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[Dr.Goodspeed]

Shadedsoul wrote...

Dr.Goodspeed wrote...

Shadedsoul wrote...

I had this same issue for a while... was because I had too much connected to the single transformer in the house. So I ran an extension cord from another area of the house to verify that's where the problem was coming from.

Viola, no more problem.

If you wanna test this out, and you dont know if the outlet you are about to test is part of the same circuit. Find the circuit breaker that shuts that part of the house down. Then find an outlet thats still working. That outlet is part of a different circuit and the power on it (for the most part) is not limited by the power along the other one.

Mhm.... that just doesn't seem logical in my case though. If there was a problem with too much stuff being connected, wouldn't it have occured earlier? I've been running my setup like this for about 7-8 months and the shutdowns only started recently.

 
Here's some good news for a change! Now that I've verified my PSU is working via paperclip trick I plugged it back in, started my PC and surprisingly it's working again. The question is, for how long...?

I still haven't identified the source of the problem yet. And there's still that strange relation to ME3, since my PC has never shut down doing anything else.

Its all dependant on how many programs (and which) you are running. Extremely memory intensive programs like games cause the system to work harder... perhaps ME3 has just pushed your system to the point where its started using ENOUGH power to cause this to happen. Suggest not running other programs in the background when at all possible to reduce usage. Its not uncommon for people to have a browser instance running in the background of the game so you can switch out to look something up, or post on a forum on occasion (:innocent:). A web browser left running can easily start eating up more than 10% of the system usage as a high memory game. Some browsers more than others (*COUGH*IE*COUGH*). The longer it runs and the more websites you connected to, the more memory it tends to use. Better to close these windows and just reopen them as you NEED them.

Hm... I appreciate your input on this, but I tend to believe it is a hardware problem after all. Maybe ME3 triggered or forced it somehow. If it was an issue solely related to ME3 and/or other software with a high CPU usage it wouldn't have knocked my PC out completely so that I couldn't start it anymore. =)

[Shadedsoul]

Dr.Goodspeed wrote...

Hm... I appreciate your input on this, but I tend to believe it is a hardware problem after all. Maybe ME3 triggered or forced it somehow. If it was an issue solely related to ME3 and/or other software with a high CPU usage it wouldn't have knocked my PC out completely so that I couldn't start it anymore. =)

Fair enough.

Another possibility then.

RAM starting to go bad. Had a stick go bad a few months back. System cant boot up with bad RAM obviously. My system would OOCASIONALLY boot up until I realized it was the RAM that was the issue and replaced it.

[Dr.Goodspeed]

AniMaxio wrote...

Have exact same problem. I can sometimes play 20min sometimes 5h and then my comp starts rebooting without a bsod. I played skyrim and BF3 and had no problems. Checkt temperatures and trayed everything written on the forum...

Yes, that's exactly it. Could be completely unrelated but are you running the game in windowed fullscreen mode for easier tabbing?

My initial plan was to gather some more info as to when and under what circumstances exactly these shutdowns/reboots occur, but now that my PC couldn't even be started for a couple of hours I'm really starting to get worried.

It's either ME3 that's triggering or forcing these reboot/shutdown issues or the reboots/shutdowns caused by ME3 have been damaging my hardware. If the latter is the case it is even worse imho.

[Dr.Goodspeed]

Shadedsoul wrote...

Dr.Goodspeed wrote...

Hm... I appreciate your input on this, but I tend to believe it is a hardware problem after all. Maybe ME3 triggered or forced it somehow. If it was an issue solely related to ME3 and/or other software with a high CPU usage it wouldn't have knocked my PC out completely so that I couldn't start it anymore. =)

Fair enough.

Another possibility then.

RAM starting to go bad. Had a stick go bad a few months back. System cant boot up with bad RAM obviously. My system would OOCASIONALLY boot up until I realized it was the RAM that was the issue and replaced it.

RAM usually causes BSODs though. Iirc it is even the most common hardware related reason for BSODs.

Now that you mention it though, I did unplug and replug a RAM bar for easier access to my PSU cable. I also unplugged my floppy drive(yes, I still have floppy drive in my PC) from the MB.

