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[killnoob]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

killnoob wrote...



OH GEE

Last time I checked Admiral Hackett was alive.
Maybe he had a heart attack and dropped dead or something, I donno.

Honestly, if you are able to suspend your disbelief that Shepard actually destroyed a Reaper with Cain, or that Reapers would leave the humans alone when they're building the crucible, don't tell me I'm stretching my imagintions.

Oh.. wow.. you're right. Because if Hackett is alive, the entire chain of command is completely unbroken and the fleet is probably super organized. Did you even watch the final battle? It's a free-for-all for survival. I have a hard time picturing Hackett single-handedly organizing thousands of alien vessels for the sole purpose of relocating a 7 billion ton megastructure within an hour.

Reapers didn't "leave humans alone", it was a secret project. Shepard does a lot of crazy heroic stuff, even if it is ridiculously improbable it's still plausible. Your idea is impossible for any number of reasons.

A secret project that The Illusive Man Knew and didn't tell the Reapers until the last minute.


And who said its' going to crush in 1 hour?

Who said it's going to crush at all?

This is all people speculating.

Still don't get it?

[killnoob]

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[quote]kramerfan86 wrote...

The citadel was believed to be near indestructible, what makes you think that the tattered remains of the fleets will be capable of doing any significant damage to one of the arms?[/quote]

That's what I'm talking about, thanks for pointing it. It seems that to fragmentate citadel only great power is needed (Crucible+ Catalyst- never mind I hate both of them as they're irrational...). If allied fleets hardly can beat the one reaper... And now they must be at least bit "used". I don't see what can they do except helplesly watching.

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How about forcing it to change course with fire power?

Jesus christ you people seem to think there's only 1 solution to 1 problem.

And I sincerely doubt that you've played the game because the allied fleet is not fighting against 1 reaper but the entire reapers in general and they do pretty well considering they haven't been wiped out yet.


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Ehm... What? Let's say that You can push it left or right. Eventually push it towards Earth. I don't see a way to pull it up. And I want to remind You-they don't have much time. Minutes maybe hours. definitely nothing more.



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It don't have to have any impact when hitting earth (but it can- in some endings). But mass relays explodes! They can't just stop exist they have to release energy they gathered from millions years. [/quote]

Play the damn game.

Do you see the mass relay explode? yes.
Do you see the mass relay explode and destroy everyone? NO.

Where do the "destroy everyone" bit come from?

Assumption.

Why do you assume something like that?

You want better endings.

Why?

Because the current one sucks.

All these arguing, trying to prove that everyone died and there's no way anyone could survive without mass relay is completely unneccessary because others and myself have given countless examples of how people could deal with the loss of mass relay.



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I've played. I've finished all 3 ME. Do you see Reapers made? No. Does it mean they don't exist? Yeah, maybe- just maybe- those relays don't kill anybody. But it's just another proof that writer should lose his job. It seems that guy didn'y think about most obvious things.

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Please explain the highlight gibberish I don't have time to decipher meaningless sentences.

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You tell that if I can't see something happened it don't have to happen. Anyone have seen Reapers made? No. But in ME we can see them as well as results of their hard "work". We don't see that exploding relays of course. But if something explodes it must've some impact. Even if not as big as in "Arrival"- something has exploded. Do You truly believe that nothing will happen due to that?

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Right, so by your logic,

Just because you can't prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist, so that means he does?

Good luck trying to become a scientist.

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I think that it's You who should prove that such explosion DON'T make
serious damages. Explosions have such properties You know? Usually not
positive ones.

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If it DOES make serious damage,

how does normandy even got out of solar system alive?

If it supernova, no one should get out of sol alive.

Can you start reasoning with your head a little instead of asking someone else to do it for you?
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We can see Joker in Normandy escaping after beam hits relay (otherwise he wouldn't be able to jump through destroyed mass relay, right?). And I'm stating that whole Sol should be destroyed (no I don't want it to happen. It seems logical, right?). So I can't see any contradictions.


