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[Femmefatality07]

Tazzmission wrote...

Femmefatality07 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Femmefatality07 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

its official the fans ruined the franchise


i cant believe you people actually are proud of this

It's official, you can't think before you type anything.

wow really ? go back and read a few comments because some posters actually have said its good

think before you speak young one

Yes, really. You just lumped people who are satisfied with people who are dissatisfied. Be specific. Only time will tell what Bioware was thinking with the endings and anything else that dissapointed people. I've made my peace, reserving my judgement with the game as a whole. 

This coming from someone who thought very positive of the game. Thank you very much.

when people demand for a writter to be fired let alone say bioware is dead that to me says the so called fans wanted them to fail

i loved the game and my comments are torwards the people who demand the most idiotic things

i mean look at what posters have done already. by there actions we have a new rule of conduct thanks to them

what really bothers me is the ending is the only thing discussed wile the other 95$ of the game isnt

its like people feed off negativity around here and im sorry but im just at a point where im sick of seeing it and i will not leave because i have every right to be here

You are entittled to your opinion and have the freedom of spe-Sort of freedom of speech. I forgot to consider the sudden change to the rules/code of conduct. That's cool.

Still. I like your insults at me. Whatever helps you cope.

[sangy]

Interesting....

Modifié par sangy, 13 mars 2012 - 01:24 .

[Sublyminal]

Tazzmission wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

its official BW ruined the franchise


i cant believe you people actually are sad of this

Fixed for you.

Correction. Bioware told the story it wanted to tell. You didn't like it. So now you are whining about it and actively campaigning to hurt Bioware in an effort to get them to change the story to something more appealing to you. I wonder if the people in Michelangelo's time attempted to get him to chop the penis off the statue of David to make it more palatable.

Correction, Casey Hudson from the VERY beginning SAID "THIS IS YOUR STORY, Everything you do effects what happens" Then all of a sudden Deus Ex comes along with a three ending choice and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread that BW has to copy it, including the colors.

things change dude. if you honestly think things never will than thats your problem

So I suppose things changed all the way up until the week of release. STOP coddling them. BW screwed up, it is us that has to help them open their eyes. EA did this crap with Westwood Studios and the CnC universe and nobody stood up, look at what happened with that. WE EITHER STAND UP NOW, OR WE BOW TO THIS CONSTANT BS THAT EA PUSHES ONTO US.

[Sergeant Threat]

The thing about the Amazon ratings is that they're only going to get worse. Not everyone has the time to finish the story so quickly. The more time passes the more people finish, and I can tell you more people will give poor ratings than good ratings after the ending

[Razorsteel]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Huh, post that Forbes review in a new thread if you haven't already, that's - we're getting a lot of press on this matter. That's a good thing.

I did, then it vanished into the electronic inky blackness. Someone didn't like it.

[Qutayba]

I firmly believe that "punishing" BioWare will neither get them to change the ending or really help anyone come to terms with it.

The ending deserves to be critiqued. But everyone agrees the rest of the game is superb. Many of the player reviews stickied at the top of this forum separate their overall score from their score for the ending. BioWare and potential players need to know that we loved this game - so much so that the ending crushed us. You don't react to someone you love hurting you by beating them up - and if you do, well, you have some serious issues.

[Pedro Costa]

Well, I guess the destination *is* as important as the journey, if the reviews are anything to go by =P

I LOVED the game, up until Diablos Ex Machina showed up. Not only did it kill the game, it killed the franchise for me.
But I won't review the game until we get any word on endings-related DLC, it'd be unjust to give the game a damning review only to have what's wrong with it fixed and not being able to correct said review.

[Almostfaceman]

Zanallen wrote...

Correction. Bioware told the story it wanted to tell. You didn't like it. So now you are whining about it and actively campaigning to hurt Bioware in an effort to get them to change the story to something more appealing to you. I wonder if the people in Michelangelo's time attempted to get him to chop the penis off the statue of David to make it more palatable.

Congratulations at comparing apples and oranges. When Stephen King ended his Dark Towers series in a way I hated, I did not ask him to change it. When Bioware promised me a wide variety of endings and didn't deliver, I complained.

See the difference?

There is a canon Roland. There is no canon Shepard, and Bioware should have integrated the choices we made in the series into the ending.

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 13 mars 2012 - 12:47 .

[Tequila Man]

HKR148 wrote...

I would give 9/10 for the overall game. Strangely I don't know, the ending seriously have damaged my mental health state to a point where I can't even look at the disc nor the box anymore. It certainly feels like the game deserve 1/10 at least with such feelings but I can't do that. Really is hard to fairly judge this given how much ending mattered to the overall experience of the entire game regardless of how great the rest of the contents have been.

