Yes, as one or two of the endings maybe. No reason the option should be denied.
Anyone for a ending option were Sheperd is alive and with his or her LI
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:34
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DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...
Please read this. It is a list of the reasons I think the option for a happy ending is just as logical and valid as a bleak one.
Mass Effect is interesting in this requard in that in the three games the player was given control over what he forshadowed. You could choose to have a Shepard who was losing hope and pushing people away or you could shoose to have a Shepard who had hope and was building galaxy that would be better once the Reapers were gone.
If you chose the hopefull options then the bleak ending is out of place and jars with the rest of the story up to that point and does not feel like an extension of it or it's message. If you choose to help the Krogan,make peace between the Quarenians and the Geth,prepose to Laria the story is being set up for a hopeful end where after all the death the galaxy will be left intact and able to rebuild. Get people to work together for just one battle and then cutting them off from each other is out of place in this type of story. If you choose hopeful options like tell your ship's doctor to save the drinks until victory the story is forshadowing a happy ending where there is a victory.
This is why I think having the option of a happy ending is just as logical and adult a conclusion as a bleak ending.
Anyone else agree?
Hold the line for as long as it takes people.
The whole post was awesome Doc and I whole-heartedly agree with you here and why I posted what i did.
One of the things that bothered me is the brandy with Dr. Chakwas. In ME2 she regetted not opening it sooner so they both drank together. This time around I chose the "No, let's wait..." option because I thought he would say that because he really believed they all would make it. Also with all that he did for the Quarians/Geth and Krogans/Turians that is was foreshadowing him to make it through it all. Heck I would have loved to see Wrex make him an honorary krogan. LOL
On a side note, I really enjoyed what they did with EDI and the conversations she had with Shepard. They were precious because in a way I believe he had a huge impact on her programming by what he did and what he said when she asked him questions.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:37
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My Perfect Ending:
Starchild finishes his BS speech and we are left with our "choice." Shepard starts toward the Red area, gun blazing. He picks up his pace firing repeatedly until the station blows and the Crucible fires. Shepard is consumed in the explosion and we, the player, watch as the ground forces cheer the crucible firing and the Reapers falling.
Then we get the cut scene of the Mass Relays all destroying themselves, with the Normandy escaping complete destruction to arrive on some uncharted, unnamed planet with some surviving crew members emerging to “Start Over.”
Back to the ruined streets of London. Pan through the rubble to a man wearing some N7 armor and dog tags. “Gasp!” The person (Shepard) takes a breath and his head rises, but he falls back in agony, clutching his leg where a long piece of rebar is protruding through it (hence the limp in or delusion).
Shepard looks around but can barely see through the blood in his eyes. He can also barely hear sounds due to a loss of hearing from the explosion. But he hears…something. A familiar voice. A concerned voice. A despairing voice.
“Shepard! SHEPARD!” the voice calls. Its more audible now. Clearer. Is it Ashley? Where is she. Then you gasp again and start to remember.
Harbinger! He was here. He hit my squad almost squarely. Almost killed us all. But I went to the Citadel anyway…but how (Shepard looks around. The beam is gone. Harbinger is a dead husk in the distance). And TIM and that child…the one from from my dreams. Both giving me choices that all seemed…wrong. Both telling me that it was all for nothing. Years of fighting, coming back from the dead, forging alliances, all for naught. But I refused. I…I resisted…I…I was almost indoctrinated!
Shepard growls and sits up. Those bastards. ****ing Reapers. Harbinger, TIM. They almost had me. Almost indoctrinated me! I was never there. I wasn’t on the Citadel! But somehow I was the catalyst. I caused the crucible to fire! My resistance. My choice to destroy the Reapers caused it to fire. My god, I just destroyed everything I was fighting for. The relays gone. All my friends and allies stranded!
“Shepard! SHEPARD!” It is Ashely. She has spotted Shepard. She limps forward as fast as she can. Tali trailing behind, supported by Garrus.