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Supernova = faster than anything in existence.
Destruction = instanteous
Normandy = escaped the supernova

???

Still no contradictions?




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Wait... What? Mass relay can "throw" ship on very lon distance. Normandy has jumped before beam hit relay (otherwise Normandy wouldn't jump- through destroyed mass relay). Supernova is not destroying whole galaxy. "Only" space system.

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Honestly.

Think. For one second.

Every mass relay in every known system "chain exploded"

If everyone of them goes into supernova, do you think Normandy will have the time to jump for 1 system to another without getting wiped out?

[Kmead15]

majormajormmajor wrote...

killnoob are you still arguing like a noob for there being no devastating consequences to the loss of the relays? Otherwise me and the two or three other chaps are going to declare victory by default

What about the people saying that it sucks for a while but it doesn't have to be the end of the galaxy?

majormajormmajor wrote...

kramerfan86 wrote...

I
dont think the fuel is the trouble people are making it out to be,
arent gas giants the source for the isotope that is used for fuel? They
can get fuel.

Aye, they can get fuel- but prewar refining capacity isn't going to be enough to make all the
fuel they are going to need. Remove the mass relays from the equation
and you essentially upset these calculations. Good catch about the
relativistic time factor, though. Now our intrepid space explorers only
have to worry about thirty years passing by at the destination while
they're in FTL travel! Forever War all over again!

I thought I remembered reading something in the Codex about their FTL not causing relativistic time distortions. Give me a minute, I'll doublecheck that.

[killnoob]

lagged

Modifié par killnoob, 12 mars 2012 - 05:33 .

[Mixxer5]

killnoob wrote...

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

You dont see contradictions?How did my squadmate which was next to me while i was charging for the beam.Be on the Normandy 30 minutes later and be on the Sol Relay.Seriously.
(30 minutes is random number generated by the number of steps u take and the 3 persons u talk with)

For fk sake mate, I keep telling you this is not a thread about how the ending doesn't make sense.

This is a thread about whether the destruction of mass relay will be the end of the galaxy.

The ending suck. Doesn't make sense. We get it.

Mass relay  = supernova

Normandy = surivived

Normandy = god speed?

No.

Therefore

Mass relay =/= supernova

God damn.

About ending- I do agree. 

About Normandy escaping from explosion.
1.Normandy jumps through relay.
2.Shepard "chooses"
3.Beam hits relay.
4.Relay explodes (we don't know how strong explosion is though- BUT in Arrival it destroyed whole space system)
5.Normandy jumps out of "corridor" (or whatever that is) in the middle between two relays (doesn't make sense- it should be destroyed- it can't slow down from great fast to 0 in second without consequences). Normandy doesn't reach it's destination. 
6.Relays in all galaxy explode- Normandy is out of range- luckily it seems. 

[Arduous Wolf]

clonedoriginzero wrote...

sure, some people might never see home again. some of the aliens might starve. but devistating? nah. not really.

No offence intended but this statement is ridiculous. Not devistating? Even if the rest of the galaxy was in good shape suddenldy losing the main infrastructure would cause complete and utter chaos. Now factor in most systems and planets are going to be recovering from the Reaper attacts and you have the recipe for an apocolictic atmostphere,

Modifié par Arduous Wolf, 12 mars 2012 - 05:36 .

[killnoob]

Mixxer5 wrote...

killnoob wrote...

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

You dont see contradictions?How did my squadmate which was next to me while i was charging for the beam.Be on the Normandy 30 minutes later and be on the Sol Relay.Seriously.
(30 minutes is random number generated by the number of steps u take and the 3 persons u talk with)

For fk sake mate, I keep telling you this is not a thread about how the ending doesn't make sense.

This is a thread about whether the destruction of mass relay will be the end of the galaxy.

The ending suck. Doesn't make sense. We get it.

Mass relay  = supernova

Normandy = surivived

Normandy = god speed?

No.

Therefore

Mass relay =/= supernova

God damn.

About ending- I do agree. 