So there is an off chance it could be one of those two. If anything I think it's the floppy drive as I haven't plugged it back in yet and I'm not planning to until I need it, which is probably never.

It could also be some kind of weird CPU issue. I've read in another forum that CPUs are sometimes sensitive to their exact positioning etc., so taking it out and putting it back in can possibly solve CPU related problem. But again, it's an off chance imho and I still think any CPU related issue would most likely be noticable via temperature. Right now for example my CPU is running at a smooth 32°C.

Modifié par Dr.Goodspeed, 13 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[Shadedsoul]

Dr.Goodspeed wrote...

 If anything I think it's the floppy drive as I haven't plugged it back in yet and I'm not planning to until I need it, which is probably never.

Whats a floppy drive?


Whatever it is, it sounds kinda limp so im sure you wont ever need it.

Seriously tho, I haven't had a floppy drive connected to any of my computers in over 5 years lol.

[Wakizashi.Sabre]

Dr.Goodspeed wrote...

AniMaxio wrote...

Have exact same problem. I can sometimes play 20min sometimes 5h and then my comp starts rebooting without a bsod. I played skyrim and BF3 and had no problems. Checkt temperatures and trayed everything written on the forum...

Yes, that's exactly it. Could be completely unrelated but are you running the game in windowed fullscreen mode for easier tabbing?

My initial plan was to gather some more info as to when and under what circumstances exactly these shutdowns/reboots occur, but now that my PC couldn't even be started for a couple of hours I'm really starting to get worried.

It's either ME3 that's triggering or forcing these reboot/shutdown issues or the reboots/shutdowns caused by ME3 have been damaging my hardware. If the latter is the case it is even worse imho.¨

Well now knowing... running apps as Avast, Ad-Aware, COmodo,, Core temp, Catalysts, M-Audio app, Miranda in background. I thought it could be related to Firewall or something, but seems as total nonsence to me, it would force the pc reboot after some time of playing and not after loading or so and also, ME3 is  allowed in FW,AV software as trusty app.

Catalyst use default "app decide" for 3D applications.

Also temps are flawless, PC is dust free. i read here about issues with house energy, but as i wrote ago, I can have turned on OCCT with MSI Kombustor test in one time no problem on Q6600@3,3GHZ-1,45V. Non "benchmark" apps as BF3 or Skyrim or graphic and video software, packers - all is fine and in same time my GF  plays on her singlecore the WoW in the same room.

The power consumption of ME3 must be REALLY LOWER, because tried that on default 2,4GHZ- 1,3V and affinity is set to two cores by me. - i have been reading game can be messy on Quads. Also my PSU is rated for 750W and it holds it. it is only few monts old and whole power consumption of my PC will not exceed 500W I guess.

This is why I do not think it is energy - PSU related problem. And if the graphic card is ok in Burn tests with no artefacts at all and good temps, I do also not believe it is problem in graphic card.

Also, i wrote above, but I will repeat myself. I noticed short "screen flicker" when the game is about to collapse.  The tempo is random, but when it start to flick bit faster, every attempt of alt+tab ends with reboot. Reboot occurs when you do nothing too.

Modifié par Wakizashi.Sabre, 13 mars 2012 - 08:23 .

[Dr.Goodspeed]

It was the PSU after all. Shortly after my last post I had my first(and hopefully last) shutdown outside of ME3. So I opened my case again, unplugged my old PSU and made the paperclip test again. This time however it was completely dead, no reaction whatsoever.

Then I unpacked my newly acquired PSU and also tested its functionality with a paperclip before installing it. Worked like a charm. So I installed it and my PC started smoothly.

Guess my old PSU just wasn't completely broken up until now. Hopefully this was the last non-voluntary shutdown I'll experience for a while =)

Thx again for all the help and support, especially to oldgoat75. If this reboot/shutdown issue should occur again despite my new PSU I'll inform you of course.

[Wakizashi.Sabre]

Well, good for you. I reinstalled drivers, changed module sticks, did some other things and the game was running four multiplayer matches no problem. Usually it fell down after fifth wave...

