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[Gaskets]

Bioware better be reading this!

[Prent62]

I think this is exactly what I wanted from ME3's ending. Absolutely brilliant. Though Shepard never drops the F-Bomb.

Finality wise, I think the Crucible should still be viable options - this is otherwise TOO 'overpowered'.

Shepard dies by default, because I always felt that Red was the "selfish" option. Sacrifice others to save yourself. True renegade.

However, with anything under 5000 EMS, this option will fail, and everyone dies in the following cutscenes. However, each one will be tear jerking sacrifices or heartwarming goodbyes, all still playing along to "An End Once and For All".

Above 5000 EMS, many characters and fleets will die in the same ways. Just because they win, it will only be in the way the turians see a victory: "If one man is standing by the end it's a victory". Not that EVERYONE will die, but the chances of success are "even" as the War Terminal puts it.

Afterwards, on a desolate Earth the LI is seen holding a picture of Shepard and weeping, the united races rebuilding behind him/her, and another of the crew (Joker, James, Garrus etc) are seen placing a hand on their shoulder. (If it's Joker, EDI will be with him if romanced) Then, before the credits, we see the battle-damaged Normandy flying to the forest planet and crash landing. Credits. Buzz Aldrin.

[Rovay]

OdanUrr wrote...

Whatever happened to not being able to win through conventional means?

That. Well, don't get me wrong. The person who wrote this thing is a damn literary genius that should start his own carrier as soon as possible. That level of writing is what I hope will be implemented in the Extended Cut, but this whole 'fourth option' is, in my opinion, just... well, let's just say cheesy and corny and leave it at that. Still, the rest is absolutely great!

[OdanUrr]

Rovay wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Whatever happened to not being able to win through conventional means?

That. Well, don't get me wrong. The person who wrote this thing is a damn literary genius that should start his own carrier as soon as possible. That level of writing is what I hope will be implemented in the Extended Cut, but this whole 'fourth option' is, in my opinion, just... well, let's just say cheesy and corny and leave it at that. Still, the rest is absolutely great!

You have a longer conversation with the Catalyst, I'll give him that, but that's about it. Might as well end the game with Shepard and Anderson looking at Earth and let the battle play out then.

[Quething]

OdanUrr wrote...

Whatever happened to not being able to win through conventional means?

What happened to it is it never really existed. "Shepard, you can't find the Conduit!" "Shepard, you can't beat an asari matriarch!" "Shepard, you can't stop the Collectors!" "Shepard, you can't bring everyone home safe from this suicide mission!" "Shepard, you can't defeat the Shadow Broker!" "Shepard, you can't beat the Reapers with conventional warfare!"

Except then Shepard finds the conduit, and kills Benezia, and blows up Arnold and earns the No One Left Behind chevo, and sets Liara up as the Broker, and nukes a Reaper from orbit and then blows up another one with some tank missiles.

The Reapers were never invlunerable. Ever. Sovvy was afraid to fight the Citadel fleet without geth backup, and it was right to be, because the fleet blew it up. That Klendagon derelict got taken down by a giant railgun. Within the first two hours of ME3 you get a codex entry talking about turian fleets cutting down Reaper capital ships.

It's a heroic epic. Someone saying "you can't do this" isn't some statement to establish the rules of the setting. It's an explicit putting forth of the main character's entirely achievable goal.

[calvinocious]

Leafs43 wrote...

[SiriusXI]

This is quite old, actually. I've read it on Deviantart shortly after I finished the game and was blown away by it. It made me hate the ending we got even more!

[Baa Baa]

It's pretty awesome, I was getting tired of reading it until the child turned into the different characters, that sucked me in pretty quickly. Imagining the child trying to convince Shepard by turning into Anderson, then YOUR LOVE INTEREST, is so haunting and awesome. Plus I really want to be able to say all this to the star child (mostly the cursing)

Modifié par Baa Baa, 14 avril 2012 - 03:34 .

[my Aim is True]

This is amazing.

[Oxtail Soup]

my Aim is True wrote...

This is amazing.

QFT.

[paxxton]

Wow! That's...wow. I really like the part where the Catalyst explains why and how he came up with the solution. But the child's turning into others is cheap.

Modifié par paxxton, 14 avril 2012 - 04:28 .

[mirage2154]

canon，this is the real Shepard in my heart! This is what he would have done! This is the end, for the immortal commander Shepard as long as galaxy exist.

[Ponei]

This read gave me chills, thanks.

[Jeremy Winston]

That was my original thought when I got to the end. That is, I rejected all three options. I sat and waited. Then waited some more. I finally gave up after about 5 minutes, but I was SURE there was a fourth solution.

This proposed ending is really good. I wish it had been the actual ending.

[Galifreya]

I read this too. It's pretty frakking awesome. And exactly what Shepard should have said.

