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Vanguard with Liara and Javik is pretty powerful


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Rasputin17

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You could probably sub EDI if you really wanted but I feel this is the most powerful set up for a Vanguard.


1. Stasis is awesome, stop a foe in its tracks and then either shoot them in the head or detonate with Charge.

2. Javik can be upgraded for 20% faster shield recharge that with the boost from Fitness can give you 35% faster shield regen. Liara can increase recharge speed for entire squad by 10%.

3. So many options for biotic combos. Singularity then Slam. Slam and then Warp. Pull then Warp. Dark Channel then Charge. Dark Channel then Slam.

4. Great crowd control with Squad Cryo, Singularity, Pull, Lift Grenade, and Slam.

5. Equip Javik with either Particle Rifle or Chakram both work nice with Cryo Ammo. Equip Liara with either Tempest or Scorpoin. Adding some extra area of effect to the build or a nice way to freeze.

6. Give Shepard Mattock-Tempest-Scmitar or 2 of the 3. Super fast recharge, combos, crowd control. Only real weakness is maybe shields but Stasis can help with that.

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Blue_dodo

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hmm interesting wish I had the dlc
but anyways I tend too use reave although barrier sounds pretty good

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Ok, so I've been wondering about Dark Channel. What powers does it combo with? I think I remember trying it with a couple of different biotic powers and it didn't combo.

The only down side I see to your strategy is trying to quickly strip barriers off of Banshees. Overload seems to do the job much faster than Warp. Is that the scenario where you recommend EDI? When I roll a Vanguard, I will have to try your strategy.

Modifié par SpockLives, 12 mars 2012 - 06:30 .


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Vanguard is so powerful you do not need teammates (on Insanity) at all. If you take Liara and detonate her Singularity/Stasis, it's ridiculously easy. Javik is pretty cool, but I'd recommend Garrus or EDI instead, if you want the uber squad, that is.

Modifié par Kronner, 12 mars 2012 - 06:32 .


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im just starting this combo myself. im gonna do energy drain as bonus power because vanguard is weak against shields.

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SpockLives wrote...

Ok, so I've been wondering about Dark Channel. What powers does it combo with? I think I remember trying it with a couple of different biotic powers and it didn't combo.

The only down side I see to your strategy is trying to quickly strip barriers off of Banshees. Overload seems to do the job much faster than Warp. Is that the scenario where you recommend EDI? When I roll a Vanguard, I will have to try your strategy.



I know Dark Channel will combo with Charge. I think it can be detonated but will not detonate if that makes sense. So, I don't think Singularity and then Dark Channel with detonate.


Yes, the main problem is you don't have Overload but sub EDI at that time. Decoy is awesome as well, as is Incinerate which is why I think Kronner suggests that team. But, I really like that Javik has Dark Channel, and most importantly he can give you 20% shield recharge delay with that and Charge you can never let a foe get at your health. Lift Grenade and Slam can be used in combos and he benefits from Liaras 10% recharge perk. He can also use Chakram Launcher or Particle Rifle to good effect with Cryo Ammo where EDI is stuck with a Pistol or Sub Machine Gun. I am going to take Decoy as my bonus power although I wish I could take Overload.


Is there any certain mission where Overload is a must? 

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sonogi wrote...

im just starting this combo myself. im gonna do energy drain as bonus power because vanguard is weak against shields.




Thats a really good idea but I like Carnage and Decoy alot. Will probably try them all out.

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All you need as a Vanguard is Squaddie 1 (Chain Overload/Energy Drain) + Squaddie 2 (Warp/Reave/Dark Channel). You just charge and while on the way hot key each squaddie and by the time you Nova everything is dead. It trivializes most content on insanity.

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Rasputin17 wrote...

Yes, the main problem is you don't have Overload but sub EDI at that time. Decoy is awesome as well, as is Incinerate which is why I think Kronner suggests that team. But, I really like that Javik has Dark Channel, and most importantly he can give you 20% shield recharge delay with that and Charge you can never let a foe get at your health. Lift Grenade and Slam can be used in combos and he benefits from Liaras 10% recharge perk. He can also use Chakram Launcher or Particle Rifle to good effect with Cryo Ammo where EDI is stuck with a Pistol or Sub Machine Gun. I am going to take Decoy as my bonus power although I wish I could take Overload.