I wonder how it will this continue. I still cannot believe, there is problem with over-dimensioned PSU.

[Dr.Goodspeed]

Wakizashi.Sabre wrote...

Well, good for you. I reinstalled drivers, changed module sticks, did some other things and the game was running four multiplayer matches no problem. Usually it fell down after fifth wave...

I wonder how it will this continue. I still cannot believe, there is problem with over-dimensioned PSU.

Uhm... no offense, but you're kinda hi-jacking this thread. Why don't you stick to your own?

We might have had a similar problem, but that doesn't mean it has the same source. This isn't a "who experiences shutdowns while playing ME3" thread. It's me asking for help with a technical issue, and to be honest I found your multiple posts a bit disruptive and distracting.

Good luck fixing your issues with ME3 though. Maybe you're lucky and they're indeed software related in your case so you don't have to spend 200 bucks on a new PSU.

Modifié par Dr.Goodspeed, 14 mars 2012 - 01:44 .

[Wakizashi.Sabre]

Dr.Goodspeed wrote...

Wakizashi.Sabre wrote...

Well, good for you. I reinstalled drivers, changed module sticks, did some other things and the game was running four multiplayer matches no problem. Usually it fell down after fifth wave...

I wonder how it will this continue. I still cannot believe, there is problem with over-dimensioned PSU.

Uhm... no offense, but you're kinda hi-jacking this thread. Why don't you stick to your own?

We might have had a similar problem, but that doesn't mean it has the same source. This isn't a "who experiences shutdowns while playing ME3" thread. It's me asking for help with a technical issue, and to be honest I found your multiple posts a bit disruptive and distracting.

Good luck fixing your issues with ME3 though. Maybe you're lucky and they're indeed software related in your case so you don't have to spend 200 bucks on a new PSU.

Sorry for "offending you" but I thought it was not needed to make a new thread, if the problem was same... more because, I thought, it wil be better if people with same problem will post here, so Biowre/EA will see it is not accasional thing.  So, with  the new PSU, the game is ok for you?

Modifié par Wakizashi.Sabre, 14 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[Dr.Goodspeed]

Wakizashi.Sabre wrote...

Dr.Goodspeed wrote...

Wakizashi.Sabre wrote...

Well, good for you. I reinstalled drivers, changed module sticks, did some other things and the game was running four multiplayer matches no problem. Usually it fell down after fifth wave...

I wonder how it will this continue. I still cannot believe, there is problem with over-dimensioned PSU.

Uhm... no offense, but you're kinda hi-jacking this thread. Why don't you stick to your own?

We might have had a similar problem, but that doesn't mean it has the same source. This isn't a "who experiences shutdowns while playing ME3" thread. It's me asking for help with a technical issue, and to be honest I found your multiple posts a bit disruptive and distracting.

Good luck fixing your issues with ME3 though. Maybe you're lucky and they're indeed software related in your case so you don't have to spend 200 bucks on a new PSU.

Sorry for "offending you" but I thought it was not needed to make a new thread, if the problem was same... more because, I thought, it wil be better if people with same problem will post here, so Biowre/EA will see it is not accasional thing.  So, with  the new PSU, the game is ok for you?

You didn't "offend" me. Yes, it's usually better if people having the same problem pool information and solutions in one thread.

The thing is, you starting posting in this thread when it was more or less 100% clear that my problem wasn't ME3 related, or at least not entirely, since my PC didn't even start at all anymore. I've never heard of a game, or any software for that matter, causing your PC to die completely.

So far it seems that thew new PSU has solved all my problems. Of course I can't say for sure until I haven't had a spontaneous reboot or shutdown in a few days, but let's just say I'm very confident it was the PSU. The fact that my old PSU cannot be jump started with a paperclip anymore further supports that theory.

[oldgoat75]

Good to hear that the new PSU seems to have done the trick! Now get back to defeating the Reapers :-)

[Dr.Goodspeed]

oldgoat75 wrote...

Good to hear that the new PSU seems to have done the trick! Now get back to defeating the Reapers :-)

Consider it done, Sir!