea. Even if you are 100% right, you should be giving the customers a chance to adjust at their own pace, not weight it on them as if it's your job to make them understand otherwise - video games are supposed to be entertainment, not education mediums.

It is kind of funny how it backflipped on Bioware, this guy doesn't even have a problem with gays but Bioware is telling him to be gay.

Blizzard are always tempted by fans to do stuff like this, and they know better than to just throw it in there without seriously thinking about it the right way.