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[Popemaster123]

Who used their PC to kill the Archdemon?

ive got 3 chars all ready to enter the fort drakon roff all with radiccaly different stories and my fave char is gonna sacrifice himself....

also is it like a dialogue option or is it like a finishing move?

[Obadiah]

I played the final battle and let the main PC kill the archdemon once, and then replayed with Alistair killing the archdemon. The PC sacrifice in my opinion was much better. Big tear-jerker ending there.

Modifié par Obadiah, 27 novembre 2009 - 05:38 .

[tpp5004]

Its a dialogue option. From what I've heard sacrificing yourself leads to the best ending. I did it myself and I can say it was pretty good especially considered everyone says most of the endings are not that great.

[Popemaster123]

Cool i wondered...so anyone wanna share stories of why they sacrificed themselves? like morality bored of life...miss your mum?

[Emryc]

Alistair sacrificed himself.



He really wanted to in a blaze of royal glory, and my character was in love with Leliana and just wanted to get away from it all for awhile.



I still found it a strong ending. Alistair, for all his weaknesses, becomes a real hero in his final moments.

[Hatem]

I did the Ultimate Sacrifice for several reasons. First of all, I was playing a "good" Grey Warden so Loghain died on the spot and accepting Morrigan's ritual went against all the choices I made throughout the game. Also I couldn't let Alistair die because I disliked Anora too much to let her be queen. Finally, in this game, Riordan was my hero, so I just followed his footsteps.

[kormesios]

Popemaster123 wrote...

Cool i wondered...so anyone wanna share stories of why they sacrificed themselves? like morality bored of life...miss your mum?

I played a city elf.  He was the sort of hero who might give his life, is necessary, but wasn't a glory hound or anything--he would have preferred a different way.  But:

- He had no home anymore
- His companion's party was breaking up: Morrigan gone, Sten leaving, Zev dead, Wynne dying
- No desire to spend the rest of his life recruiting new Grey Wardens, let alone butchering them if they refused to do the "joining"

Most importantly:
- He'd done a lot of work to get Alistair on the throne, really taking sides in the factional strife.  If Alistair died almost everything non-blight my elf had accomplished would've come undone

That being said, I still wish I could have been talked out of it by Alistair.  But the dialogue didn't flow that way.

[Pheace]

As a human noble I took it upon myself to save my 'worthy' life, slay the beast, and reign the country as I rightfully should ^^

Morrigan ran off with a kid to do it but who cares right, been there, done that, gots me a queen now

Modifié par Pheace, 27 novembre 2009 - 05:58 .

[Obadiah]

My Cousland PC just couldn't let Alistair throw his life away after he suddenly started showing some leadership potential there near the ending. That and, frankly, he was a bit depressed thinking his whole family dead, and Morrigan leaving him.



Had to go out with a blaze of glory.

[Axterix]

Didn't on my first time through.  My PC is also a "good" type, but, due to political and tactical reasons, as well as buying into Leliana's everyone deserves a shot at redemption philosophy, let Loghain live to do the deed.

Sacrifice is in the future though, if not for my pursuading and archery elf, then for my dwarven noble.

[WaRCh1eF]

<- He killed the Archdemon and i have no regrets at all. Sadly it was the perfect ending, Allistair is the king, he had to survive.

In the ending, Leliana and Zevran both suffered my dead but the rest was just the way I intended it to be.

[Recidiva]

I have finished a few times and have been completely unable to convince Alistair to let me take the final blow.
If Bioware could have given me an option to clock him one so I could do it, that would have been appreciated.
Anybody managed as a female at 100 approval in a romance to allow Alistair to step aside?
Insult to injury, I demanded he NOT do so but still got the achievement of ordering to kill himself.
*sigh*
I've been through that final battle and through the conversation tree a few times, but all I ever get is an apology, a kiss, or just "you're saying that like I'm giving you a choice."
Playing as a male dwarf now so I can get my eulogy. But if I go through this for the fifth time and he STILL won't let me take the blow because he likes me too much, I'm gonna restore and take Loghain.
But curious to know if any female he's in love with can manage to get him to step aside. I even called him a coward and he said that it'd be worth a song or two.
Frustrating. Terribly romantic, but frustrating.

Modifié par Recidiva, 27 novembre 2009 - 06:51 .

[WaRCh1eF]

I had 95%+ approval. He first said that he will do it, and it took me only 1 option to stop him, my PC just ran off to the archdemon before Allistairs answer. Quite honorable though.

