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[Malakar1]

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

Bioware:  "The ending is awesome, your feeble organic brains are just having trouble understanding it."

Players: "How does the crucible turn every organic creature in the universe into a cyborg?  It doesn't make sense. How does a signal telling the reapers to withdrawl destroy relays and a starship?  How is anyone getting back to their home planets when most advanced technology has been destroyed in the destroy ending?"

Bioware: "This was very clearly explained.  The plans for the crucible were handed down by many cycles worth of organic races.  Their finest wizards and sorcerers imbued it with massive amounts of space magic.  As you are well aware, space magic comes in three varieties.  Thus we had to limit ourselves to only the 3 endings."

Players: "Why would the Normandy be in FTL flight when at the time it was supposed to be engaged in the space battle that was still being waged?"

Bioware:  "Oh come on!  Did you see that cinematic?!?  It's trying to outrun a shockwave!  And you think their dead, but their not!  Michael Bay inspired that scene."

Players: "So the reapers are synthetics who kill organics, to prevent organics form creating synthetics who will kill organics?"

Bioware: "Correct."

Players: "..."

Bioware:  "Glad you finally understand.  Now buy some DLC."

LMFAO

That.

[tommythetomcat]

JeffZero wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

Sorry but if mums the word around here for 2 weeks I don't think I'll really care anymore what they have to say.

This was never going to be fast. This is not surprising in the least - nor is it proof you'll even learn anything new at that time. My advice would be to leave the community until then. Focus on something else which you enjoy.

If only it was so easy to find this thing you call "joy" again maybe that would be possible. 

[mupp3tz]

Unfortunately, I think what this means is more along the lines of: "No worries, space travel can be rediscovered [insert big number] of years from the end of ME3! The reason for the choices is.. blah, blah, blah."

Basically, we get stuck with the same thing we have now.

[Aedan276]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

It's something... a small something, but at least it is something.

It's worse than nothing. They've said that in a month they will engage in a cross-purposed "discussion" (probably an annoucement) about the interpretations of the endings. We get to wait on tenterhooks for a month so that we can fly into a rage when they don't even address the primary issue, which is whether or not they are going add more options or not. 

Modifié par Aedan276, 12 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[Wattoes]

I still cant get over the fact it needs explanation, not to mention how long they are waiting.

I think bioware needs to sit down, brainstorm and come up with a way they can try and make it sound not completely stupid.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Aedan276 wrote...

DarkSpider88 wrote...

It's something... a small something, but at least it is something.

It's worse than nothing. They've said that in a month they will engage in a cross-purposed "discussion" (probably an annoucement) about the interpretations of the endings. We get to wait on tenterhooks for a month so that we can fly into a rage when they don't even address the primary issue, which is whether or not they are going add more options or not. 

I really don't see what there is to interpret. The endings are pretty clear in how it ends. The problem is that the explanations are insane.

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

Nobrandminda wrote...

Shepard himself said it best, as seen in this video:



"I saw... I'm not sure what i saw. Death... destruction... nothing's really clear."

LMAO

[ticklefist]

If your intention is to come on here and explain the endings to us, don't bother. Understanding what you were trying to accomplish was never difficult. It's pretty clear you wanted to leave us with a sense of hope for the galaxy in a new peaceful dark age. You just didn't execute it in a manner that satisfies the audience.

Speaking of satisfying the audience, you could satisfy me in particular if you'd explain something. You have sound clips in the installation files that would indicate that not only did you have plans to end the game differently, but that it's also partially complete. If you want to explain something, explain why you changed course. With all the outcry, explain why you won't use those assets to give your fans a more satisfying ending.

[Linus108]

Wattoes wrote...

I still cant get over the fact it needs explanation, not to mention how long they are waiting.

I think bioware needs to sit down, brainstorm and come up with a way they can try and make it sound not completely stupid.

Best way to save themselves now is to be like: yes...that Indoctrination theory you have all been talking about was our plan all along. The Citadel scene was just a hallucination Shepard had while being indoctrinated.

Modifié par Linus108, 12 mars 2012 - 05:15 .

