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[blah64]

I won't apologize for this. The game, sans ending was awesome. But the ending was just that bad.It ruined, simply ruined, the whole expirirence for me.

[JeanLuc Awesome]

GreenSoda wrote...

Man...I also want new endings with more closure, but...you guys really ****** me off.

This is how they know, if we all just sat quietly and sighed, nothing would ever come of it.

[Balmung31]

Luiginius wrote...

Someone mentioned Plinkett, check Redlettermedia's tweets.

Dude, I was just joking when I suggested off the cuff that he should do a review of ME3...

Not sure if it'll be an hour-and-a-half's worth of critiqueing, but still...

Modifié par Balmung31, 14 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[SecElit3]

Funny thing is that EA has no new game releases to fall back on right now. If I was an investor, I would be on the phone with Bio-Ware right now.

[darkshadow136]

leapingmonkeys wrote...

What is happening here is Business 101. BW lost sight of the fact that they are producing a game, not a work of art. If they want that game to succeed, they have to pay attention to their market and deliver what they are asking for. It is really just that simple. Instead, they are being arrogant and defensive, and the result is that they are losing market share. Its just everyday, basic business. When you ignore your market, you lose. Remember MOO3? Large market for the game, but the developers ended up arguing with the market about what should be in the game. Eventually, they decided to ignore the market and release their "superior" game. The end result? No more MOO. No more franchaise. Financial ruin.

Its Business 101. Its normal. Its expected. Its right.

If Bioware wants to ever release another game and have it do well, they need to put their egos aside and deliver what their market is asking for with ME3.

Agreed and if they don't just come forward and start having an open diologue with their customers on the forum, instead of the the backtage interview comments this is just going to get worse for them to the point that if they come forward to late people will not forgive the company and will just not buy anything from them again.

People that don't support the retake movement need to understand that this is not like a book or a piece of art on a canvas. This is a mixture of art and a commercial property. Where people were told that their decisions from ME1 on would have a real impacvt on the ending of the trilogy, and we did not get that, that in the business world is called false advertising.

So you have thousands of people buying the games over 5 years on average spending 200+ hours and around $280 if you bought all games and all the Basic  DLC content, well over a $1000.00 if you fell into the pre-order trap of Razer ME3 campaign for ME3. So you spend all that time, money, and spending the hours making all the right choices just to have all that control over the story that Bioware said we would have from day 1, to have it stripped away in the last 15 minutes.

Part of me thinks they knew this reaction to the game was coming, because of the changes to the site rules & conduct code just days prior to release. If they knew this was coming, and if by chance they really had a plan to quell the anger, but wanted to exploite it for PR they made a grave error. If they realy had a way to defuse this and witheld it from their customers it is a breach of customer trust, and will most likely not be forgiven.

I hope for Bioware's sake this is not the case, but at this point I'm loosing hope.

[Sashimi_taco]

SecElit3 wrote...

Funny thing is that EA has no new game releases to fall back on right now. If I was an investor, I would be on the phone with Bio-Ware right now.

Called my dad and asked him to change my stock portfolio around. 

:devil::devil::devil:

[thejoyrider]

For all the people criticizing poor reviews: Not everyone who didn't like the endings thinks the rest of the game was "flawless", btw. I for one think that there were a lot of problems aside from the endings and even if the endings get fixed, there are some huge glaring errors. But I support the campaign for the endings to be addressed because I think any attention to issues raised is good attention and a good starting point.

[MattFini]

Untamed_skies wrote...

leapingmonkeys wrote...

What is happening here is Business 101. BW lost sight of the fact that they are producing a game, not a work of art. If they want that game to succeed, they have to pay attention to their market and deliver what they are asking for. It is really just that simple. Instead, they are being arrogant and defensive, and the result is that they are losing market share. Its just everyday, basic business. When you ignore your market, you lose. Remember MOO3? Large market for the game, but the developers ended up arguing with the market about what should be in the game. Eventually, they decided to ignore the market and release their "superior" game. The end result? No more MOO. No more franchaise. Financial ruin.

Its Business 101. Its normal. Its expected. Its right.

If Bioware wants to ever release another game and have it do well, they need to put their egos aside and deliver what their market is asking for with ME3.

Congradulations you win the lets play the exact same game over and over, and watch the exact same action film over and over future. You want consequences for your choices dude? You're going to get it with this game alone, something as big as Mass Effect decided to go the art route and not the popular mainstream route. So what do the fans do? "Grab your pitchforks and torches this means war!" We have one legitmate reason too devalue the game and it's because they didn't expand on what happened to everything else it just kind of ends and leaves in the open which is somewhat lazy.

It really depends on how you look at it, but regardless they deserve this because "my choices affected only most the game, I don't see how they affected my endings." I hate too break it to everyone but it never did. IF you hate this game because previous choices only affected the run and not the ending. Then you must hate Mass Effect 1 & 2 right? Because they did the exact same thing there as well. If your complaint is my  Sheppard can't go have a happy retirement then again that's personal taste, and really doesn't matter how you feel about it, not everything ends happily. The only complaint that really holds any water here is that "they didn't expand on the ending," and maybe there is a reason behind that too? Maybe this is the end of Sheppard because Sheppard failed? Maybe you don't know what happened to everything else because bioware was trying not to write itself back into a hole and maybe as they've stated they want to do is make another game and use that too expand on everything?

But no you want it now, so everyone is going to get on their tip toes and scream like spoiled children who have been put in time out. Congrats, what EA and every other developer will see you saying right now is this. "I loved 99% of the game, all the action and stuff awesome, but the ending was different. I didn't like how it didn't follow a generic ending, I didn't like how it made me think, give me what everyone else gives me or I will do everything in my power to make you lose money." Good job, very classy guys.

