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[Hollowhisp]

One of my closest friends is quite camp but strictly heterosexual, he gets flirted with by men all the time when we go out. Not really that hard to tell people you arnt interested without seeming like you are filled with angst and hate.

[Kylamero]

glitter_guld wrote...

That is a great idea, Kylamero. Pity that this ME game is the last, I feel.

Would be a great shame, i never want my Shepard story to end.

[Arkitekt]

Kylamero, actually most of my runs are asexual, mostly because I find ME romances still a bit weird, and I have little problems avoiding them. However, thats mostly because I am always slightly metagaming, not because the game mechanics is any good. D sometimes I feel like playing in a minefield of sexual innuendos hidden in every paragon choice.

[Aetius5]

Not that being gay is bad/wrong, but after knowing Cortez is a gay LI, I kinda avoided him because it would be awkward for him to come onto me. I sacrificed Kaidan on Virmire, so I didn't have a chance for him to come onto me. I think its okay for it to be in the game, but it should be subtle and initiated by the player.

[snfonseka]

In ME universe majority of the population is gay or bi

[Balmung31]

McBaal wrote...

Maybe you are just too charming to your crew. You can be an AH at some occasions, it wont hurt the crewmembers. So take it as a compliment if even members of the same sex would like to hump you

Happened to me once in college.  Didn't really mind, even though I definitely don't swing that way. 

[Kylamero]

I've always wanted to do a playthrough as an asexual Shepard Arkitekt. It would be fitting to have a character with so many friends on his quest but still be alone in his mission to defeat the reapers, all noble in his intentions to put aside any romantic interests so that others can still have theirs in the years to come. I might just give it a bash.

[Planeforger]

kalle90 wrote...

Issue is that you can't be nice to anyone without having them hit on you. Especially Kaidan who was buddybuddy in ME1 and now suddenly he has hots for maleShepard is very disturbing. By now Kaidan should know my mainshep doesn't swing with guys even if I ask "are you alright?

Dragon Age had the same problem. My female character tried to be nice to everyone, which resulted in her literally having four conversations in a row where different NPCs admitted their feelings, only to be ultimately rejected (including rejecting Alastair twice in two consecutive conversations).

Bioware always seems to have trouble distinguishing between 'being friendly' and 'being romantically interested in someone', and that problem only gets more muddled when bisexual characters are thrown into the mix.

TexasToast712 wrote...

 Garrus didn't go gay for Shep. All that matters to me. Everyone else IDGAF. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie] I could live with it even if he did though.

This is the most surprising one for me, since those two spent the entirity of ME2 flirting. Seriously, play through that game again imagining that they had a crush on each other, and suddenly all of their lines fit a little more perfectly.

Silasqtx wrote...

That's not it lolz, it was at the
memorial. He started sobbing, paragon interrupt came in, i thought it
was a simple pat on the back, but Shepard leaned dangerously closer =
ALT-F4.

What, why? That sounds hilarious! Why not just run with it and laugh at the cheesiness of it all?

[78stonewobble]

Arf... It isn't THAT bad... lol

It could be "fixed" (in future games) with:

More voice response options.

More accurate conversation wheel. Shep sometime says something quite different from what I wanted him to say.

[Rabbi Satan]

Planeforger wrote...
What, why? That sounds hilarious! Why not just run with it and laugh at the cheesiness of it all?

That's what I did in DA:O when Morgann and my silent Warden copulated. And in each scene, I literally laughed out loud, as I couldn't believe how cheesy the love scenes were.

I actually started a thread a few weeks before ME3's release, asking if there was going to be any "benefits" to not pursuing any romances during the entire trilogy. As trying to romance someone when GIANT SENTIENT SPACESHIPS are tearing the galaxy a new cloaca, seemed for me to be a tad bit out of place.

I was half expecting a Forever Alone achievement by the end.

[BarnabyTheWarrior]

ughh... Just take out the romances until you can do it tastefully.

[Transgirlgamer]

I can't remember who it was that said it, sorry, but someone made the good point that since Commander Sheppard is 1) The commander of the unit and 2) A professional, marine officer, She (or he if you played it that way) wouldn't be trying to romance members of her (his) unit during a mission, regardless or whether they are male or female. I've not really thought about it that way untill now, but it makes sense. So what we all should really be doing is suggesting Bioware make games more realistic by removing romance options altogether. It makes more sense that there are romance options in Dragon Age 2 as for the most part of the game, Hawke is just trying to live her (his) own life. Which would understandably include romances with one, or more ofthe people she (he) spends most of her (his) time with.

