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[PaladinMesser]

Taiyoroku wrote...

PaladinMesser wrote...

wizkid1696 wrote...

So, all over the interwebz, ive seen non-stop moaning about these endings, and even organized groups to protest it.

I mean, jeez, what in the world....

So please, tell me. Is it REALLY that bad, and if you can without spoilers, what about it is so awful? Are knots not tied up? Does it leave too much to the imagination? Is the final level just really stupid?


Please,  I must know.

Yes it is that bad! I've seen all 3 of the supposed 16 endings

.... The only game in my life with that kind or amout of endings was Chrono Tigger... here i only see 3 and yes your choises doesn't matter.... and yes only 3 lights... matrix style!

Right, I didnt mean that there were actually 16 endings just that in dev interviews during production they talked about the multitude of endings somewhere at some point they gave 16 as the number of possible endings. " I've seen all 3..." The way i phrased it was to show that there are not 16 but only three which are really only one ending with different color lights.

[Joe920]

It is that bad and having paid $70+ for the game and DLC, I/we are entitled to an ending that is not as uninspired as this one.

Bad Bioware! Bad! (smack on the nose with a rolled up newspaper)

On the other hand, 90% of the game had exceptional gameplay and was very well done.

Good Bioware! (here's a snausage)

Modifié par Joe920, 13 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[walcol]

Joe920 wrote...

It is that bad and having paid $70+ for the game and DLC, I/we are entitled to an ending that is not as uninspired as this one.

Bad Bioware! Bad! (smack on the nose with a rolled up newspaper)

On the other hand, 90% of the game had exceptional gameplay and was very well done.

Good Bioware! (here's a snausage)

Agree completely, see my post above.  The excellence of ME (all of them) up to this point makes the crappy writing at the end a thousand times more deflating.  How can they not realize how completely off-track they were?

Oh wait -- Dragon Age 2, anyone?

Someone at EA is making some really stupid decisions.

[Altered Idol]

I've not yet managed to play the game but thanks to a loud-mouthed friend of mine, the ending has been well and truly ruined for me. Given what happens and the lack of any real meaning, I'm not even sure I'll keep the game now. I've invested 5 years into this series and given how its ended, all I feel is hollow and despondant.

The strength of Mass Effect has been the emotional attachment to the characters and the feeling that the story unfolds as you wish it too. To have that taken away in the last 10 minutes, to have 100+ hours of gameplay rendered meaningless is just too much for me.  To have such limited options frankly disgusts me, to not even have the option of a  truly happy/good ending is just plain wrong.

I cannot bring myself to play the first two games anymore, given how it all ends up eventually. No longer will I buy titles because I trust in Bioware given their stellar history of games. This has ruined one of the most promising series I've ever played.

[Spectre_Shepard]

wizkid1696 wrote...

So, all over the interwebz, ive seen non-stop moaning about these endings, and even organized groups to protest it.

I mean, jeez, what in the world....

So please, tell me. Is it REALLY that bad, and if you can without spoilers, what about it is so awful? Are knots not tied up? Does it leave too much to the imagination? Is the final level just really stupid?


Please,  I must know.

All of the above, actually.

[PirateLawyer]

akasheppy wrote...

I for one think the entire ending was one story arc left dangling in the air. Given what we know about certain elements in the ME universe vital to interspace travel (a fact proven in a DLC), there is a major glaring problem with how it ended...

My wife had the same idea due to what each choice seems to be doing to the galaxy. However, my counter for that would be an intended function. In the DLC (if I'm thinking of the same one), an outside effect was used. With ME3's endings, it seems more like something planned ahead of time. I think the complexity of the action itself also lends to the idea of an intended function.

[tetrisblock4x1]

The ending is just weird and totally out of character for Bioware. It's basically the equivalent of having Sean Connerys 007 show up in the final hour of the Transformers trilogy and having the tone of the plot go from deceptacons vs autobots to a James Bond movie where he's playing detective and seducing women.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 13 mars 2012 - 05:31 .