About Normandy escaping from explosion.
1.Normandy jumps through relay.
2.Shepard "chooses"
3.Beam hits relay.
4.Relay explodes (we don't know how strong explosion is though- BUT in Arrival it destroyed whole space system)
5.Normandy jumps out of "corridor" (or whatever that is) in the middle between two relays (doesn't make sense- it should be destroyed- it can't slow down from great fast to 0 in second without consequences). Normandy doesn't reach it's destination. 
6.Relays in all galaxy explode- Normandy is out of range- luckily it seems. 

Good. Now you're actually reasoning.

'IN ARRIVAL it destroyed the star system.

why?

Because Shepard drove a mega astroid into it.

Now, you wanted me to prove to you the relay didn't supernova.

Normandy survived is the best evidence you'll ever get.

NOW, Time to bring out the big gun

In certain ending, Shepard survived.
If the relays supernova in all three endings, how da fk did he survive?
If you can believe shepard survived, why cant' you believe others did?

Because you want a better ending.

Modifié par killnoob, 12 mars 2012 - 05:38 .

[Mixxer5]

killnoob wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

killnoob wrote...



OH GEE

Last time I checked Admiral Hackett was alive.
Maybe he had a heart attack and dropped dead or something, I donno.

Honestly, if you are able to suspend your disbelief that Shepard actually destroyed a Reaper with Cain, or that Reapers would leave the humans alone when they're building the crucible, don't tell me I'm stretching my imagintions.

Oh.. wow.. you're right. Because if Hackett is alive, the entire chain of command is completely unbroken and the fleet is probably super organized. Did you even watch the final battle? It's a free-for-all for survival. I have a hard time picturing Hackett single-handedly organizing thousands of alien vessels for the sole purpose of relocating a 7 billion ton megastructure within an hour.

Reapers didn't "leave humans alone", it was a secret project. Shepard does a lot of crazy heroic stuff, even if it is ridiculously improbable it's still plausible. Your idea is impossible for any number of reasons.

A secret project that The Illusive Man Knew and didn't tell the Reapers until the last minute.


And who said its' going to crush in 1 hour?

Who said it's going to crush at all?

This is all people speculating.

Still don't get it?

Do You think it'll wait until they all reorganize? It'll crush minutes maybe hours later. Fleet is shattered after battle never mind how big fleet we've gathered. There are many injured people on ships many needs instant help. Some ships don't have ammo etc. What Reapers have to do with that? Their plan wasn't orbital bomrdment using Citadels.

[Kloborgg711]

killnoob wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

killnoob wrote...



OH GEE

Last time I checked Admiral Hackett was alive.
Maybe he had a heart attack and dropped dead or something, I donno.

Honestly, if you are able to suspend your disbelief that Shepard actually destroyed a Reaper with Cain, or that Reapers would leave the humans alone when they're building the crucible, don't tell me I'm stretching my imagintions.

Oh.. wow.. you're right. Because if Hackett is alive, the entire chain of command is completely unbroken and the fleet is probably super organized. Did you even watch the final battle? It's a free-for-all for survival. I have a hard time picturing Hackett single-handedly organizing thousands of alien vessels for the sole purpose of relocating a 7 billion ton megastructure within an hour.

Reapers didn't "leave humans alone", it was a secret project. Shepard does a lot of crazy heroic stuff, even if it is ridiculously improbable it's still plausible. Your idea is impossible for any number of reasons.

A secret project that The Illusive Man Knew and didn't tell the Reapers until the last minute.


And who said its' going to crush in 1 hour?

Who said it's going to crush at all?

This is all people speculating.

Still don't get it?

"
A secret project that The Illusive Man Knew and didn't tell the Reapers until the last minute.  "
Um.. yeah.. that was the entire point. Did you miss that? The Illusive Man wanted the Crucible complete... that was his plan the entire time... why would he sabotage that?

Who said it's going to crush in 1 hour? Physics. Who said it's going to crush at all? Physics.
Speculation? Saying that something will fall when you drop it isn't speculation. Saying that a single man can conduct tens of thousands of ships to undergo at least a few precision operations out of the blue is speculation.