“Ash!” we call, and a wave of pain and pleasure engulf Shepard as Ashley throws herself on him.
And now tears. Shepard begins to cry and babble incoherently into Ashely’s shoulder while Garrus tends Shepards leg. He faints for a moment as Garrus lifts his leg from the rebar, the pain too much, but wakes again to cool relief from the Medigel flowing through the leg. The sobbing begins again. Ashely holds Shepard as Tali and Garrus slowly help him to his feet. Garrus gently pushes Ash away and forced Shepard to look at him.
“Shepard! Get ahold of yourself. We need to get out of here. The Reapers are all dead but some of their minions are still alive and fighting. Come on man”
“Why Garrus? What’s the point? I destroyed it all! The Citadel. The Relays. All gone. Everyone’s stranded here.” He turns to Tali. “I’m so sorry. I wanted you so much to be able to build that home on Ranoch.”
They all look at each other, concern in their eyes. Ashely moves forward, tenderly caressing his cheek. “Shepard. What are you talking about? It’s all over the air from Admiral Hackett. The crucible fired. The Crucible sent signals to all the relays. The relays all began to pulse end emitted energies that destroyed the reapers in each system. The Relay's weren’t destroyed. They were weapons the crucible used to destroy the Reapers. Like massive Reaper EMPs”
Sheppard looks at her, confused. Then he hears it. The cheering. He looks around. There is still some gunfire. Still some artillery going off. But it is mostly cheering. Soldiers looking at him and his squadmates. They're waving their guns in the air and cheering them..all of them. They’re all there now, surrounding Shepard and protecting him in a ring of friends, guns pointed out to ward off any remaining Reaper minions. Liara, James, Javik, Grunt, EDI. They’re all there. All there for him as he has been there for them.
Shepard smiles then. And recalls something from his dream. He kisses Ashley and turns to Garrus. “You know what buddy..it’s time I sat down and rested. How about we head to that beach in Rio…”
Pan to the sky where we get another star map of the Mass Relays pulsing and destroying the Reapers in each system. We see soldiers of all races on all worlds wiping out the last of the Reaper minions. We see quick clips of each character, a sort of epilogue if you will: Tali building a home on Ranock, Grunt holding a Krogan baby boy, Liara helping rebuild her world, Edi & Joker working side-by-side on the Normandy, James in N7 training, Anderson being awarded for his service, Garrus sipping a drink at a bar on a beach somewhere and finally Ashley and Shepard lying together on that same beach, end as she smile at Shepard placing his hand on a noticeable bump in her belly.
Too mushy? Obviously you can fill in your own LI & characters as you see fit for your perfect good ending. But honestly, after close to 150 hours of playing in the ME universe and always striving to get the best possible results, I feel I deserve the mushy ending.
Thanks Bioware for completely ruing my entire ME experience as I will NEVER want to play through again (nor buy an DLC) because I CAN’T ACTUALLY GET THIS ENDING! ARGHHHHH!!!!!!
Starchild finishes his BS speech and we are left with our "choice." Shepard starts toward the Red area, gun blazing. He picks up his pace firing repeatedly until the station blows and the Crucible fires. Shepard is consumed in the explosion and we, the player, watch as the ground forces cheer the crucible firing and the Reapers falling.
Then we get the cut scene of the Mass Relays all destroying themselves, with the Normandy escaping complete destruction to arrive on some uncharted, unnamed planet with some surviving crew members emerging to “Start Over.”
Back to the ruined streets of London. Pan through the rubble to a man wearing some N7 armor and dog tags. “Gasp!” The person (Shepard) takes a breath and his head rises, but he falls back in agony, clutching his leg where a long piece of rebar is protruding through it (hence the limp in or delusion).
Shepard looks around but can barely see through the blood in his eyes. He can also barely hear sounds due to a loss of hearing from the explosion. But he hears…something. A familiar voice. A concerned voice. A despairing voice.