Most people think FutureChild sucks.  A literal Deus Ex Machina is insulting.

Beyond that, Normandy Crash is sloppy and lazy.  Ditto Shepard's dying flashback.

Sorry, it's just the the ending sucks.  That your choices don't matter is only ONE part of it.  There's plenty of other reasons, and they're all equally terrible.  

[Turtlicious]

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[Avilan II]

Eterna5 wrote...

beccathelion wrote...

Wow. This is actually starting to work, isn't it? I mean, I love 95% of the game, and it deserves more than 2.5, but we're getting heard, I think.

 What's working? Ensuring Bioware will never get the funding to start a new project again? You guys are being so stupid and counter productive....

If they are incapable of giving their customers what they want, they don't deserve to be in business. It's called capitalism.

[Mhgasa]

SecElit3 wrote...

EA's stock is going down down down...

I dislike the endings, but i really dont take any satisfaction in them loosing money. I love bioware as a developer and aknowledge that even they can get it wrong, but that doesnt mean i want them flushed down the drain. I just hope they will take action sooner rather than later

[Sashimi_taco]

http://investing.mon...e/?symbol=US:EA


BLEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEH!

[laststarfighter]

SecElit3 wrote...

EA's stock is going down down down...

I came here to post this, I have EA tagged to watch on my portfolio, it's taken a NOSE DIVE today, Bioware is privately traded so no info there.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

This is probably a dumb question, but is that % of loss significant?

I don't want to see the company burn, I want them to fix the ending.

I guess this might play their hand.

Modifié par PKchu, 14 mars 2012 - 06:47 .

[GhostV9]

It dropped $.99 big whoop.

Anyway, it really deserves more than 2.5 stars.. the dev/design team don't deserve to have their work ignored because of the writing teams failures.

[Shepard3817]

weel i only regret to have paid 80 euros for a game that ruined in 15 minutes the experience of 3 games...

if i had known i wouldn't have preordered it.

serves me right for the next time, first and last time i pay so much for a bioware/EA game, i work hard for my money, as a customer i fink i deserve a little satisfaction from the product I PAY.

[Sashimi_taco]

laststarfighter wrote...

SecElit3 wrote...

EA's stock is going down down down...

I came here to post this, I have EA tagged to watch on my portfolio, it's taken a NOSE DIVE today, Bioware is privately traded so no info there.

Well maybe this will get the attention of the higher ups. They don't care about "artistic entergrity" or whatever else peopel use to defend bioware right now. They care about money.

This could also be because of many other factors, like the failing MMO they have out and that they have no other games coming out soon. 

[SSVDisappoint]

Wow, can someone explain how far EA's stocks have dropped and how that works? I am not familiar with the whole stock market thing!,

[laststarfighter]

PKchu wrote...

This is probably a dumb question, but is that % of loss significant?

I don't want to see the company burn, I want them to fix the ending.

I guess this might play their hand.

Yes, an almost 1% drop in a day is pretty significant but what is more significant is the tread for EA, they opend high last week because of the massive sales of ME3, this week with all the negative press (investers and shareholders don't read IGN) by Forbes and such, EA stock has been steadily trending down. They have lost 3.5% in 5 days. Yea that's significant.

[darkshadow136]

PKchu wrote...

This is probably a dumb question, but is that % of loss significant?

I don't want to see the company burn, I want them to fix the ending.

I guess this might play their hand.

Really I wouldn't look at it as a significant hit unless the stock drops $3 or more.


if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

[SecElit3]

PKchu wrote...

This is probably a dumb question, but is that % of loss significant?

I don't want to see the company burn, I want them to fix the ending.

I guess this might play their hand.

Hell yes, it is significant. Imagine there are investors holding thousands of shares. Some people lost money today. I can assure you of that.


Realize, several months ago, EA shares were trading at over 20.00 a share. This company is in steep decline and a lot of it is because of arrogance.

[EvilChani]

laststarfighter wrote...

SecElit3 wrote...

EA's stock is going down down down...

I came here to post this, I have EA tagged to watch on my portfolio, it's taken a NOSE DIVE today, Bioware is privately traded so no info there.

This makes me happy. I hope it goes lower. It's the only way they'll get the message. 

[darkshadow136]

SecElit3 wrote...

PKchu wrote...

This is probably a dumb question, but is that % of loss significant?

I don't want to see the company burn, I want them to fix the ending.

I guess this might play their hand.

Hell yes, it is significant. Imagine there are investors holding thousands of shares. Some people lost money today. I can assure you of that.


Realize, several months ago, EA shares were trading at over 20.00 a share. This company is in steep decline and a lot of it is because of arrogance.

Ahh I didn't know that, yeah EA is not doing good at all in that case.

[ZombieJohn84]

I hate for my franchise and Bioware to take a public beating over this, but they've brought it on themselves really. Right down to not talking to us and the snide twitter stuff.

It's like in Harry and the Hendersons where John Lithgow has to punch Harry in the face to get him to save his own life.

So sad. This is all just such a mess.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

laststarfighter wrote...

Yes, an almost 1% drop in a day is pretty significant but what is more significant is the tread for EA, they opend high last week because of the massive sales of ME3, this week with all the negative press (investers and shareholders don't read IGN) by Forbes and such, EA stock has been steadily trending down. They have lost 3.5% in 5 days. Yea that's significant.

Oh. I see. So it's bad and the investors didn't get the upward trend they were expecting.

Well, ultimately I want EA to bounce back and give us an ending, so I hope this just means they get us that ending to stop the bleeding.