Is there any certain mission where Overload is a must? 


But Liara's Singularity has lower cooldown than your Charge anyway. Garrus' Overload instantly removes shield, allowing you to set up biotic combo immediately. Garrus also deals more damage with his Sniper/AR than Javik. But then again, squad does not really matter that much in ME3. 

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Suggestions for Asari Vanguard build and weapons? ( MP )

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I Tsunayoshi I

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According to the Prima guide, Dark Channel does not combo with any Biotic powers for a Detonation.

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Lumicko wrote...

Suggestions for Asari Vanguard build and weapons? ( MP )


Stasis Bubble and Charge with full shield refill. You can't exploit Nova, but you can create your own biotic explosion.

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

Lumicko wrote...

Suggestions for Asari Vanguard build and weapons? ( MP )


Stasis Bubble and Charge with full shield refill. You can't exploit Nova, but you can create your own biotic explosion.


Stassis for Dmg or longer time,recharge or the other,  rank buble or bonus dmg ? And the other 2 passive skills right ( Fitness, justicar ) fitness for shield/hp and justicar for weapon dmg or power dmg?

Modifié par Lumicko, 12 mars 2012 - 11:26 .


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I took Dark Channel as bonus power for Vanguard.
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It's pretty neat. Everytime the power goes from a dead guy to a new target, you can detonate it again. This means that with two Dark Channels in the battlefield, there are biotic explosions everywhere.

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SNascimento wrote...

I took Dark Channel as bonus power for Vanguard.
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It's pretty neat. Everytime the power goes from a dead guy to a new target, you can detonate it again. This means that with two Dark Channels in the battlefield, there are biotic explosions everywhere.


Must have just ignored my last post in here.

Dark Channel does NOT combo under any conditions. It doesnt set up an explosion. It does not trigger an explosion. It does NOT combo with any biotic powers whatsoever.

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did an insanity playthrough with a vangaurd than an infiltrator. you havent seen easy until you've played an infiltrator with stasis, a valiant and the chakram launcher. you haven't seen STUPID easy until it's a second playthrough with that infiltrator, he's 60 and your valiant and chakram are rank x. why not a widow/black widow? weight and clip size. you never run out of ammo using just concentration/barrel/scope

Modifié par Dixa, 13 mars 2012 - 12:37 .


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The Prima guide you mentioned, Sora, specifically states that Dark Channel does act as a source power for a Biotic combo. I hadn't even noticed the power being on the list until you mentioned it. It just doesn't trigger a detonation, so it can be used as the first power of a combo but not second.

Edited for clarity.

Modifié par SpockLives, 13 mars 2012 - 12:46 .


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Singularity + Lift Grenade. Takes an entire cerberus squad down (insanity)

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Sora Kitano wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

I took Dark Channel as bonus power for Vanguard.
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It's pretty neat. Everytime the power goes from a dead guy to a new target, you can detonate it again. This means that with two Dark Channels in the battlefield, there are biotic explosions everywhere.


Must have just ignored my last post in here.

Dark Channel does NOT combo under any conditions. It doesnt set up an explosion. It does not trigger an explosion. It does NOT combo with any biotic powers whatsoever.


It definitely does dude. I just rolled with Javik on a mission and I was able to create biotic explosions with him. Dark Channel can't trigger the explosion but it definitely works as a setup.

Modifié par PrinceLionheart, 13 mars 2012 - 12:52 .


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Lumicko

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Which skills to add in the Stassis? I mean if Bonus dmg or aoe etc.. :) and is good Stassis + Flag Grenades? ( would use instead of Fitness ) talking about MP Vanguard Asari

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Rasputin17 wrote...
2. Javik can be upgraded for 20% faster shield recharge that with the boost from Fitness can give you 35% faster shield regen. Liara can increase recharge speed for entire squad by 10%.


:blink:

You're a vanguard. What on earth do you want shield recharge for?