So the problem there is that you are a female.

But on a second thought. He couldnt be so coward to just let his girl die in front of him..

[Recidiva]

Okay. Yeah, I know that's entirely consistent with his character considering he wished he could have saved Duncan. But it's NOT my ideal ending. In keeping with the thread, I wanted him to go on and be King and for me to leave a good-looking and martyrlike corpse. It suits my character better. My husband told me he'd never let me die either and I think that's just...so very romantic...but...not the way I want it. Oh well. It's a girl thing, I see.
Tried again a few times in different ways, toughening his personality, but no go. I even (cheap) tried breaking up with him right before opening up the door to the roof
I think it's an Alistair thing. So far I haven't met someone playing a female character in an active romance that managed to sacrifice herself. So I'm just checking. I've tried the final battle and the dialogue tree a few times, but maybe I'm missing something.
So my dwarf is my solution. But I'm kinda disturbed that I can't be a hero 'cause I'm a girl.

Modifié par Recidiva, 27 novembre 2009 - 07:15 .

[SarEnyaDor]

You have to leave Alistair with the other party - if he loves you he will always sacrifice himself. If he loved you and left you out of duty he will sacrifice himself. You can only take him with and do the deed yourself if his approval is low or had no romance, then you can talk him down.

[Recidiva]

Okay, thanks Sar. Three replays I tried to change it, but I couldn't. So I'm short a few boxes of tissues, but all in all...that's okay. Stupid romantic jerk. *kicks the wall*

[SarEnyaDor]

Though I'm curious what options got you a kiss at the end..... I would have liked that.

[Axterix]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

You have to leave Alistair with the other party - if he loves you he will always sacrifice himself. If he loved you and left you out of duty he will sacrifice himself. You can only take him with and do the deed yourself if his approval is low or had no romance, then you can talk him down.

For the best anyway.  You've seen how much of a pansy he was over losing Duncan and over not being allowed to kill Loghain.

Just how badly would he let the kingdom fall apart if his one and only lover dies?

[ckriley]

My PC absolutely sacrificed herself. It was just something she would've done. Alistair needed to be king even though he didn't think he'd be a good one. The bloodline needed to be secure. I loved that one of my dialogue options to Alistair at the end was "I can't let you do that. Sorry." And then she ran off and killed the dragon.



It was fitting.

[Recidiva]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

Though I'm curious what options got you a kiss at the end..... I would have liked that.

Gimme a few.  Let me just kill the archdemon a few times and give you the tree if I can rediscover it.

[Recidiva]

ckriley wrote...

My PC absolutely sacrificed herself. It was just something she would've done. Alistair needed to be king even though he didn't think he'd be a good one. The bloodline needed to be secure. I loved that one of my dialogue options to Alistair at the end was "I can't let you do that. Sorry." And then she ran off and killed the dragon.

It was fitting.

Were you romantically involved?

[ckriley]

Recidiva wrote...

ckriley wrote...

My PC absolutely sacrificed herself. It was just something she would've done. Alistair needed to be king even though he didn't think he'd be a good one. The bloodline needed to be secure. I loved that one of my dialogue options to Alistair at the end was "I can't let you do that. Sorry." And then she ran off and killed the dragon.

It was fitting.

Were you romantically involved?

He loved my character but couldn't be with her out of duty.  Or so he said.

[SarEnyaDor]

I tried that option (saying sorry, can't let you do that) and he said "you say that like I'm giving you a choice" and he ran off. I was mad, sad and touched.

[Recidiva]

Axterix wrote...

For the best anyway.  You've seen how much of a pansy he was over losing Duncan and over not being allowed to kill Loghain.

Just how badly would he let the kingdom fall apart if his one and only lover dies?

If I have any complaint, it's that Alistair's voice actor and the writers gave the character TOO MUCH intelligence and depth.

Then he falls apart at the Landsmeet, which was a shame.  He's going along, being cool, being funny, being cool, being funny, kicking ass and now ... oooh, look, he's making no sense now. 

[Recidiva]

ckriley wrote...
He loved my character but couldn't be with her out of duty.  Or so he said.

Oh hell no.  That did ****** me off.  I did manage to replay and talk him into staying involved even though I was an elf.

Cracked me up.

"You're right, can you ever forgive me for bringing it up?"
"Maybe.  But you'll have to work for it."
"Saucy!  We'll discuss my "punishment" later."