OH LOOK. I swore. And it didn't get asterisked out! Yaaaaay!

Modifié par Gallifreya, 14 avril 2012 - 05:02 .

[Galifreya]

Quething wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Whatever happened to not being able to win through conventional means?

What happened to it is it never really existed. "Shepard, you can't find the Conduit!" "Shepard, you can't beat an asari matriarch!" "Shepard, you can't stop the Collectors!" "Shepard, you can't bring everyone home safe from this suicide mission!" "Shepard, you can't defeat the Shadow Broker!" "Shepard, you can't beat the Reapers with conventional warfare!"

Except then Shepard finds the conduit, and kills Benezia, and blows up Arnold and earns the No One Left Behind chevo, and sets Liara up as the Broker, and nukes a Reaper from orbit and then blows up another one with some tank missiles.

The Reapers were never invlunerable. Ever. Sovvy was afraid to fight the Citadel fleet without geth backup, and it was right to be, because the fleet blew it up. That Klendagon derelict got taken down by a giant railgun. Within the first two hours of ME3 you get a codex entry talking about turian fleets cutting down Reaper capital ships.

It's a heroic epic. Someone saying "you can't do this" isn't some statement to establish the rules of the setting. It's an explicit putting forth of the main character's entirely achievable goal.

Not to mention the fact that if your Galaxy at War % is at a high enough number, it says, "Galactic forces are holding strong and WINNING in key locations."

The Reapers are scared shatless.

Modifié par Gallifreya, 14 avril 2012 - 05:05 .

[SolidisusSnake1]

I love it, however my problem is that I still dont think the Reapers motivation need to be explained. There are supposed to be "Beyond our comprehension", so if they can explain it to me then it is not incomprehensible.

But still this is a much better ending than what we got.

[XTR3M3]

It is really sad that random non-professional people do a better job than the BW writers even using their failed character of the starbrat. What we have here is the difference between stopping and having an ending.

BW's "stopping" is like driving to a destination where the only way they can think of to end the journey and stop the story is to run into a brick wall. that is painful, poorly thought out and abrupt. What the OP has is actually an ending where the journey has you actually applying the breaks and coming to a complete stop on the curb and exiting the vehicle at the destination. You might not like the destination, but at least it works without pain and feeling betrayed by the driver.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Brilliant and well constructed, thank you for re-posting this, for all who want to believe that there is still hope.
Of course this isn't going to be incorporated into our 'Canon' ending, but if you let Marauder Shields save you from the Conduit, you just have to use this as your finale.

Oh yeah, Bioware, saving face or admitting fault?

You can't have both(in the words of Starbrat), you either swallow your pride, and correct what is obviously flawed, or you don't have enough War Assets to save you from the inevitable.


Your choice.

Modifié par ohupthis, 14 avril 2012 - 06:34 .

[OdanUrr]

Quething wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Whatever happened to not being able to win through conventional means?

What happened to it is it never really existed. "Shepard, you can't find the Conduit!" "Shepard, you can't beat an asari matriarch!" "Shepard, you can't stop the Collectors!" "Shepard, you can't bring everyone home safe from this suicide mission!" "Shepard, you can't defeat the Shadow Broker!" "Shepard, you can't beat the Reapers with conventional warfare!"

Except then Shepard finds the conduit, and kills Benezia, and blows up Arnold and earns the No One Left Behind chevo, and sets Liara up as the Broker, and nukes a Reaper from orbit and then blows up another one with some tank missiles.

The Reapers were never invlunerable. Ever. Sovvy was afraid to fight the Citadel fleet without geth backup, and it was right to be, because the fleet blew it up. That Klendagon derelict got taken down by a giant railgun. Within the first two hours of ME3 you get a codex entry talking about turian fleets cutting down Reaper capital ships.

It's a heroic epic. Someone saying "you can't do this" isn't some statement to establish the rules of the setting. It's an explicit putting forth of the main character's entirely achievable goal.

You're ignoring the fact that we're given a superweapon early on as a solution to the problem of defeating the Reapers. What you're saying would make more sense if we were never introduced to the Crucible. While I think the whole Crucible plot would've been a better story for ME2, dismissing it entirely in ME3 is just bad writing. I mean, we're introduced to a superweapon that we don't use? What's the point?

[OH-UP-THIS!]

A "super-something", we were never informed of it's true potential, until some 'ghost' gave us *options*, gad I hate defending this.

[dorktainian]

i just read the OP.

amazing.....simply amazing..... puts the bioware writers to shame.

well done.

[HellishFiend]

I usually dont take the time to read this sort of thing, but this was actually really good!

[Shadrak17]

I never tought that anyone could make the starchild work in any way but this just did. I really love this ending idea. lets just hope bioware is taking notes.

[Bill Casey]

I like that it utilizes most of the current ending in a way that makes sense...