So far I will stay neutral and say 6/10.

That means the ending was a 0/10 and the rest of the game, say 9/10? Nah, we'll go 10/10. Since the destination dictates roughly 50% of the journey, that means the game is a 5/10. 5/10, by the way, is Switzerland. Neutral.


Tell my wife I said: "hello."

[emperoralku]

TeamLexana wrote...

You do realize if you force the game to flop, you will not in fact get your petty way and get a "fixed" ending, right? Bioware and EA will not spend money on something that will not give them profit.

This result would actually be maintaining the theme of pyrrhic victory that they have recently taught us all about. Maybe we should adopt a space wizard as the avatar for the campaign. 

[Brahlis]

I'm supposed to be concerned about Bioware's financial ability to make games in the future?

After they gave me an ending that crushed me and has made me depressed whenever I even think about video games?

No. I don't care, and I don't see why I should unless they fix this.

Modifié par Brahlis, 13 mars 2012 - 12:47 .

[KotorEffect3]

The game is still a great game even if the endings are less than hoped for. People are just too damn overreactive and they are blowing the ending way out of proportion.

[Femmefatality07]

Qutayba wrote...

I firmly believe that "punishing" BioWare will neither get them to change the ending or really help anyone come to terms with it.

The ending deserves to be critiqued. But everyone agrees the rest of the game is superb. Many of the player reviews stickied at the top of this forum separate their overall score from their score for the ending. BioWare and potential players need to know that we loved this game - so much so that the ending crushed us. You don't react to someone you love hurting you by beating them up - and if you do, well, you have some serious issues.

Your siggy is the best thing I've seen all day! <3x9000

[Zanallen]

Sublyminal wrote...

Correction, Casey Hudson from the VERY beginning SAID "THIS IS YOUR STORY, Everything you do effects what happens" Then all of a sudden Deus Ex comes along with a three ending choice and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread that BW has to copy it, including the colors.

You do know how video games work, right? The developers create a series of situations that you play through. Some games, like ME3, allow you to make decisions from a number of different choices which then lead to different situations. ME3 absolutely allows you to craft your own story from the parameters set out for you. All the way up to the ending where you make your final choice from three different options. You then get the ending of the game which is different based on that final choice along with slight variations depening on your EMS (A parameter effected by all of your previous choices and actions within the game). Did you think you were going to be writing a fanfiction that Bioware was then going to design into a game or something?

[The Smitchens]

ChaosMarky wrote...

Geez, even though i hate the ending, the game still deserves a higher score than that! C'mon guys, this is going too far..

I agree.  It's not like the game itself was that bad.  Actually the game itself is probably among my favorites.  It's just that if this is where Shepard drops off in the story arc then why not give him some sort of resolution?  But the game itself is still satisfying to play.  Emotional, funny, powerful, and effective.

An analogy.  It's like when the Saints went lossless a few years ago only to lose in the Super Bowl.  The only loss was the one that really counted, but the rest was still really good.

Modifié par The Smitchens, 13 mars 2012 - 12:51 .

[Tequila Man]

emperoralku wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

You do realize if you force the game to flop, you will not in fact get your petty way and get a "fixed" ending, right? Bioware and EA will not spend money on something that will not give them profit.

This result would actually be maintaining the theme of pyrrhic victory that they have recently taught us all about. Maybe we should adopt a space wizard as the avatar for the campaign. 

I saw some words in there.

Avatar.

Space Wizard.

Where the hell are the Star Child avatars for the forums?!

[Sergeant Threat]

Tequila Man wrote...

HKR148 wrote...

I would give 9/10 for the overall game. Strangely I don't know, the ending seriously have damaged my mental health state to a point where I can't even look at the disc nor the box anymore. It certainly feels like the game deserve 1/10 at least with such feelings but I can't do that. Really is hard to fairly judge this given how much ending mattered to the overall experience of the entire game regardless of how great the rest of the contents have been.

So far I will stay neutral and say 6/10.

That means the ending was a 0/10 and the rest of the game, say 9/10? Nah, we'll go 10/10. Since the destination dictates roughly 50% of the journey, that means the game is a 5/10. 5/10, by the way, is Switzerland. Neutral.


Tell my wife I said: "hello."

Was Mass Effect 3 good? My gut tells me "maybe".