[Zered]

This is just bull. They would gain much more respect by saying: "Ok the ending sucks, we'll fix it in a dlc. Sorry for the whole thing".

They could make some extra $ whilst we would be happy. Everyone wins.
Instead they will try to come up with explanations that will throw the bsn into a even bigger ****storm. Are they indoctrinated by EA?

[Aedan276]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Aedan276 wrote...

DarkSpider88 wrote...

It's something... a small something, but at least it is something.

It's worse than nothing. They've said that in a month they will engage in a cross-purposed "discussion" (probably an annoucement) about the interpretations of the endings. We get to wait on tenterhooks for a month so that we can fly into a rage when they don't even address the primary issue, which is whether or not they are going add more options or not. 

I really don't see what there is to interpret. The endings are pretty clear in how it ends. The problem is that the explanations are insane.

True, but Bioware has a history of responding to criticism at cross-purposes no matter how strangely it comes across. It's one of the worst things about their public relations strategy. 

Modifié par Aedan276, 12 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[TurambarEA]

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

Bioware:  "The ending is awesome, your feeble organic brains are just having trouble understanding it."

Players: "How does the crucible turn every organic creature in the universe into a cyborg?  It doesn't make sense. How does a signal telling the reapers to withdrawl destroy relays and a starship?  How is anyone getting back to their home planets when most advanced technology has been destroyed in the destroy ending?"

Bioware: "This was very clearly explained.  The plans for the crucible were handed down by many cycles worth of organic races.  Their finest wizards and sorcerers imbued it with massive amounts of space magic.  As you are well aware, space magic comes in three varieties.  Thus we had to limit ourselves to only the 3 endings."

Players: "Why would the Normandy be in FTL flight when at the time it was supposed to be engaged in the space battle that was still being waged?"

Bioware:  "Oh come on!  Did you see that cinematic?!?  It's trying to outrun a shockwave!  And you think their dead, but their not!  Michael Bay inspired that scene."

Players: "So the reapers are synthetics who kill organics, to prevent organics form creating synthetics who will kill organics?"

Bioware: "Correct."

Players: "..."

Bioware:  "Glad you finally understand.  Now buy some DLC."

Lol. Exactly that except that I have one eyebrow firmly raised during that "...".

[Wattoes]

Linus108 wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

I still cant get over the fact it needs explanation, not to mention how long they are waiting.

I think bioware needs to sit down, brainstorm and come up with a way they can try and make it sound not completely stupid.

Best way to save themselves now is to be like: yes...that Indoctrination theory you have all been talking about was our plan all along. The Citadel scene was just a hallucination Shepard had while being indoctrinated.

I wouldn't even be surprised if that happened.

The thing is, that wouldn't even save it entirely.  The whole indoctrination - while possibly - would have been horribly set up and designed. 

If people have to come and read a forum to see what the hell you were doing in a videogame they bought, there is a huge god damn problem.

[Mathias]

I don't want an explanation, i want closure. There's no way i can see them explaining what happened in a way that makes sense. Not to mention if you have to explain your endings, it usually means you did something wrong.

[rvgifford]

A joke isn't funny if you have to explain it, neither are the current endings.

[logan23tom78]

"We have circa. 30,000 people coming out saying that the endings are flawed factually and logically."

From a money stand point, let's say there are many more then 30,000 upset about the ending but they don't go forums they simply don't end up buying any DLC.

Now lets say content DLC like an Omega one is $10.

And say the 30,000 don't buy DLC which if the ending was good,..would have....
that's a lost of $300,000 on just one DLC...now if there are 200,000 people who are a mix of forum and non forum but upset over the ending= they won't buy DLC just because they see no point due to the ending...they are looking at a lost of.... 2 million dollars ...lets say 1 million if you use 100,000 as the pool of players who would have bought content DLC like Omega if the ending was good.

This is just on one DLC content. ...now lets say there are 3 DLC contents like Omega being built now...Your looking at a lost of 3-6 million dollars in loses.

The smart business model is to release what they can call a Director's edition patch which puts in and fixes the ending....