[TheSnappyDude]

  even though the ending makes 0 sense in so many ways everything but those final 5 to 10 mins is pretty amazing and near perfect

[walcol]

Interesting how many people say they don't want to play ME3 again. Despite the great action set-pieces along the way. EA/Bioware didn't really think about this, did they? The ending is so badly misconceived that it just leaves you wanting to walk away from the whole sorry MEss.

Can't believe I'd ever write that. Talk about nuking the golden goose.

[Altered Idol]

walcol wrote...

Interesting how many people say they don't want to play ME3 again. Despite the great action set-pieces along the way. EA/Bioware didn't really think about this, did they? The ending is so badly misconceived that it just leaves you wanting to walk away from the whole sorry MEss.

Can't believe I'd ever write that. Talk about nuking the golden goose.

I haven't even played it once yet but I'm seriously considering sending my copy back after the ending was ruined for me. I just can't find any motivation to play the game or the first two for that matter. Knowing that it all counts for practically nothing in the end simply removes any semblence of motivation for me and renders any future playthroughs as effectively meaningless.

One of the most promising game series is effectively ruined by the final 10 minutes. Sad.

Modifié par Altered Idol, 13 mars 2012 - 05:38 .

[walcol]

Altered Idol wrote...

walcol wrote...

Interesting how many people say they don't want to play ME3 again. Despite the great action set-pieces along the way. EA/Bioware didn't really think about this, did they? The ending is so badly misconceived that it just leaves you wanting to walk away from the whole sorry MEss.

Can't believe I'd ever write that. Talk about nuking the golden goose.

I haven't even played it once yet but I'm seriously considering sending my copy back after the ending was ruined for me. I just can't find any motivation to play the game or the first two for that matter. Knowing that it all counts for practically nothing in the end simply removes any semblence of motivation for me and renders any future playthroughs as effectively meaningless.

Fair enough but please -- it's a great GAME.  With a ****ty ENDING.  Play it and ME2, they're well worth it.  Don't worry about what it all means, because what it all means is that they're crap (filmic) writers.  They're great game writers!  They just got seriously / pretentiously out of their depth.

We all want to know with every story "what happens in the end."  But in this case, it's the journey that matters not the destination.  Great journey, via Paradise and Mars -- you just end up in Pittburg.

[walcol]

Note, not PittSburg.

Shoulda been The Pitts Burg

[jtrook]

Without spoilers, The, lore, the worlds, characters and everything else was just destroyed. Our "legend" is now just a bed time fairly tale that if true has more plot holes then a b list movie. I guess we wanted more closure then we got.

[walcol]

jtrook wrote...

Without spoilers, The, lore, the worlds, characters and everything else was just destroyed. Our "legend" is now just a bed time fairly tale that if true has more plot holes then a b list movie. I guess we wanted more closure then we got.

Very true sir.  Serves us right for falling for their enticing tale, huh?

[Altered Idol]

walcol wrote...

Altered Idol wrote...

walcol wrote...

Interesting how many people say they don't want to play ME3 again. Despite the great action set-pieces along the way. EA/Bioware didn't really think about this, did they? The ending is so badly misconceived that it just leaves you wanting to walk away from the whole sorry MEss.

Can't believe I'd ever write that. Talk about nuking the golden goose.

I haven't even played it once yet but I'm seriously considering sending my copy back after the ending was ruined for me. I just can't find any motivation to play the game or the first two for that matter. Knowing that it all counts for practically nothing in the end simply removes any semblence of motivation for me and renders any future playthroughs as effectively meaningless.

Fair enough but please -- it's a great GAME.  With a ****ty ENDING.  Play it and ME2, they're well worth it.  Don't worry about what it all means, because what it all means is that they're crap (filmic) writers.  They're great game writers!  They just got seriously / pretentiously out of their depth.

We all want to know with every story "what happens in the end."  But in this case, it's the journey that matters not the destination.  Great journey, via Paradise and Mars -- you just end up in Pittburg.

Oh I love ME 1 and ME 2, I just meant I struggled to motivate myself to play them again.

I might do.  Haven't really made up my mind. Have been looking forward to this for months and to have it spolied for me is really annoying. Then to find out what the ending is really like is just kicking a man when he's down.