[majormajormmajor]

Let's leave aside the silliness of the relays exploding. Not that we can't say for sure that they don't, but because its unnecessary- whether the relays go with a bang or whimper, the galaxy is boned either way. Explode just means they go quickly and spectacularly with more immediate and catastrophic consequences.

To those of you who can't be arsed to read through 15 pages of killnoob-generated nonsense, what's he telling all you people who can't read (think that must be about a dozen or so of us, maybe two), he's been repeating what is essentially the same thing over again- that life in the galaxy will go on. Quite amazing really since no one here is arguing him on that point. We've been pointing out that:

1) even if the galaxy survives without the relays, it will be craptastic for the survivors
2) which doesn't matter, because a considerable number of them won't live to see this

killnoob denies all this. To do this he accuses of us not being able to read, and spewing it back incredibly long quoted posts from other people like so much fecal matter in the attempt to confuse us.

Modifié par majormajormmajor, 12 mars 2012 - 05:40 .

[killnoob]

Mixxer5 wrote...

killnoob wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

killnoob wrote...



OH GEE

Last time I checked Admiral Hackett was alive.
Maybe he had a heart attack and dropped dead or something, I donno.

Honestly, if you are able to suspend your disbelief that Shepard actually destroyed a Reaper with Cain, or that Reapers would leave the humans alone when they're building the crucible, don't tell me I'm stretching my imagintions.

Oh.. wow.. you're right. Because if Hackett is alive, the entire chain of command is completely unbroken and the fleet is probably super organized. Did you even watch the final battle? It's a free-for-all for survival. I have a hard time picturing Hackett single-handedly organizing thousands of alien vessels for the sole purpose of relocating a 7 billion ton megastructure within an hour.

Reapers didn't "leave humans alone", it was a secret project. Shepard does a lot of crazy heroic stuff, even if it is ridiculously improbable it's still plausible. Your idea is impossible for any number of reasons.

A secret project that The Illusive Man Knew and didn't tell the Reapers until the last minute.


And who said its' going to crush in 1 hour?

Who said it's going to crush at all?

This is all people speculating.

Still don't get it?

Do You think it'll wait until they all reorganize? It'll crush minutes maybe hours later. Fleet is shattered after battle never mind how big fleet we've gathered. There are many injured people on ships many needs instant help. Some ships don't have ammo etc. What Reapers have to do with that? Their plan wasn't orbital bomrdment using Citadels.

You are now just arguing for the sake of arguing.

You believed the relays supernova and destroyed sol.

But you're arguing about Citadel crushing into Earth?

[savionen]

I like the "my assumption is better than your assumptions made by the OP."

Assuming you pick the Destroy option, 90% of the galaxy dies. Anyone in a ship dies, Quarians, Volus (that are not on their homeworld), and the Geth die.

Assuming you don't AND the mass relays don't blow up in a supernova...

I don't really see how anybody in the Sol system could survive long term. The travel back to their home planets would take decades, and that's assuming they somehow managed to get food and their ships were actually capable of the journey. In terms of fuel, space is 99.999999% empty. You really think Jupiter or Saturn (assuming they do get their fuel from gas planets) is capable of sustaining hundreds of thousands of ships until they get to the next solar system with gas planets? Not to mention it could take weeks or months? Where are millions or even billions of alien soldiers going to get their food from? You really think in a mission where sacrifice may be necessary they're stocking up on war rations instead of ammo and supplies?

[Youmu]

Arduous Wolf wrote...

No offence intended but this statement is ridiculous. Not devistating? Even if the rest of the galaxy was in good shape suddenldy losing the main infrastructure would cause complete and utter chaos. Now factor in most systems and planets are going to be recovering from the Reaper attacts and you have the recipe for an apocolictic atmostphere,

Compared to the alternative, not, it's not very devastating. Everyone would have gotten harvested by the Reapers. 50,000 years later, everyone would have gotten harvested AGAIN. Another 50,000 years later...

In the grand scale of things, the sacrifice this "cycle" did results in a LOT less deaths later on.

