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I am pretty upset that ALL of the male romances in ME2 carried over, but only ONE carried over for femshep...am I supposed to be okay with this because they added female characters that I can romance instead?  It is complete crap!

It feels like even femshep has been considered from a "what men would like to see" angle, since I can't continue my romance with thane, but I can go screw diana or the secretary chick.  2 out of the 10 options are practical for a straight femshep...TWO.  Why couldn't you take the time to include Thane and Jacob and leave out the uninspired and random new characters that are clearly in place as a sexy lesbian pursuit? 

I am devastated by this right now and almost don't even want to continue with the game.  :(  It is beyond unfair and I feel like I've been screwed over completely.

thanks alot for breaking my heart bioware.

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Soma Holiday wrote...

I am pretty upset that ALL of the male romances in ME2 carried over, but only ONE carried over for femshep...am I supposed to be okay with this because they added female characters that I can romance instead?  It is complete crap!

It feels like even femshep has been considered from a "what men would like to see" angle, since I can't continue my romance with thane, but I can go screw diana or the secretary chick.  2 out of the 10 options are practical for a straight femshep...TWO.  Why couldn't you take the time to include Thane and Jacob and leave out the uninspired and random new characters that are clearly in place as a sexy lesbian pursuit? 

I am devastated by this right now and almost don't even want to continue with the game.  :(  It is beyond unfair and I feel like I've been screwed over completely.

thanks alot for breaking my heart bioware.




All of this!!  Welcome to our pain.  Posted Image

As was said in another thread - the greeting drinks are in the lobby

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Cosmochyck wrote...


All of this!!  Welcome to our pain.  Posted Image

As was said in another thread - the greeting drinks are in the lobby


I had a feeling I couldn't be the only one appalled by this, but I've been trying to avoid looking through the threads since I haven't finished the game yet...however, I felt livid enough to start my own so I could get help coping from someone, anyone.  :crying:  You will have to restock that bar soon, I'm going to finish off all of it...

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Can I join too? I mean I love my Gaarus/shep pairing but I can't do that every playthrough right? Also, I miss Thane..

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*slams drinking glass onto the bar*

Come, sit down. Have a pint. Or twelve. Let's reminice the good times that was FemShep romance. Just had to kill Jacob in my primary Femshep playthrough. It's sad when you have a character that is better to kill off in the previous game than leave him as he is in the next. Never felt like I was treated badly by Bioware writers until now. This is going to take some time to get over. And the resentment is permanent, I think.

*takes another drink, starts a bad, poorly performed bar song*

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 12 mars 2012 - 08:35 .


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Exactly! It does seem to be unfair that so many of FemShep's LIs are treated poorly compared to the choices available for the storylines of MaleShep's LIs.

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CastonFolarus wrote...

*slams drinking glass onto the bar*

Come, sit down. Have a pint. Or twelve. Let's reminice the good times that was FemShep romance. Just had to kill Jacob in my primary Femshep playthrough. It's sad when you have a character that is better to kill off in the previous game than leave him as he is in the next. Never felt like I was treated badly by Bioware writers until now. This is going to take some time to get over. And the resentment is permanent, I think.

*takes another drink, starts a bad, poorly performed bar song*


*pours twelve pints into the sink and attempts to drown myself in it* :blink:

I haven't even seen Jacob yet but even though I didnt romance him I can already tell that he's been unfairly treated also. Why would they do this? I sincerely can't understand how devoting development time to make new gay characters that have no prior inventment from fans won out over developing continued stories for character we already grew to love...why not just make some of the old characters suddenly open to same-sex relationships, that way everyone would have been happy...

And considering thane apparently dies, I guess I would have been better off letting him die in 2 also...I guess my shep will just be forever alone because Bioware clearly has no regard for my emotional attachments. They sure as hell want my shepard to be lesbian though...WTF Bioware.

Modifié par Soma Holiday, 12 mars 2012 - 09:07 .


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*pulls up a stool* Yeah I feel done by this as well. Loved the story Bioware, just did you really think we wouldn't notice the lack of most straight potential males? Why did they give maleShep all the fun? FemShep needs boys too.

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It's a complete disgrace, not ONE of the Maleshep LIs gets the shaft, while TWO femshep ones do!!! In addition MShep gets an additional 3 options (all SS) while Fshep only gets ONE leaving her with only Kaidan or Garrus as the straight options.