I absolutely loved the journey over the first two games and from what I've read, I'll probably love the journey in ME3. But the destination has got to be worth visiting in the end, or else whats the motivation. Whats the point if nothing you do really matters in the end.

Video games are a great escape from the drudgery of the real world for me. Therefore a bit of escapism shouldn't be out of line. To not even have a chance of a happy ending negates any sort of positive playthrough. Doesn't matter if I play a Paragon or Renegade, it all ends up effectively the same.

Its' like watching Star Wars and in the final scenes, the Emperor wipes out the entire galaxy with some tripped out Sith Mind Blast or something. Doesnt matter how great the films were, the ending would suck if it was like that.

And that is why I'm on the fence about ME3

Modifié par Altered Idol, 13 mars 2012 - 05:48 .

[MegaBadExample]

I'm just saying, there should have been the option for people to get their happy ending when players have invested so much time, money and hours into Mass Effect. Now, if we want that happy ending, I assume we'll have to pay for it somwhere down the line? Pay for something that should've been included in the first place...

The sad thing is I would probably pay for it too. I hated the ending that much.

[bleachorange]

MegaBadExample wrote...

The sad thing is I would probably pay for it too. I hated the ending that much.

Unfortunately, I completely understand. I'm currently working under the 'indoctrination theory'. Otherwise, I'd lose all heart.

[garf]

wizkid1696 wrote...

So, all over the interwebz, ive seen non-stop moaning about these endings, and even organized groups to protest it.

I mean, jeez, what in the world....

So please, tell me. Is it REALLY that bad, and if you can without spoilers, what about it is so awful? Are knots not tied up? Does it leave too much to the imagination? Is the final level just really stupid?


Please,  I must know.

It is that bad. It took a franchise I'd invested hours in and casually tossed it in the dumpster. I have a thin vain hope that the ending are an elaborate troll and there is more to come but it is thin and vain.

Without doing any spoilers the the ending is weak, empty, out of character, and out of left field. It also leaves you wondering which of your choices actually mattered. Certainly not the very last one.

[Hatire]

I just finished the game, nearly 40 hours of gameplay and all of it but the last 10 minutes of it was amazing. I am utterly disappointed and just amazed that BioWare really could have thought that was in any way a satisfying set of ending(s). Just floored at the crappiness of it.

[slackbheep]

Everything up to the finale was stellar. However it's an incredible disappointment that manages to color the entire series as pointless in your mind.

[bleachorange]

It's like watching the Lord of the Rings and Frodo can either:  keep the ring and use it; throw the ring into the lava; or forge the ring into another object of power to control Sauron. And no matter what you choose, the mountain explodes, and everything that was alluded to previously was made pointless. (BTW, wasn't my idea of re-forging the ring to control Sauron awesome! I totally stole that from Bioware, just like they did with ME3 and Deus Ex Machina).

Modifié par bleachorange, 13 mars 2012 - 06:49 .

[Da_Lion_Man]

I finished the game yesterday myself, it's not very good but you can prepare yourself for it... you'll probably get your suspension of disbelief crushed and you'll be left with unanswered questions. The only kind of defense I can form for it, is the 'I've seen worse' argument.
In a way, it reminded me of the final boss of Final Fantasy IX, you beat the bad guy, then all of a sudden a gigantic monster that is apparently important to the plot appears out of nowhere and wants to kill you.

It certainly doesn't deserve all the attention it gets on the internet though. That's just ridiculous.
At least the cinematics and soundtrack were excellent and so were the *slight spoilers!* flashbacks of some of your crew.

[wright1978]

Yep ending is utterly appalling. No diversity at all.

[AkiKishi]

wizkid1696 wrote...

So, all over the interwebz, ive seen non-stop moaning about these endings, and even organized groups to protest it.

I mean, jeez, what in the world....

So please, tell me. Is it REALLY that bad, and if you can without spoilers, what about it is so awful? Are knots not tied up? Does it leave too much to the imagination? Is the final level just really stupid?


Please,  I must know.

Yes it's really that bad. It pretty much fails on every possible level as an ending and for a game which claimed to have "many different endings" that is at best a half truth.