Compared to protheans, who were totally wiped out in their attempt to prevent/delay the cycle, we are doing just fantastic.

Modifié par Youmu, 12 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[Mixxer5]

killnoob wrote...

Mixxer5 wrote...

killnoob wrote...

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

You dont see contradictions?How did my squadmate which was next to me while i was charging for the beam.Be on the Normandy 30 minutes later and be on the Sol Relay.Seriously.
(30 minutes is random number generated by the number of steps u take and the 3 persons u talk with)

For fk sake mate, I keep telling you this is not a thread about how the ending doesn't make sense.

This is a thread about whether the destruction of mass relay will be the end of the galaxy.

The ending suck. Doesn't make sense. We get it.

Mass relay  = supernova

Normandy = surivived

Normandy = god speed?

No.

Therefore

Mass relay =/= supernova

God damn.

About ending- I do agree. 

About Normandy escaping from explosion.
1.Normandy jumps through relay.
2.Shepard "chooses"
3.Beam hits relay.
4.Relay explodes (we don't know how strong explosion is though- BUT in Arrival it destroyed whole space system)
5.Normandy jumps out of "corridor" (or whatever that is) in the middle between two relays (doesn't make sense- it should be destroyed- it can't slow down from great fast to 0 in second without consequences). Normandy doesn't reach it's destination. 
6.Relays in all galaxy explode- Normandy is out of range- luckily it seems. 

Good. Now you're actually reasoning.

'IN ARRIVAL it destroyed the star system.

why?

Because Shepard drove a mega astroid into it.

Now, you wanted me to prove to you the relay didn't supernova.

Normandy survived is the best evidence you'll ever get.

NOW, Time to bring out the big gun

In certain ending, Shepard survived.
If the relays supernova in all three endings, how da fk did he survive?

Because Normandy is ou of range! It's out of relay network (already destroyed). Relays were supposed to send ship from one relay to another. Normandy was pulled out as relay was destroyed. Relay explode not because of asteroid. Relay explode bacause whole energy- which it usually use only to send ships somewhere- is freed. And it's much more than is used to send ships somewhere. It's not asteroid that explodes. It's a relay!

[killnoob]

majormajormmajor wrote...

Let's leave aside the silliness of the relays exploding. Not that we can't say for sure that they don't, but because its unnecessary- whether the relays go with a bang or whimper, the galaxy is boned either way. Explode just means they go quickly and spectacularly with more immediate and catastrophic consequences.

To those of you who can't be arsed to read through 15 pages of killnoob-generated nonsense, what's he telling all you people who can't read (think that must be about a dozen or so of us, maybe two), he's been repeating what is essentially the same thing over again- that life in the galaxy will go on. Quite amazing really since no one here is arguing him on that point. We've been pointing out that:

1) even if the galaxy survives without the relays, it will be craptastic for the survivors
2) which doesn't matter, because a considerable number of them won't live to see this

killnoob denies all this. To do this he accuses of us not being able to read, and spewing it back incredibly long quoted posts from other people like so much fecal matter in the attempt to confuse us.

Lol You know what. You're completely right.

I was wrong.

Everybody died after the relays exploded.

Can't believe I even wasted my time trying to explain to people like you the endings aren't as depressing as you think.

[DarkOrgasm]

This is not the end. Despite all the galactic dying and hardships with the ending, we know there will be another Mass Effect because:

1) The Citadel always gets repaired by the Keepers, 3 of them were shown as Shep starts his journey after being uplifted to the Citadel via the Conduit, already doing whatever they do, and it is now in Earth orbit. http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper

2)The last scene with the grandfather telling stories about "the Shepard" to his grandson, implying that at least a few generations of humans, if not more, have survived after Me3 and are still enduring despite the gravity of destroying the ME Relays.

3) The scene also seems to be set in such a way as that small boy being told stories about "the Shepard" could one day grow up and become like him, but in a new way, and with new challenges.

