The Razman wrote...
kbct, I've yet to see you offer any constructive opinion regarding why it "sucks".
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
wizkid1696 wrote...
So, all over the interwebz, ive seen non-stop moaning about these endings, and even organized groups to protest it.
I mean, jeez, what in the world....
So please, tell me. Is it REALLY that bad, and if you can without spoilers, what about it is so awful? Are knots not tied up? Does it leave too much to the imagination? Is the final level just really stupid?
Please, I must know.
Have you actually typed up your own reasons at any point?kbct wrote...
The Razman wrote...
kbct, I've yet to see you offer any constructive opinion regarding why it "sucks".
You can look at Mx_CN3's list of reasons in this thread or you can check out the hundreds of fan reviews in the spoiler section sticky. It's all been said. No need for excessive typing on my part.
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
RocketManSR2 wrote...
Darth Malignus wrote...
Without spoilers: The last 15 minutes are a travesty and takes everything you build up in all the 3 games and reduces it to a game of "What's behind the 3 doors?". Blatant rip-off of Matrix Revolutions, Battlestar Galactica, Deus Ex, Gilligans Island (and not in the good way) and probably some more.
To put it simply: Shepards 5-seconds line "The Reapers are still out there. And I have a job to do." from Mass Effect 1 was infinitely better and equally more well written than the last 15 minutes of ME3 combined.
No matter which "door" is opened, the prize behind it sucks.
Konges wrote...
I once thought that a new ending was needed then I watch this.
It made sense and the clues all added up.
Sorry Bioware. I just got cought up in the moment.
Modifié par Darth Malignus, 13 mars 2012 - 01:54 .
Darth Malice113 wrote...
RocketManSR2 wrote...
Darth Malignus wrote...
Without spoilers: The last 15 minutes are a travesty and takes everything you build up in all the 3 games and reduces it to a game of "What's behind the 3 doors?". Blatant rip-off of Matrix Revolutions, Battlestar Galactica, Deus Ex, Gilligans Island (and not in the good way) and probably some more.
To put it simply: Shepards 5-seconds line "The Reapers are still out there. And I have a job to do." from Mass Effect 1 was infinitely better and equally more well written than the last 15 minutes of ME3 combined.
No matter which "door" is opened, the prize behind it sucks.
But the "priize" !
Modifié par Demyx_IX, 13 mars 2012 - 01:56 .
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Darth Malignus wrote...
Konges wrote...
I once thought that a new ending was needed then I watch this.
It made sense and the clues all added up.
Sorry Bioware. I just got cought up in the moment.
And that's just guess-work to me. Are we supposed to guess that Shepard was indoctrinated for ourselves? Just sit for a while and think about it, and we'll see the light? Nonsense. The ONLY WAY that kid could appear in front of Shepard is because he's indoctrinated. Fine. NO WAY the Catalyst could have read Shepards mind and shown itself in that image, just to be able to speak to Shepard in a form he can relate to.
No sireee, it's indoctrination. Not mind reading at all. That theory is just as holed as the plot.
The Razman wrote...
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
Modifié par Darth Malignus, 13 mars 2012 - 01:58 .
NovinhaShepard wrote...
It's so much worse than we thought. I had read the script, and was all prepared for the ending. Well, I just finished the game around 9:30, and it left me feeling nauseous. It was the worse, darkest, most depressing end to a franchise I ever experienced.
Modifié par ttchip, 13 mars 2012 - 02:00 .
The Razman wrote...
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
No lynching, I agree with you. There seem to be just as many people on this forum that are content or at least indifferent towards the endings.ttchip wrote...
The game itself is good (or even great) if you have realistic expectations.
The endings... well... personally, I consider them fine as they are (yes, lynch me for that opinion <.<). They could have used a little more fleshing out, though.
Guest_PresidentCowboy_*
The Razman wrote...
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
That's like saying there wasn't any reason to play ME1 again just because the endings relied on the council choice. <_<PanzerDivision wrote...
The Razman wrote...
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
There's no sense of closure at all, yes, this makes it a bad ending.