“Shepard! SHEPARD!” the voice calls. Its more audible now. Clearer. Is it Ashley? Where is she. Then you gasp again and start to remember.
Harbinger! He was here. He hit my squad almost squarely. Almost killed us all. But I went to the Citadel anyway…but how (Shepard looks around. The beam is gone. Harbinger is a dead husk in the distance). And TIM and that child…the one from from my dreams. Both giving me choices that all seemed…wrong. Both telling me that it was all for nothing. Years of fighting, coming back from the dead, forging alliances, all for naught. But I refused. I…I resisted…I…I was almost indoctrinated!
Shepard growls and sits up. Those bastards. ****ing Reapers. Harbinger, TIM. They almost had me. Almost indoctrinated me! I was never there. I wasn’t on the Citadel! But somehow I was the catalyst. I caused the crucible to fire! My resistance. My choice to destroy the Reapers caused it to fire. My god, I just destroyed everything I was fighting for. The relays gone. All my friends and allies stranded!
“Shepard! SHEPARD!” It is Ashely. She has spotted Shepard. She limps forward as fast as she can. Tali trailing behind, supported by Garrus.
“Ash!” we call, and a wave of pain and pleasure engulf Shepard as Ashley throws herself on him.
And now tears. Shepard begins to cry and babble incoherently into Ashely’s shoulder while Garrus tends Shepards leg. He faints for a moment as Garrus lifts his leg from the rebar, the pain too much, but wakes again to cool relief from the Medigel flowing through the leg. The sobbing begins again. Ashely holds Shepard as Tali and Garrus slowly help him to his feet. Garrus gently pushes Ash away and forced Shepard to look at him.
“Shepard! Get ahold of yourself. We need to get out of here. The Reapers are all dead but some of their minions are still alive and fighting. Come on man”
“Why Garrus? What’s the point? I destroyed it all! The Citadel. The Relays. All gone. Everyone’s stranded here.” He turns to Tali. “I’m so sorry. I wanted you so much to be able to build that home on Ranoch.”
They all look at each other, concern in their eyes. Ashely moves forward, tenderly caressing his cheek. “Shepard. What are you talking about? It’s all over the air from Admiral Hackett. The crucible fired. The Crucible sent signals to all the relays. The relays all began to pulse end emitted energies that destroyed the reapers in each system. The Relay's weren’t destroyed. They were weapons the crucible used to destroy the Reapers. Like massive Reaper EMPs”
Sheppard looks at her, confused. Then he hears it. The cheering. He looks around. There is still some gunfire. Still some artillery going off. But it is mostly cheering. Soldiers looking at him and his squadmates. They're waving their guns in the air and cheering them..all of them. They’re all there now, surrounding Shepard and protecting him in a ring of friends, guns pointed out to ward off any remaining Reaper minions. Liara, James, Javik, Grunt, EDI. They’re all there. All there for him as he has been there for them.
Shepard smiles then. And recalls something from his dream. He kisses Ashley and turns to Garrus. “You know what buddy..it’s time I sat down and rested. How about we head to that beach in Rio…”
Pan to the sky where we get another star map of the Mass Relays pulsing and destroying the Reapers in each system. We see soldiers of all races on all worlds wiping out the last of the Reaper minions. We see quick clips of each character, a sort of epilogue if you will: Tali building a home on Ranock, Grunt holding a Krogan baby boy, Liara helping rebuild her world, Edi & Joker working side-by-side on the Normandy, James in N7 training, Anderson being awarded for his service, Garrus sipping a drink at a bar on a beach somewhere and finally Ashley and Shepard lying together on that same beach, end as she smile at Shepard placing his hand on a noticeable bump in her belly.
Too mushy? Obviously you can fill in your own LI & characters as you see fit for your perfect good ending. But honestly, after close to 150 hours of playing in the ME universe and always striving to get the best possible results, I feel I deserve the mushy ending.