What Bioware has to remember people are not going to buy DLC based on protest,..they are not going to buy because emotionally they feel what is the point.

And I'm one of those who would have bought and wants to but emotionally i feel with the present endings i just can't.

[nitefyre410]

JeffZero wrote...

raeting wrote...

The community manager said she would discuss interpretations of the endings towards the end of the month.

Discuss. Interpretations.

Not official word on what they meant or what they are doing, if anything.

This. And trust me folks, she doesn't get uber-special access to all the writers' brains simply for being awesome. She works for the community, not as a developer.

 

and she is scratching her head as much as  everyone else...

[GaryTheHand]

What happens at the begining of next month... April fools!!!!! Here is your endings... God I so hope this is why they have been quiet all this time.

[hurricaneez2]

The sad thing is that the simplest ending, Shep brings down the Reapers and lives happily ever after with his/her lover, was the one that would have made the fans happy. Bioware for some reason decided they needed to complicate things

[blah64]

alienatedflea wrote...

Xellith wrote...

They are making an annoucement "explaining" the endings. They havent said anything more. I call BS on the whole thing. We dont want an explanation. We want closure.

lol you clearly need an explanation from Bioware (no offense) The endings provide closure to shep's story...just use your head...

Ignoring the rampent plot holes and inconsistencies, sure it wrpas up Shepard's body with a corpse. Nothing wrong with him being dead. I was ready for that. But that doesn't mean we have closure.

[HKR148]

nitefyre410 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

raeting wrote...

The community manager said she would discuss interpretations of the endings towards the end of the month.

Discuss. Interpretations.

Not official word on what they meant or what they are doing, if anything.

This. And trust me folks, she doesn't get uber-special access to all the writers' brains simply for being awesome. She works for the community, not as a developer.

 

and she is scratching her head as much as  everyone else...

If the hallucination theory is true, then that is the only feasible theory behind what happened at the ending as most of us don't see any alternatives to fixing the range of logical problems in the ending. However that means then there was absolutely no true ending in ME3 when this was supposed to be the conclusion of the storyline, which means... Bioware truly lost the plot on what it means to be an ethical producer.

[robarcool]

Xellith wrote...

They are making an annoucement "explaining" the endings. They havent said anything more. I call BS on the whole thing. We dont want an explanation. We want closure.

Same as this

[LolaLei]

Here's my Interpretation: Bull****.

****ty cop out endings.

[robarcool]

alienatedflea wrote...

Xellith wrote...

They are making an annoucement "explaining" the endings. They havent said anything more. I call BS on the whole thing. We dont want an explanation. We want closure.

lol you clearly need an explanation from Bioware (no offense) The endings provide closure to shep's story...just use your head...

A closure that makes a whole lot of logic jumps and breaks the spine of Mass Effect 1. Catalyst controlled the repaers. Why did the repaers need geth to reach the citadel? Why did the catalyst not open the citadel and then the reapers came by? Do you have any answer?

[Linus108]

Wattoes wrote...

Linus108 wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

I still cant get over the fact it needs explanation, not to mention how long they are waiting.

I think bioware needs to sit down, brainstorm and come up with a way they can try and make it sound not completely stupid.

Best way to save themselves now is to be like: yes...that Indoctrination theory you have all been talking about was our plan all along. The Citadel scene was just a hallucination Shepard had while being indoctrinated.

I wouldn't even be surprised if that happened.

The thing is, that wouldn't even save it entirely.  The whole indoctrination - while possibly - would have been horribly set up and designed. 

If people have to come and read a forum to see what the hell you were doing in a videogame they bought, there is a huge god damn problem.

I completely agree with you here. Even IF the indoctrination theory ended up being true, they didn't do a very good job letting the audience know that's what was going on. That their intention was for the Citadel scene to be a hallucination. 

So I think, regardless of what happens, it was poorly executed. It was still an awful set up for a non ending. I don't really think they can fix this, even with DLC that adds more. I hate saying this, but I really think they shot themselves in the foot. People want a real ending DLC. But does that really change the fact that what we got leading up to the DLC was a mess?