4) With humans having some of the shortest lifespans of any species in the galaxy, none will survive into the next game most likely. Other species will depending on the BW magic that will be applied. A new human Shep-like character may most likely be developed along these lines.

Modifié par DarkOrgasm, 12 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[killnoob]

Mixxer5 wrote...

Because Normandy is ou of range! It's out of relay network (already destroyed). Relays were supposed to send ship from one relay to another. Normandy was pulled out as relay was destroyed. Relay explode not because of asteroid. Relay explode bacause whole energy- which it usually use only to send ships somewhere- is freed. And it's much more than is used to send ships somewhere. It's not asteroid that explodes. It's a relay!

You didn't finish reading what I wrote.

How does Shepard survive if the relay supernova?

[killnoob]

DarkOrgasm wrote...

This is not the end. Despite all the galactic dying and hardships with the ending, we know there will be another Mass Effect because:

1) The Citadel always gets repaired by the Keepers, 3 of them were shown as Shep starts his journey after being uplifted to the Citadel via the Conduit, already doing whatever they do, and it is now in Earth orbit. http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper

2)The last scene with the grandfather telling stories about "the Shepard" to his grandson, implying that at least a few generations of humans, if not more, have survived after Me3 and are still enduring despite the gravity of destroying the ME Relays.

3) The scene also seems to be set in such a way as that small boy being told stories about "the Shepard" could one day grow up and become like him, but in a new way, and with new challenges.

4) With humans having some of the shortest lifespans of any species in the galaxy, none will survive into the next game most likely. Other species will depending on the BW magic that will be applied. A new human Shep-like character may most likely be developed along these lines.

I wasn't going to use them because I thought these were the obvious clues that the galaxy lived on.
I thought everyone played the game and knew what they're talking about.

I was wrong.

[Kloborgg711]

Youmu wrote...

Arduous Wolf wrote...

No offence intended but this statement is ridiculous. Not devistating? Even if the rest of the galaxy was in good shape suddenldy losing the main infrastructure would cause complete and utter chaos. Now factor in most systems and planets are going to be recovering from the Reaper attacts and you have the recipe for an apocolictic atmostphere,

Compared to the alternative, not, it's not very devastating. Everyone would have gotten harvested by the Reapers. 50,000 years later, everyone would have gotten harvested AGAIN. Another 50,000 years later...

In the grand scale of things, the sacrifice this "cycle" did results in a LOT less deaths later on.

I think most will tell you that they didn't play Mass Effect to save unknown future characters from an implied demise. We played to save the galaxy we love and the characters we love in it. The galaxy as we know it will never come close to what it was, at least not until everything that's happened in these games is long forgotten. The characters we love are either dead or stranded.

[GholaHalleck]

Will the galaxy continue? Sure it will.

Will it continue in anyway, shape or form as it did? No.

Mass relays can't be made with current tech levels, the asari were TRYING, but they couldn't get them to work.

Sure you can travel in space, but the massive needs of the survivors will make space flight too costly in material to be feasible for generations.

Sol system is in dire trouble, if not outright doomed, just by sentient nature. You have entire fleets trapped in Sol with one badly beaten planet able to sustain life. (Mars is not self sustaining.) Fleets with lots of guns, and lots of scared and hungry people who know how to shoot things. Do you really think an admiral who's never had any kind of sway with people outside of humanity is going to get asari, turians salarians quarians, geth and krogans to not carve up earth? Without shepard, anderson, or any of your team? Really?

Every Turian in Sol will probably die from starvation, since they have no way to replace their food supply. (You don't bring seeds on a warship when you can put more ammo in it.) Their biology doesn't accept earth style foods.

But the outlaying colonies will survive, humans are seeded on a few worlds, as are Asari and a few others. So yes, the galaxy will go on living. but it will go on living in a Dark Age. it will be centuries before they hope to even try and rebuild the galaxy spanning civilization they had before.

Sheparad's actions brought about the Bubonic Plague of the mass effect galaxy.

[Mixxer5]

killnoob wrote...

Mixxer5 wrote...

killnoob wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

killnoob wrote...