[Sublyminal]

Zanallen wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

Correction, Casey Hudson from the VERY beginning SAID "THIS IS YOUR STORY, Everything you do effects what happens" Then all of a sudden Deus Ex comes along with a three ending choice and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread that BW has to copy it, including the colors.

You do know how video games work, right? The developers create a series of situations that you play through. Some games, like ME3, allow you to make decisions from a number of different choices which then lead to different situations. ME3 absolutely allows you to craft your own story from the parameters set out for you. All the way up to the ending where you make your final choice from three different options. You then get the ending of the game which is different based on that final choice along with slight variations depening on your EMS (A parameter effected by all of your previous choices and actions within the game). Did you think you were going to be writing a fanfiction that Bioware was then going to design into a game or something?

No, I expected what I and many other were promised and all we got was a slap in the face.

[mpgeist]

 The fact is Bioware created us. People asked for Tali and Garrus to be romancable(?) and Bioware made it so. They actively advertised and encouraged us to make the Mass Effect story our own. People writing these articles seem to forget that. To many people this is more than just a video game series. This was Star Wars for a new generation, one where we could decide how the epic space drama plays out. To me this game represented everything I hoped video games would be. Then, at the very end all that was taken away in a 10 minute scene where I had very little control. I won't apologize once for being angry at the terrible conclusion to this epic journey that I was actually emotionally invested in. Sorry to my fellow BSNers though, I'm trying to get this rage out constructively.

[Wattoes]

Brahlis wrote...

I'm supposed to be concerned about Bioware's financial ability to make games in the future?

After they gave me an ending that crushed me and has made me depressed whenever I even think about video games?

No. I don't care, and I don't see why I should unless they fix this.

Pretty much this.

If they lose a ton of $$$ then perhaps they wont give us BS endings.  They have to know they are terrible.  Its probably some giant dlc plan (which I wont buy after a betrayal like this).

So ya, I hope they get screwed.  Lesson learned.

[Dark Specie]

DasGota wrote...

What else are people supposed to do?

I agree that a 2.5/5 is low for this game. Until the last ten minutes, I couldn't have been happier. However, the endings to this game completely ruined the experience for a lot of people. The fact of the matter is, when facing a gigantic corporation, how else is one to get their voice heard other than complaining about it?

We can talk about why it's important to "take the high road", and usually I'd be one of the first to agree. But if we're only outraged here in a bubble, what's to stop the company from pointing to a 4.5/5 and say "See? It's fine. Ignore them."

I don't enjoy that the only way to be heard is for us to scream as loud as we can, but with Bioware still refusing to come forth with a statement to at least attempt to placate us (for whatever good it may do) this kind of behavior will keep happening.

Do I like it? No. Do I understand it? Absolutely.

Basically this. I agree that the current treatment is unfair towards the parts of ME3 that was good (90-95% of it). But as was said, the endings crapped on a great deal of time, money and emotional investment into three games, so people have a right to be pissed. But how are we to show'em that people are pissed and that their idea was a bad one? By basically making what they've done hurt from a business perspective. Really, what other perspective does a company have any reason to pay attention to? They CAN easily dismiss the rage of the community against the endings as "just the ramblings of a vocal minority" otherwise.

[Ozzy57]

I also understand some people didn't play all 3 so the ending isn't so bad to them but alot played all 3 and are disturbed by the ending. Also for those who say alot of 10/10 and 9.5/10 alot of them have been made by people who haven't played the game

[Pedro Costa]

Tequila Man wrote...
Where the hell are the Star Child avatars for the forums?!

Harbinger's too awesome for the forums.

...yes, I still hope that was Harbinger trying to sway Shepard to their side.
Eh lieks Shepherd and doesn't afraid of admitting it

[neubourn]

neubourn wrote...

Amdnro wrote...

The author of this incredibly written article was right.

Im confused. The link is to Amazon, where it still lists ME3 as $59.99. What is this price drop everyone is talking about?

( i checked Gamestop, Walmart.com, Origin store...same thing: $59.99)

Ok, nobody is answering my question, so im assuming everyone is referring to the "48 new from $48.99" thing on the bottom. Please tell me that this isnt the case.

Those other prices are THIRD PARTY RETAILERS. and this happens ALL THE TIME on video games. Dont believe me? Check out the Amazon page for Street Fighter X Tekken (also released on March 6th): HERE.

As you can see, the prices have dropped from both the Amazon price, as well as the "31 new from $49.98"

This is a very common practice on Amazon, and has nothing to do with anything beyond simple markets and third party retailers. So is there some other price drop im unaware of, or is this entire bloated thread due to these standard retail price drops?