Thanks Bioware for completely ruing my entire ME experience as I will NEVER want to play through again (nor buy an DLC) because I CAN’T ACTUALLY GET THIS ENDING! ARGHHHHH!!!!!!
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:47
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ronbo_68 wrote...
DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...
Please read this. It is a list of the reasons I think the option for a happy ending is just as logical and valid as a bleak one.
Mass Effect is interesting in this requard in that in the three games the player was given control over what he forshadowed. You could choose to have a Shepard who was losing hope and pushing people away or you could shoose to have a Shepard who had hope and was building galaxy that would be better once the Reapers were gone.
If you chose the hopefull options then the bleak ending is out of place and jars with the rest of the story up to that point and does not feel like an extension of it or it's message. If you choose to help the Krogan,make peace between the Quarenians and the Geth,prepose to Laria the story is being set up for a hopeful end where after all the death the galaxy will be left intact and able to rebuild. Get people to work together for just one battle and then cutting them off from each other is out of place in this type of story. If you choose hopeful options like tell your ship's doctor to save the drinks until victory the story is forshadowing a happy ending where there is a victory.
This is why I think having the option of a happy ending is just as logical and adult a conclusion as a bleak ending.
Anyone else agree?
Hold the line for as long as it takes people.
The whole post was awesome Doc and I whole-heartedly agree with you here and why I posted what i did.
One of the things that bothered me is the brandy with Dr. Chakwas. In ME2 she regetted not opening it sooner so they both drank together. This time around I chose the "No, let's wait..." option because I thought he would say that because he really believed they all would make it. Also with all that he did for the Quarians/Geth and Krogans/Turians that is was foreshadowing him to make it through it all. Heck I would have loved to see Wrex make him an honorary krogan. LOL
On a side note, I really enjoyed what they did with EDI and the conversations she had with Shepard. They were precious because in a way I believe he had a huge impact on her programming by what he did and what he said when she asked him questions.
yeah thanks as I said Bioware should not have put any hopefull options in any of the games if they were always only going to give us everyone dies endings.
One of the endings needs to be happy for the choices you made in all three games to make any kind of naritive sense.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:49
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DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...
ronbo_68 wrote...
DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...
Please read this. It is a list of the reasons I think the option for a happy ending is just as logical and valid as a bleak one.
Mass Effect is interesting in this requard in that in the three games the player was given control over what he forshadowed. You could choose to have a Shepard who was losing hope and pushing people away or you could shoose to have a Shepard who had hope and was building galaxy that would be better once the Reapers were gone.
If you chose the hopefull options then the bleak ending is out of place and jars with the rest of the story up to that point and does not feel like an extension of it or it's message. If you choose to help the Krogan,make peace between the Quarenians and the Geth,prepose to Laria the story is being set up for a hopeful end where after all the death the galaxy will be left intact and able to rebuild. Get people to work together for just one battle and then cutting them off from each other is out of place in this type of story. If you choose hopeful options like tell your ship's doctor to save the drinks until victory the story is forshadowing a happy ending where there is a victory.
This is why I think having the option of a happy ending is just as logical and adult a conclusion as a bleak ending.
Anyone else agree?
Hold the line for as long as it takes people.
The whole post was awesome Doc and I whole-heartedly agree with you here and why I posted what i did.
One of the things that bothered me is the brandy with Dr. Chakwas. In ME2 she regetted not opening it sooner so they both drank together. This time around I chose the "No, let's wait..." option because I thought he would say that because he really believed they all would make it. Also with all that he did for the Quarians/Geth and Krogans/Turians that is was foreshadowing him to make it through it all. Heck I would have loved to see Wrex make him an honorary krogan. LOL
On a side note, I really enjoyed what they did with EDI and the conversations she had with Shepard. They were precious because in a way I believe he had a huge impact on her programming by what he did and what he said when she asked him questions.
yeah thanks as I said Bioware should not have put any hopefull options in any of the games if they were always only going to give us everyone dies endings.
