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[mupp3tz]

So many articles by people who have NO IDEA what's going on. They just smirk and go "Look at those stupid, angry fanboys!" A quick read of some of the threads on BSN will show you that many of those complaining are approaching the situation very intellectually and with good reason to.

[raeting]

Taleroth wrote...

I can respect disagreement. I can't respect dismissal.

Agreed. Or trolling. @BenKuchera... 

[mupp3tz]

It might help our cause if we responded to these types of articles by directing them to a well thought out thread, since they obviously don't know how to do research. For all you know, they might feel sheepish after.

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

detroitmechworks wrote...

Short Version: Fans disagree with the Critics. Critics are better people. Therefore The Critics are right and the fans are wrong. Shut up now.

This.   The critics have spoken!  Silence mortals!

[nitefyre410]

I don't even have to read the article to know this guy does not know what he is talking about.

[Lexagg]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

It might help our cause if we responded to these types of articles by directing them to a well thought out thread, since they obviously don't know how to do research. For all you know, they might feel sheepish after.

Who, those arrogant pricks from Kotaku? Sheepish? Aw come on! They are thinly disguised trolls pretty much. They wouldn't even read it.

[mupp3tz]

Lexagg wrote...

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

It might help our cause if we responded to these types of articles by directing them to a well thought out thread, since they obviously don't know how to do research. For all you know, they might feel sheepish after.

Who, those arrogant pricks from Kotaku? Sheepish? Aw come on! They are thinly disguised trolls pretty much. They wouldn't even read it.

But at least it potentially gives them a better understanding of what's going on.  That it's not about "I wanted little blue babies!" or some other bull****.  It's bigger than that.

[Karrie788]

Dap Brannigan wrote...

You do realize by posting the link here, you're letting people click on it and giving the guy traffic? Which is why people write hack opinionated articles that ****** people off.

Don't even bother reading it.

Any kind of attention is good.

[Doomhams]

This is another, Oh look the ending isn't all magical rainbows and unicorns so these people think the ending is suck. I detect much smug moving in.

The ending was horrible because it had all these different things moving forward and drove them right off a cliff. What was the outcome of the various possibilities of the krogan situation and what of the quarian-geth situation, you know, two points in the game that occupy 3/4 of the play time and have variables coming from two other games.

Not to mention that everything that happens after you are given the choices are wtf random nonsense.

THAT is why they are bad. I went in figuring Shepherd would probably end up dead or dying or no longer around in some way. A sad ending can be a good ending, but this is neither sad nor happy nor even good. It's just terrible.

[raeting]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

It might help our cause if we responded to these types of articles by directing them to a well thought out thread, since they obviously don't know how to do research. For all you know, they might feel sheepish after.

Unlikely. They are every bit as entrenched in their opinion as we are in ours. Assuming they played the game (and they probably did), then they have good reason to think what they do and anything we say isn't going to change it. If they have not played the game, then the human need to save face is pretty remarkable. 

They can also count themselves among some pretty big names. I mean, the guy in charge of game coverage at Penny Arcade liked it, so how could they be wrong? Other reviewers will jump in, too.

[sorentoft]

Best way you can give them a hint is to just not visit the website. I wish people would start making screenshots instead of linking to such people as that way you are just giving them money.

[HighScore 2600]

lasertank wrote...

 www.computerandvideogames.com/339608/features/mass-effect-3s-ending-why-the-backlash-is-idiotic-but-inevitable/

The only thing the write fails to realize in his "football fan" metafores is that is not the same. Not even close. We did not have a role in shaping the ending. Thats what we were upset about.

[Tamcia]

lol article author never heard of journalism 101. Maybe he should finish highs school before attempting to sound smart.

[sorentoft]

Tamcia wrote...

lol article author never heard of journalism 101. Maybe he should finish highs school before attempting to sound smart.

Have you ever heard of tabloids? Or seen the state of media in the US? Journalism as a means of enlightening the people is mostly dead anyway.

Modifié par sorentoft, 12 mars 2012 - 04:13 .

