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[Kaidan Fan]

I picked destroy so that all races could advance on their own terms without interference from the reapers and their technology.

[CroGamer002]

Ieldra2 wrote...

BTW, apparently supporting the idea that synthetics are people is Renegade. I got +2 Renegade from supporting Adams in his debate with Chakwas. Does that make any sense to anyone?

You sure it's not +2 Reputation?

[RacingManiac]

 As with the OP, I can't bring myself to do it first time around, I might do it on replay, but I don't see me not agreeing with EDI's evolving character, Geth helping/unifying with Quarian, or Geth achieving individuality. If I choose that just so that Shepard can survive or "escaping indoctornation", it slaps in the face of the choices I've made to that point. Which I guess is the crux of the issue with the ending being a solid meh....

That took out the Destroy for me. And I didn't go with Control because I don't want TIM to be "right".....

[jlb524]

What does happen to the Reapers in Synthesis?

Destroy = dead
Control = controlled by Shepard
Synthesis = they just chill peacefully with the new hybrid form of life?

[jijeebo]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@jijeebo:
The stargazer's words are ambiguous. They don't really indicate anything beyond reasonable doubt. They may indicate that the child *can* go to the stars "one day", meaning when the boy is grown up, they may also indicate that what's there is anyone's guess ("anything that you can imagine") and no one really knows.

If this is really meant to be "civilization is reset" scenario - I'm sure Bioware will explain at some time - then I'll be up in arms about that, but so far the evidence is conflicting.

I'd forgotten exactly what he said, but I'm a tad more hopeful now that the relays actually survive and it's just the presentation that implies this may not be the case.


I could almost handle an ending where Shep dies, but the rest of the galaxy gets to continue as normal + ReaperSheps... At least then the crew aren't stuck in random planet limbo.


Fingers crossed that when Bioware explain, this turns out to actually the case, and perhaps they can patch the ending to make the distinction from the other two clearer.


If not... "Alternate Ending Pack" NAO! <_<

[Sublyminal]

Ieldra2 wrote...

djwhitfield wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...
I've played all endings and in all endings they always explode period. Try paying attention.

 You think I would say this without having triple-checked? Pay closer attention. Particularly to the part where the central part of the Citadel/Crucible is covered by a fireball  - or not - and to the second part of the relay scene where parts fly in all directions. Or not.

You are correct. I just checked the control ending and the Mass Relays are NOT destroyed. They look like there about to explode, but they don't explode. Until they do with the other two endings.

Thank you.

I posted a video of it starting to break up, maybe BW decided it wasn't worth showing it exploding fully, possibly someone getting lazy in the video department. I don't pretend to know what the deal is.

[Brahlis]

The "Destroy" ending will be the canon ending for the series going forward. That you can bank on.

The "you don't see them explode" rationalization is a big reach. Unlike the rest of the ending aspects, it's SPECIFICALLY said what happens to the relays no matter what you choose. You're told they explode. Period.

Modifié par Brahlis, 12 mars 2012 - 08:44 .

[The Angry One]

Brahlis wrote...

The "Destroy" ending will be the canon ending for the series going forward. That you can bank on.

Well that's not really an issue since the series can't go on forward.

[alienatedflea]

Karrie788 wrote...

I picked Destroy, but I see your point. I personally could never pick Merge. It just... feels... wrong. I can't play God and decide of the entire galaxy's fate like that.

I guess only Control is an acceptable option. Is it?

how is merge playing God?  Isn't the reapers too powerful for any one entity to control? I picked merge on my playthrough because destroying the geth is wrong...(they didn't do anything...besides being tricked or "mind controlled" into doing bad things)...I know shepard is a good man/woman but controlling the reapers seem to be too big for anyone person in my opinion.  The only real "safe" option for the greater good is Merge...i mean with control comes power and power comes corruption...

[The Angry One]

Kaidan Fan wrote...

I picked destroy so that all races could advance on their own terms without interference from the reapers and their technology.

That's already happened, unless all current species agree to all kill themselves, this is a moot point and a waste of time.

[Brahlis]

The Angry One wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

The "Destroy" ending will be the canon ending for the series going forward. That you can bank on.

Well that's not really an issue since the series can't go on forward.

Well, it can, just not in the way any of us want I'm betting. Which is really sad and depressing.

[alienatedflea]

The Angry One wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

The "Destroy" ending will be the canon ending for the series going forward. That you can bank on.

Well that's not really an issue since the series can't go on forward.

seies will go on...just without Shepard and friends...

[RavenWoodRCOM]

I pick destruction, but I just pretend the space god was lying when he said EDI, geth, and "most of the technology you depend on" will be destroyed. I've been convinced the ending is a indoctrination attempt by the reapers and the destruction option doesn't actually do anything IRL but instead breaks Harbirnger's hold on Shepard's mind, leaving the real ending to happen after Shepard wakes up in the rubble.

[The Angry One]

alienatedflea wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

I picked Destroy, but I see your point. I personally could never pick Merge. It just... feels... wrong. I can't play God and decide of the entire galaxy's fate like that.

I guess only Control is an acceptable option. Is it?

how is merge playing God?  Isn't the reapers too powerful for any one entity to control? I picked merge on my playthrough because destroying the geth is wrong...(they didn't do anything...besides being tricked or "mind controlled" into doing bad things)...I know shepard is a good man/woman but controlling the reapers seem to be too big for anyone person in my opinion.  The only real "safe" option for the greater good is Merge...i mean with control comes power and power comes corruption...