Can you IMAGINE the outcry if Tali broke it off with Shepard because Kal Reeger had got her pregnant? I think Tali and Kal are a better couple than Shep and Tali but I wouldn't want my views (as I'm no fan of Tali) imposed upon those fans that truly care. What about making Miranda die as part of the canon? BW didn't do this because they had a nice soft minority target in us, they even shafted our LIs to pander to those who don't really give a damn about the character.

oooo sorry, I just cant stop ranting ***reaches for the rum***

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not to mention the only new male LI romance you can start is with kaidan

seriously, bioware, one option, when you kill off one ME2 LI and inexplicably character assassinate another? i honestly don't understand the reasoning behind this (there probably wasn't any)

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wildannie wrote...

It's a complete disgrace, not ONE of the Maleshep LIs gets the shaft, while TWO femshep ones do!!! In addition MShep gets an additional 3 options (all SS) while Fshep only gets ONE leaving her with only Kaidan or Garrus as the straight options.

Can you IMAGINE the outcry if Tali broke it off with Shepard because Kal Reeger had got her pregnant? I think Tali and Kal are a better couple than Shep and Tali but I wouldn't want my views (as I'm no fan of Tali) imposed upon those fans that truly care. What about making Miranda die as part of the canon? BW didn't do this because they had a nice soft minority target in us, they even shafted our LIs to pander to those who don't really give a damn about the character.

oooo sorry, I just cant stop ranting ***reaches for the rum***


jack was also suffering from mental deterioration due to her biotics and was slated to die as thane was (they were mirror'd as ashley and kaidan were, i think), but this was swept under the rug for whatever reason

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wildannie wrote...


Can you IMAGINE the outcry if Tali broke it off with Shepard because Kal Reeger had got her pregnant?

oooo sorry, I just cant stop ranting ***reaches for the rum***


EXACTLY!!  You would NEVER see that in the game! It's completely unfair!  It's like their priorities were to ****** us off above all else, then offer lots of sexy situations for maleshep and men playing femshep.  You can't honestly tell me they didn't know they would be getting this type of reaction, but I guess since they view us as the minority (no matter how devoted we were to this game) our wants are insignificant.

*breaks bottle over bar and insights outcry to storm bioware and get our LIs back* :ph34r:

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Can someone list all the possible romances between male and female HETERO Shepard?

Cause as far as I can tell, you are damn right OP.

I've said this before...

I would have gladly romanced
-Kal Reegar (Was very cool and I have it out for minor characters.)
-James Vega (...All the scripting makes it out he SHOULD have been a LI. WTF Bioware?)
-Joker (Half of me calls stupidity for the whole Joker/EDI thing and Im so sorry Joker/Shep fans.)
-Grunt (You sold me at "Steve Blum".)
-Adams (Would have been interesting as redemption for hating Shep in Cerberus.)
-Hackett (You damn right I like em older)
-Bailey (I can play the stepmom role if need be...)

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Bioware made a troll face when they said that they were going to give FemShep the same amount of fariness as MaleShep.

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Femmefatality07 wrote...

Can someone list all the possible romances between male and female HETERO Shepard?

Cause as far as I can tell, you are damn right OP.

I've said this before...

I would have gladly romanced
-Kal Reegar (Was very cool and I have it out for minor characters.)
-James Vega (...All the scripting makes it out he SHOULD have been a LI. WTF Bioware?)
-Joker (Half of me calls stupidity for the whole Joker/EDI thing and Im so sorry Joker/Shep fans.)
-Grunt (You sold me at "Steve Blum".)
-Adams (Would have been interesting as redemption for hating Shep in Cerberus.)
-Hackett (You damn right I like em older)
-Bailey (I can play the stepmom role if need be...)


From what I can tell...

Hetero Male :  Ashley, Liara, Tali, Miranda, Jack, Diana
Hetero Femshep:   Kaiden, Garrus.

We get a THIRD of options. WTFF!!!??

(and no body give me crap about Liara not technically being a girl cause she has ****** therefore she's a ladyperson.)

But luckily lezzie femshep gets Liara, Diana, and that new secretary chick, so I guess we can all be happy right? Cause that fairly evens things out!  Cause clearly all us girls really do want to explore with sexy other females at heart because its hot and turns guys on...I'm just assuming that's what Bioware was thinking at least.

TIS BULLCHIT!!!