OH GEE

Last time I checked Admiral Hackett was alive.
Maybe he had a heart attack and dropped dead or something, I donno.

Honestly, if you are able to suspend your disbelief that Shepard actually destroyed a Reaper with Cain, or that Reapers would leave the humans alone when they're building the crucible, don't tell me I'm stretching my imagintions.

Oh.. wow.. you're right. Because if Hackett is alive, the entire chain of command is completely unbroken and the fleet is probably super organized. Did you even watch the final battle? It's a free-for-all for survival. I have a hard time picturing Hackett single-handedly organizing thousands of alien vessels for the sole purpose of relocating a 7 billion ton megastructure within an hour.

Reapers didn't "leave humans alone", it was a secret project. Shepard does a lot of crazy heroic stuff, even if it is ridiculously improbable it's still plausible. Your idea is impossible for any number of reasons.

A secret project that The Illusive Man Knew and didn't tell the Reapers until the last minute.


And who said its' going to crush in 1 hour?

Who said it's going to crush at all?

This is all people speculating.

Still don't get it?

Do You think it'll wait until they all reorganize? It'll crush minutes maybe hours later. Fleet is shattered after battle never mind how big fleet we've gathered. There are many injured people on ships many needs instant help. Some ships don't have ammo etc. What Reapers have to do with that? Their plan wasn't orbital bomrdment using Citadels.

You are now just arguing for the sake of arguing.

You believed the relays supernova and destroyed sol.

But you're arguing about Citadel crushing into Earth?

Nope. I'm just saying that there are two dangers that danger Earth. And both potentially  can destroy whole Sol.
Exploding relays are even more global.

[killnoob]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Youmu wrote...

Arduous Wolf wrote...

No offence intended but this statement is ridiculous. Not devistating? Even if the rest of the galaxy was in good shape suddenldy losing the main infrastructure would cause complete and utter chaos. Now factor in most systems and planets are going to be recovering from the Reaper attacts and you have the recipe for an apocolictic atmostphere,

Compared to the alternative, not, it's not very devastating. Everyone would have gotten harvested by the Reapers. 50,000 years later, everyone would have gotten harvested AGAIN. Another 50,000 years later...

In the grand scale of things, the sacrifice this "cycle" did results in a LOT less deaths later on.

I think most will tell you that they didn't play Mass Effect to save unknown future characters from an implied demise. We played to save the galaxy we love and the characters we love in it. The galaxy as we know it will never come close to what it was, at least not until everything that's happened in these games is long forgotten. The characters we love are either dead or stranded.

And I think i will tell you that this is not the thread about how crappy the endings are.
If people have actually read the thread title I wouldn't have to spend all these time quoting and making post to explain everything.

Modifié par killnoob, 12 mars 2012 - 05:48 .

[majormajormmajor]

an increasingly butt-frustrated killnoob wrote...

Can't believe I even wasted my time trying to explain to people like you the endings aren't as depressing as you think.

We see the relays shut down. Some have chosen to speculate that this means they explode Arrival style. Personally I don't believe that. But the conclusions drawn from there being no relays - for the immediate future of the ME galaxy at least- are nothing but depressing. There is no way to put gloss on it.

[Youmu]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

I think most will tell you that they didn't play Mass Effect to save unknown future characters from an implied demise. We played to save the galaxy we love and the characters we love in it. The galaxy as we know it will never come close to what it was, at least not until everything that's happened in these games is long forgotten. The characters we love are either dead or stranded.

I'm not defending the endings. I'm just working with what terrible endings gave me.

[carnage4u]

IMO, we were not given enough info to know if the mass relays were destoryed in such a way that did or did not destroy a ton of systems. Our only example of a Mass relay blowing up is from ME2, and that had bad results. these did get destoryed, but maybe in a "safe" way. I have serious doubts this is true, but we just dont know.... (thats half the annoynace with that detail)

it just one of the flaws with the ending. The lact of real difference is another big issue.. (the wave that knocks out normady opens up a whole different can of issues for some other thread)