How is that a safe option?
What's to stop the hybrids from making more synthetics that will kill hybrids?
Then the Reapers (who are still out there) will simply go "We need to preserve hybrids from being killed by synthetics by killing the hybrids" and it all starts over again.

[Kaidan Fan]

The Angry One wrote...

Kaidan Fan wrote...

I picked destroy so that all races could advance on their own terms without interference from the reapers and their technology.

That's already happened, unless all current species agree to all kill themselves, this is a moot point and a waste of time.

Except that technology is now gone and they  have to start over without fear of the reapers punishing them for it in 50k years.

[DXLelouch15]

and you believe a little godchild kid because?

[jijeebo]

Kaidan Fan wrote...

I picked destroy so that all races could advance on their own terms without interference from the reapers and their technology.

If Bioware hadn't thrown the Geth into the deal, imo Destroy would've been the Paragon and logical choice.


But alas, I went with control, because at least every other species gets to continue as normal... And I trust my Shep to control the Reapers in a way that makes them invaluable to the restoration of the galaxy. Heck, he might even just fly them back into dark space and keep an eye on everyone from afar.


... They would, however, be rubbish dancers.

[CavScout]

Ieldra2 wrote...

NPH11 wrote...
People have picked Destroy and have still had EDI walk out of the Normandy.

I'd want to see firsthand evidence of this before I believe it.

Really would this matter? You are being shown the relays and still cling to your assertions....

[Bigdoser]

eh i went for destory the child says that destory will kill me but low and behold I am still alive as my renegade shepard said trying to control/compromise with the reapers is a sure fire way to get yourself indoctrinated. I personally think legion would approve of the destory ending if you remember the conversation you had with him at the end of me2 if you destroyed the base. Plus going for control or synthesis in my opinion is you agreeing with the catalyst and I personally think he is full of **** and is trying to indoctrinate shepard.

[Kaidan Fan]

jijeebo wrote...

Kaidan Fan wrote...

I picked destroy so that all races could advance on their own terms without interference from the reapers and their technology.

If Bioware hadn't thrown the Geth into the deal, imo Destroy would've been the Paragon and logical choice.


But alas, I went with control, because at least every other species gets to continue as normal... And I trust my Shep to control the Reapers in a way that makes them invaluable to the restoration of the galaxy. Heck, he might even just fly them back into dark space and keep an eye on everyone from afar.


... They would, however, be rubbish dancers.

I guess I felt like the child was trying to push me into the control or merge endings, so I didn't necessarily believe it when it said that all synthetics would perish if I picked destroy.  In other words I felt like he was trying to disuade me from destroying. So thats what I did  

[jijeebo]

Kaidan Fan wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Kaidan Fan wrote...

I picked destroy so that all races could advance on their own terms without interference from the reapers and their technology.

If Bioware hadn't thrown the Geth into the deal, imo Destroy would've been the Paragon and logical choice.


But alas, I went with control, because at least every other species gets to continue as normal... And I trust my Shep to control the Reapers in a way that makes them invaluable to the restoration of the galaxy. Heck, he might even just fly them back into dark space and keep an eye on everyone from afar.


... They would, however, be rubbish dancers.

I guess I felt like the child was trying to push me into the control or merge endings, so I didn't necessarily believe it when it said that all synthetics would perish if I picked destroy.  In other words I felt like he was trying to disuade me from destroying. So thats what I did  

I think the little fecker indoctrinated me through my tv, cuz I never even considered the possibility that it was lying or misleading me... I just rolled with what it told me.

[Mizar_Panzar]

I have heard rumors that you can STILL see EDI and joker hugging after choosing destroy.

So whatever the the ghost says about geths and other synthetics being wiped out is a complete lie, the same way as he painted Anderson as 'renegade' and TIM as 'paragon'.

[AtreiyaN7]

Indeed, I felt quite similarly to you - that's why I picked the synthesis ending. After interacting with Legion, the Geth and EDI all this time, and seeing them achieve true personhood (and displaying true humanity), I thought it would be a terrible thing to throw that away. They proved to me that there was no need for division and that we are not inherently superior or more special by virtue of our biology.

[Plasma Prestige]

 Sacrifices.

In the end, do you choose to destroy all synthetic life to finally grant freedom to organics from the threat of the Reapers and give them the opportunity to live, or do we save the organics and abandon the mission we united the galaxy for in order to preserve the synthetics.

Not so cut and dry.

[Mizar_Panzar]

Mizar_Panzar wrote...

I have heard rumors that you can STILL see EDI and joker hugging after choosing destroy.

So whatever the the ghost says about geths and other synthetics being wiped out is a complete lie, the same way as he painted Anderson as 'renegade' and TIM as 'paragon'.

Also, I don't have a problem with relays being destroyed as long as they dont cause a supernova explosion in the same way as you slam an asteroid into them. Initially, they are a trap set by the reapers so that the races would 'follow the path they desire'. If you want to break their stranglehold, you have to destroy what is a integral part of their trap.

And the protheans made the conduit, I'm sure eventually we will have galactic civilisation again. Even if we don't, the bottom line is, we survived. That beats having billions melted into DNA milkshake, alive, again, for the 5031th time.