I would have welcomed more romances but I am more upset that they left out Thane and Jacob even though all the LIs for men in 2 were included no question...

Modifié par Soma Holiday, 12 mars 2012 - 10:42 .


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I mean, who wouldn't wanna romance this? Bioware where did all our men go. Tho I only need Garrus, so I'm ok :P

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Have to say, since visiting Thane in hospital I have lost the will to fight the reapers. I felt so bereaved, I couldn't stop thinking that it would've been kinder to both of them if I let Thane die in the final mission of ME2...

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Soma Holiday wrote...

Femmefatality07 wrote...

Can someone list all the possible romances between male and female HETERO Shepard?

Cause as far as I can tell, you are damn right OP.

I've said this before...

I would have gladly romanced
-Kal Reegar (Was very cool and I have it out for minor characters.)
-James Vega (...All the scripting makes it out he SHOULD have been a LI. WTF Bioware?)
-Joker (Half of me calls stupidity for the whole Joker/EDI thing and Im so sorry Joker/Shep fans.)
-Grunt (You sold me at "Steve Blum".)
-Adams (Would have been interesting as redemption for hating Shep in Cerberus.)
-Hackett (You damn right I like em older)
-Bailey (I can play the stepmom role if need be...)


From what I can tell...

Hetero Male :  Ashley, Liara, Tali, Miranda, Jack, Diana
Hetero Femshep:   Kaiden, Garrus.

We get a THIRD of options. WTFF!!!??

(and no body give me crap about Liara not technically being a girl cause she has ****** therefore she's a ladyperson.)

But luckily lezzie femshep gets Liara, Diana, and that new secretary chick, so I guess we can all be happy right? Cause that fairly evens things out!  Cause clearly all us girls really do want to explore with sexy other females at heart because its hot and turns guys on...I'm just assuming that's what Bioware was thinking at least.

TIS BULLCHIT!!!

I would have welcomed more romances but I am more upset that they left out Thane and Jacob even though all the LIs for men in 2 were included no question...


Wow. That IS insane. C'mon. I support my better half tapping Miranda and Morrigan. Kaidan was alright, and I've got nothing but love for my Turian bro4life...BUT DAMN!

Give me an outlet too! I don't have a muscular guy with a sexy voice or sexy looks in real life. **** this, Im going back to replaying the hell out of Dragon Age. Alistair, I'm so glad you exist.

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Yes, but you must remember femShep was used as a marketing gimmick, so all is good and equal! *scoffs*

This is already being discussed at social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/9766428 , and yes it's rather silly. I went through the whole game with a Kaidan-dead-at-Virmire import and literally no-one to romance. I couldn't even have Garrus, for reasons never explained. Joker basically told me to f-off, and James lost his bravery at the last hurdle.

Oh the pity! *faints* :P

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Arahnea wrote...

Can I join too? I mean I love my Gaarus/shep pairing but I can't do that every playthrough right? Also, I miss Thane..


Of course you can. I never do anything else :P

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So basically she is left with just a bisexual human and an alien for male LIs. These are not even desirable choices for some.

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Yea femshep really got screwed over.
Jacob goes off to marry someone else and thane dies.

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Fuzzfro wrote...

Yea femshep really got screwed over.
Jacob goes off to marry someone else and thane dies.


I'm suprised they didn't give femshep a renegade interrupt to shoot herself at the end with all this disapointment.

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I just finished my first playthrough of ME3 yesterday.
I romanced Kaidan.
It was story-line brought all the way from ME1.
I was very disappointed with ME2 not including Kaidan.
Just a quick visit on a planet where he scolds FemShep.
Then an email.
And that's it for the entire game.
From all of our disappointment came promises that ME3 would make up for it.
I must say - there was much improvement to this script in ME3 - concerning the Kaidan romance and including him in the game.
However, I wish I could have written the script.
I wish I could have added all the conversations with all of their options that I could think up - that would have been such a benefit to the experience.
A deep sigh over here.
Maybe straight female gamers are a minority or maybe not...
Maybe we all need to raise our voices so that they will be heard.
Instead of just griping -
Lets tell game developers what we want.
Let's list all the details with example conversations and send them to script writers working on games.
Let's tell them where our disappointments lie, but also share what we want, how they can make it a better experience for their female gamer customers.
Start blogs - raise your voices!

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The ironic thing is that that homosexual males got more new options then a heterosexual female. Interesting...