And your decisions throughout the game don't really matter at the end, it's just a poor and lazy mechanic of "push button, recieve ending"
You can see pretty much every ending with just 1 playthrough, just need reload... That simply remove any reason to replay with another Shepard. Choices don't matter.
Modifié par Lord Aesir, 13 mars 2012 - 02:03 .
The future is pretty uncertain for the whole galaxy by the end.Darth Malignus wrote...
The Razman wrote...
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
No, but when pretty much ALL questions you'd might have about the characters you've teamed up with or met in the 3 games are unanswered, then it's a bad ending.
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less about how many kids Garrus has 20 years after the final showdown or if EDI and Jeff get married. But some closure of ANY kind would be nice.
I think this epitomises a lot of the feelings which people have towards the endings. A depressing ending retcons your feelings of hope and happiness towards the whole series. It's unfortunate ... but in effect, it shows how the ending has been effective.PresidentCowboy wrote...
I was very confused about the endings at first. Not angry, not upset, just confused. Now I'm sort of upset but only because what happens evokes such a strong emotional response from me. It's harrowing but there's hope in there too. But what happens just makes makes it hard for me to even consider playing one of the games again. Too painful knowing how things end up.
Guest_Urdnot Grim_*
The Razman wrote...
The future is pretty uncertain for the whole galaxy by the end.Darth Malignus wrote...
The Razman wrote...
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
No, but when pretty much ALL questions you'd might have about the characters you've teamed up with or met in the 3 games are unanswered, then it's a bad ending.
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less about how many kids Garrus has 20 years after the final showdown or if EDI and Jeff get married. But some closure of ANY kind would be nice.
We had closure just before the final mission. More would just be fanservice. In fact, a lot of the game was already fanservice, showing us where the characters from the series are now and where they're going in the future. What more do you want?
The Razman wrote...
Have you actually typed up your own reasons at any point?kbct wrote...
The Razman wrote...
kbct, I've yet to see you offer any constructive opinion regarding why it "sucks".
You can look at Mx_CN3's list of reasons in this thread or you can check out the hundreds of fan reviews in the spoiler section sticky. It's all been said. No need for excessive typing on my part.
I just ask because while it's fine to dislike the ending for your own reasons, if you're going to constantly state that the ending is objectively wrong and bad ... you should have real reasons.
The Razman wrote...
I think this epitomises a lot of the feelings which people have towards the endings. A depressing ending retcons your feelings of hope and happiness towards the whole series. It's unfortunate ... but in effect, it shows how the ending has been effective.PresidentCowboy wrote...
I was very confused about the endings at first. Not angry, not upset, just confused. Now I'm sort of upset but only because what happens evokes such a strong emotional response from me. It's harrowing but there's hope in there too. But what happens just makes makes it hard for me to even consider playing one of the games again. Too painful knowing how things end up.
Konges wrote...
I once thought that a new ending was needed then I watch this.
It made sense and the clues all added up.
Sorry Bioware. I just got cought up in the moment.
The Razman wrote...
The future is pretty uncertain for the whole galaxy by the end.Darth Malignus wrote...
The Razman wrote...
So ... because it leaves us with some questions unanswered, that makes it a bad ending?PanzerDivision wrote...
a_guy_on_teh_interweb wrote...
Most people are mad that there is no "happy" ending. Each option involves major losses.
I personally am not a fan of them, but i'm not really that mad about it. It could have been better, but it could have been worse.
That's not the point, I'm totally OK with desperate and depressing ends, but I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue showing the outcomes of my decisions, and there's none. Just fade to black and credits rolling, with a lot of unanswered questions.
No, but when pretty much ALL questions you'd might have about the characters you've teamed up with or met in the 3 games are unanswered, then it's a bad ending.
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less about how many kids Garrus has 20 years after the final showdown or if EDI and Jeff get married. But some closure of ANY kind would be nice.
We had closure just before the final mission. More would just be fanservice. In fact, a lot of the game was already fanservice, showing us where the characters from the series are now and where they're going in the future. What more do you want?
Modifié par Wuppie, 13 mars 2012 - 02:07 .
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