[johhnytrash]

lasertank wrote...

Quote from it:

"but I also hope Bioware takes no notice of it. The fact the response has been so, well, visceral, counts for more than any of the innumerable rewards Mass Effect 3 will hoover up this year. There's no higher accolade than creating something people care so much about that it makes them furious."

So by that logic, The Phantom Menace was the best Star Wars movie and Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull was the best Indiana Jones movie

Article Dismissed!

[JELLAQTP]

Again. Critics have to defend their reviews. If he says the game is a masterpiece and suddenly there is a massive movement against the ending, then his review was wrong. This hurts his reputation.

Sadly, Tim Clark has decided to not really see what all the noise is about. But just dismiss and even attack opinions, converting them on a "we want happy ending". I'm not going to say he has selective ethics or something like that. But at last, seems his journalism work is limited to official sources.

[MPSai]

I wouldn't have been upset that it ended at all if it had given me something satisfactory like the endings of 1 and 2. But for Mass Effect as a series to end with a whimper rather than a bang? And with a scene that represents a major shift in genre and tone as well as lazy writing? No, sorry, I'm not going to accept that.

[JesseLee202]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I say the man has a point. After reading some of the more radical propositions here, I'm getting convinced that any major change would be a lot worse that we've got. I'd settle for a written epilogue for each ending that shows how the galaxy fares after Shepard's decision. And please make it hopeful.

This hallucination theory is such a load of bullsh*t. It would destroy everything that's beautiful about the endings. We don't need major change. We may need some minor adjustment, but mostly we just need a presentation that evokes more positive emotions.

Tell us what is sooo beautiful about the SR2 stranded, Relays gone, and Shep being seperated from his/her LI.

[DarkSpider88]

These critics in their ivory towers can make fun of me all they want. I know when I have just been fed a pile of horse crap for desert after eating a wonderful and satisfying meal.

[Kloborgg711]

Ieldra2 wrote...

This hallucination theory is such a load of bullsh*t. It would destroy everything that's beautiful about the endings. We don't need major change. We may need some minor adjustment, but mostly we just need a presentation that evokes more positive emotions.

It would destroy everything that's beautiful about the endings, you say? You mean we'd get the same cutscene a fourth time, but without color or music?

[Epique Phael767]

Avissel wrote...

detroitmechworks wrote...

Short Version: Fans disagree with the Critics. Critics are better people. Therefore The Critics are right and the fans are wrong. Shut up now.

It's not even that really. Reading this and the article on Kotaku it's more like "They are upset because they want to be upset and think they are entitled to have in end their way."


I dont think I deserve a better ending, I think the series does.

This, a thousand times this.

[OblivionDawn]

Out of touch article writer is out of touch.

Where do they get these guys?

[Kloborgg711]

lasertank wrote...

Quote from it:

"but I also hope Bioware takes no notice of it. The fact the response has been so, well, visceral, counts for more than any of the innumerable rewards Mass Effect 3 will hoover up this year. There's no higher accolade than creating something people care so much about that it makes them furious."

What an arrogant, contradictory-for-the-sake-of-it opinion. Not only does he think the endings were good, he HOPES Bioware doesn't give fans a DLC that thousands want. Even though getting a DLC would not affect him in the slightest, he actually goes out of his way to hope that other people's hopes are crushed. I cannot understand this kind of outlook. It's clear from these kind of articles the reviers and editors seem personally offended in someway, though I can't see how. As has been said, if there's no "higher accolade" than taking advantage of emotional experiences to literally hurt people, I guess parents who shoot puppies in front of children should be getting medals.

[Ultra Prism]

Go check OXM, they said themselves, game is amazing until the ending which didnt make sense and was 95% similar ... that article is rubbish, have you all seen the other post where

[Unit-Alpha]

Ultra Prism wrote...

Go check OXM, they said themselves, game is amazing until the ending which didnt make sense and was 95% similar ... that article is rubbish, have you all seen the other post where

Can't believe OXM actually said that. Wow. I'm impressed.