[apoc_reg]

Steve does annoy me.

I'm his captain and I want to be sympathetic to my crew memeber but the only choice I have is:

A) Man up and get back to work

or

Suc... my....

Where is the C) I'm sorry for your loss I hope you get over it ok...!


BarnabyTheWarrior You are so right!

Modifié par apoc_reg, 12 mars 2012 - 11:06 .

[BarnabyTheWarrior]

Ericzio wrote...

I'm okay with there being "Gays" in Mass Effect 3 I just wish that charm choices wouldn't be the flirting choices as well. There is also a love lock in Mass Effect where you seemingly become more than friends by picking the wrong choice which sucks. I never really spoke to Cortez until I locked the romance with Liara so I never got to become "more than friends" Just ignore every character and only talk to the one you care about, it's not that difficult..

That's not the way the game was meant to be played....<_<

Ok, let me avoid every male character in the homoerotic minefield so I don't get creeped out by accidentally making my sheapard gay. That's just wrong.

[melisma]

Rabbi Satan wrote...
That's what I did in DA:O when Morgann and my silent Warden copulated. And in each scene, I literally laughed out loud, as I couldn't believe how cheesy the love scenes were.

I accidentally slept with Morrigan on one of my Wardens. He was courting Zev, and then Morrigan accosted him, he innocently offered her a blanket or something and the next thing I knew, the romance cutscene was playing. It honestly took me by complete surprise. I had to reload the game >_< 

At least my femshep was able to shut Kaidan down (again - I thought we dealt with this back on the first Normandy, Kaidan) when he awkwardly hit on her.

[ncknck]

The message Bioware is sending is pretty obvious. Paragon = GAY.

Luckily i play renegade.

[Daiyus]

Shame we couldn't have an Option to not include same sex romances. I've nothing against homosexuality, but I'm not, and neither is my Shepard. I don't want to have to metagame and know the conversations inside out to avoid a homosexual relationship. It's bad enough dallying around the female LI to keep them uninterested.

[Aaleel]

I don't mind gay characters, but I just don't like it when they make all the characters gay, including those who weren't previously. It just seems lazy to me. There should be some that are gay, some that are hetero, and some that are bi.

[Gterror]

Shepard national anthem for being gay:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vachoxz_1Zw

[Fidget6]

Aaleel wrote...

I don't mind gay characters, but I just don't like it when they make all the characters gay, including those who weren't previously. It just seems lazy to me. There should be some that are gay, some that are hetero, and some that are bi.

Like.... In Mass Effect 3?

[melisma]

Aaleel wrote...

I don't mind gay characters, but I just don't like it when they make all the characters gay, including those who weren't previously. It just seems lazy to me. There should be some that are gay, some that are hetero, and some that are bi.

Well that's good, because there are some that are gay, some that are hetero and some that are bi.

They haven't made any 'old' characters gay. I don't think it's out of character for Kaidan to be bi; just because he never mentioned having a relationship with a guy doesn't mean he wasn't bi. Bisexual people generally don't go around telling the world about all their past relationships IRL, same as everyone else.

[Rabbi Satan]

Gterror wrote...

Shepard national anthem for being gay:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vachoxz_1Zw

I raise you: 

[alanp9]

Arkitekt wrote...

Thing is, I understand it becomes difficult for games to make ambiguity work well. IRL you can give little hints and nods to make your intentions sufficiently clear if the respondent is interested and sufficiently "ignorable" if you don't. ME3 game mechanics makes people confuse paragonian attitudes with sexuality, and I think there is where criticism resides.

I think that games could do better in conveying clear choices rather than confusing players.

This is a good point and a perfectly valid criticism. So now the important question is: why do so many people seem to be framing the debate around the gay romance options?

[Russalka]

Where were all the whiners when Sha'ira HAD SEX with Shepard just because of an innocuous reply. Or when Liara and Ashley practically stuck themselves on you when you were nice to them?

Women have been easily fascinated by the male, occasionally the female, hero for a long while, but now it is a catastrophe when a bisexual and a gay man in a game full of heterosexual male fantasies do it as well?

You poor-poor man. How awful it must be to have been complimented by another man!
Well, get used to it. Flirting happens, in real life and in-game. There are MANY options to say no, from what I have seen, so use those.

EDIT: I mixed up the Consort and Shiala, again.

Modifié par Russalka, 12 mars 2012 - 11:47 .