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What is the Point of Characters like James or Jacob?


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i IIVIIorpheus

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A regular, not over the top character, a high character black man who is not a stereotype = affirmative action
Yep...that makes sense....Image IPB

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I don't care about human characters. I just leave them on the ship. I only roll with aliens.

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I liked James as a character, but from what the writers described, they failed in his intended purpose. The idea behind Vega (from what I recall) was that he would be a window into the Mass Effect3 universe for players who had not experienced the setting before. He was fun, but did not serve this exposition purpose as we were told.

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i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

A regular, not over the top character, a high character black man who is not a stereotype = affirmative action
Yep...that makes sense....Image IPB


Nailed it. 

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The Vega/Esteban dialogues are an unexpected, but fantastic bonus that makes me want to go down to the shuttle bay more. Easily some of my favorite banter in the series.

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Jacob is the token black guy, James is the token hispanic guy. Ashley didn't say PENDEJO enough times to qualify. I swear, it's like I'm playing Mass Effect: Handy Manny sometimes.

Had Mass Effect been a 70s horror flick, Jacob would have died first.

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I really like how every post that ive read from OP, he seems to insult someone who does not agree with him, and calls them imature

seems legit

I'd discuss more, but i have some calibrations to take care of

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Personally I liked James as both a squadmate [Tank w/ Carnage!!] and as someone to go chat with. I would give specific examples but that's probably spoilerific so I'll try to avoid that in this forum.

I didn't really care for Jacob but that may have been "my problem" instead of a problem with Jacob.

YMMV.

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melisma wrote...

I like Vega. I think the dynamic he has with femshep is kind of cool. Same with Jacob in ME2, the brohug him and Shep shared was one of my favourite crew dialogues.

On the other hand, I never talked to Wrex at all in ME1 and didn't see the point of him as a character until ME2 so I guess everyone has different tastes.


Yeah. Wrex had no reason to follow Shepard in the first Mass Effect, but people overlook that fact because he's "badass," or whatever.

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i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

A regular, not over the top character, a high character black man who is not a stereotype = affirmative action
Yep...that makes sense....Image IPB


What are you talking about?

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Vega isnt as one sided is i thought he was after talking to him the frist time and slaming his ass to the deck lol
but i dont like the soldier class squad mates they dont fit my play style so him and James got benched
as did just about every one else again i ended up with mostly Garrus and Tali for the whole game with Lirara and Javik once in a wile
oh and take Javik or Garrus with you when you do the temple mission both are epic trolls to Lirara lol

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I actually really liked James. Didn't think i would, however, it really irritated me when he goes to Sheps cabin and says "gracias" incorrectly

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The Big Nothing wrote...
Yeah. Wrex had no reason to follow Shepard in the first Mass Effect, but people overlook that fact because he's "badass," or whatever.


Before he entered the matron stage or whatever and decided to become king of tuchanka so he could get laid, Wrex was basically a free agent who had just completed a contract, which left him with nowhere in particular he needed to go in a hurry. I can see him tagging along for the ride, just because why not.

Note that I didn't really use him in my playthroughs, so I can't really speak for his supposed awesomeness. I had enough Biotics to go around already.

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I didn't like Jacob at first, but when I replayed ME2 before ME3 I liked him a lot, if you give him the chance. Vega is the same. Thought he was a jerk at first, but I gave him a chance and in the end he was a cool guy.

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Soulglow wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

A regular, not over the top character, a high character black man who is not a stereotype = affirmative action
Yep...that makes sense....Image IPB


What are you talking about?


Ask the OP what he is talking about.  He introduced it for some nonsensical reason....

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I don't get it. If a minority character shows a hint of ethnicity, people take offense. If they don't, they're boring and pointless. It's very revealing about the mindset of people that play these games and society in general.

Modifié par modeseven, 12 mars 2012 - 04:36 .


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Affirmitive Action huh OP lol, i guess some people always gotta throw in their personal opinions

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ognick23 wrote...

Affirmitive Action huh OP lol, i guess some people always gotta throw in their personal opinions


Clearly that's how Anderson became an Admiral, amirite?

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They are soldiers during wartime
/thread

Modifié par Gabey5, 12 mars 2012 - 04:42 .


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I never like Thane either. His "Im not a killer, just an instrument" logic is like a cheap way to make a "bad" guy "good". Not to mentioned its been used to death in movies... I think I only used him in his loyalty quest in ME2.

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In fact I did like both characters mentioned here.

James' dialogues with ohter caraters are well wirtten imho. I had him really often on my squad.
It is possible that they know each other for all the time that Shep is on earth and that is, when I got it right half a year. And he possibly adored him/her for what Shep did a few years ago. and why he is staying? You get a clue of it if you talk to him on your first visit on the Citadel in front of a window in the embassy.
Jacob wasn't as nice, but he was okay. I didn't take him along if I had not to, but I had no problem with him. He's an cerberus "agent" an when TIM sais he has to be on the Normandy, then he's there. Simply not Shep's decision. His duty? Taking care of the armory.. someone has to do it.

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I liked Vega, but never brought him along because his character role (dependable, but jaded, emotionally reserved veteran soldier) is kind of preformed by Garrus, except Garrus is better and has been around for every game so I've developed an attachment to him. I don't really get anything new out of Jacob/James/etc that I don't also get from Garrus, and Garrus also brings an "I'm an alien!" touch to it.

Same with with Jacob, really. He's just sort of generic and predictable. I suppose Garrus is too, but I like those types of characters, which I why I'd always have Garrus with me, and swap around the spare team member depending on how appropriate I think they'd be to the mission at hand.

So, in my opinion, if we didn't have Garrus, I think these characters would be more popular, but since we do have Garrus, and Garrus is so likable, we get this.

Modifié par Emergent System, 12 mars 2012 - 04:48 .


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Eain wrote...

I actually appreciated both characters. Normal people in a sea of crazy. Between Drell assassins and lesbian asari and murderous Salarian doctors, tank-bred Krogan and Krogan warlords, crazed experimental biotics with more tattoos than they have room for and genetically engineered cheerleaders, it's nice to have down to earth people who are just people.

Jacob and James are bros as far as I'm concerned.



strongly agree, they are the closest thing to regular guys like you and me in the ME games, most of us can probably name guys we know in real life that are just like those two, aside from the fact that they shoot people for a living Image IPB

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modeseven wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

Affirmitive Action huh OP lol, i guess some people always gotta throw in their personal opinions


Clearly that's how Anderson became an Admiral, amirite?



yea  SURE!

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James is ok, well so so, my go-to team are Javik and Kaidan, Kaiden has some nice biotic tools with some tech stuff and Javik just tears stuff up, plus he is funny, though sometimes i use Kaidena nd Garrus, then again im usually packing a Sniper rifle so i dont use garrus much and tend to need a few closer range squaddies, which kaidena nd javik do nicely, james .. dont really need a tank given most thigns are dead before they get close enough to trouble me.