One of the endings needs to be happy for the choices you made in all three games to make any kind of naritive sense.
Seriously, depending on some of your past choices, I think enough people did die! Hell everyone could die in ME2!!!
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:55
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Yeah that is what I am saying you lose three friends in this game they didn't have to kill off everyone else including the hero and the last game had an everyone wins ending. Also as i stated Shepard is not the tragic hero and if you choose the mostly paragon path a happy ening is pretty is forshadowed and a bleak ending doesn't make naritive sense.
Hold the line for as long as it takes people.
Hold the line for as long as it takes people.
#482
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:59
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OMG are you guys serious that's the ending's we get? Makes me not want to even finish my game 
#484
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 10:59
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Honestly yes, why can't we have a damn happy ending.
Some of us clearly do want it.
Some of us clearly do want it.
#485
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 11:06
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Crystabella wrote...
OMG are you guys serious that's the ending's we get? Makes me not want to even finish my game
Finish it. Form your own opinion. If you are unhappy, then join us here social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9512916/1 while we have civilized discussions about the ending.
#486
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 11:12
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Yes would like it as a possible option. Kind of thought it was a given going in, but then Bioware decided to throw a curve ball.
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Posté 21 mars 2012 - 01:17
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I think it was more like they decided to throw up all over my best shoes.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar.../user_group.php
Thank you for your time.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar.../user_group.php
Thank you for your time.
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Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:56
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This is a group called "Better ending for Sheperd and love interest" Join up if you haven't!
http://social.bioware.com/group/7054/
Hold the line!
http://social.bioware.com/group/7054/
Hold the line!
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Posté 21 mars 2012 - 01:51
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DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...
I think it was more like they decided to throw up all over my best shoes.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar.../user_group.php
Thank you for your time.
I think you gave us the wrong link (it's just the "your groups" page)
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Posté 21 mars 2012 - 02:03
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There is no reason why if we work for it and set it up one of the endings in a game that is supposed to have many endings can't be happy. please listen to your fans bioware. Keep holding the line people.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.bioware.com/group/7102/
Thank you for your time.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.bioware.com/group/7102/
Thank you for your time.
#491
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 02:12
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Option? Yes. Mandatory? God no. Hard to get? Should be yea.
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Posté 21 mars 2012 - 06:55
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I am still holding the line for the option of a happy ending with LI, as long as it fits the overall tone of the story.
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Posté 21 mars 2012 - 07:05
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Subject M wrote...
I am still holding the line for the option of a happy ending with LI, as long as it fits the overall tone of the story.
Same here.
Hold the line for as long as it takes people.
#494
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 01:40
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I've noticed some people on other forms saying that we are ruining Bioware's artistic style by wanted a better ending. This is simply not the case. The whole artistic style of Mass Effect it that Bioware did something no other company did. They gave you a story that you could literally call your own. That's the artistic side of Mass Effect, that your choices map out your story and your destiny. So if you really want Bioware to keep its artistic style , then pass this message to people saying we are ruining it. Mass Effect is your story not a story as Ive said many times I know. So fight for the ending that makes sense and keeps true to OUR story!
As always hold the line!
As always hold the line!
#496
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:34
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Yes yes yes yes pretty pretty pleaseeee?? Make it as an OPTION to those who desire it, as well as making a horrible ending too. In short, multiple endings of various flavours
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Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:39
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Pretty much my opinionanihilato wrote...
Option? Yes. Mandatory? God no. Hard to get? Should be yea.
#498
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:41
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Mass Effect 3 should end with a sex scene.
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Posté 22 mars 2012 - 02:43
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I personally don't care if Shepard lives or dies, or stays with his/her love interest. I'm totally fine with him/her dying, I almost expected it. My problem with the ending lies with its lack of discussion of what happened with the many parts of the universe after the last events.
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Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:08
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Subject M wrote...
I am still holding the line for the option of a happy ending with LI, as long as it fits the overall tone of the story.
Me as well. Hold the line for this!
