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[Solduri]

Eterna5 wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ozzy57 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

ShepardMyFriend wrote...

Once they fix the ending, I will absolutely go back and change the rating. Until then...

97 people vote one star.
Let's keep pushing.

And yes, I will do a five star review when the endings are fixed.

 You know, I was content to let you guys whine at walls here and just troll you, but now you're effecting the company and their income and are actively trying to make things worse. I'm getting pissed now, in what screwed up form of logic do you feel this helps get you what you want? 

Your right its also fair that companies pay big name reviewers for 9.5's and higher ratings

 If you think Bioware payed 49 review sites to give positive reviews then that's your own delusion and you can't be helped. 

And how much do youc are to bet that not ONE of those site reviewers finished the damn game? YOU CANNOT trust a game review site. They have what is called deadlines, you know if they don't get a review in on time it doesn't get posted etc. That's how the industry works.

 You can't trust user reviews either. 

you can't trust random people on forums either... that includes you

[I_Jedi]

Eterna5 wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

ShepardMyFriend wrote...

Once they fix the ending, I will absolutely go back and change the rating. Until then...

97 people vote one star.
Let's keep pushing.

And yes, I will do a five star review when the endings are fixed.

 You know, I was content to let you guys whine at walls here and just troll you, but now you're effecting the company and their income and are actively trying to make things worse. I'm getting pissed now, in what screwed up form of logic do you feel this helps get you what you want? 

Bioware will consider it when they find their green pieces of paper missing.

[Bedevil123]

detroitmechworks wrote...

Shortest version of why the price is dropping:

But other than THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

LOL exactly!

[K_nthan]

The price dropping might provoke a response from Bioware about the endings anyway  I very highly doubt EA will take a liking to the sales dropping 

[bloodstalker1973]

most people I know ignore 1 star reviews anyway, same as they ignore 5 star reviews. My biggest problem with 1 star reviews is that most people are probably basically ignoring them because, let's face it, most 1 star reviews on Amazon come from people who have and axe to grind for one reason or another. If you want people to take you seriously, and actually listen to what you have to say, it's a much better idea to go the 3 star route, mention all the things good about the game, and then mention the ending. That makes for a balanced review, and people tend to put a lot more weight behind reading those than they do a review that is just basically concerned with pointing out everything worng with the game. I understand the disgust people might feel, but you wind up making people discount your argument when you go to the extreme of the rating scale.

[TheDove]

I don't feel bad at all. They already got my $80 and sold well. This is simply incentive to fix a dud of an ending. Everyone wins, including bioware, who regains dignity

[Sentr0]

charmedmeat wrote...

MOELANDER wrote...

In Germany the former 74,90€ Mass Effect N7 CE is now at 69,90€ And the former 44,98 Standard Edition is now at 38,98 at some retailers!

This is not good. But it will be useful in our plea though I didn't want this. Hopefully this will be fixed in some way if they really decide to give us what we want!

But no reviews so far. I actually never seen many reviews on the german amazon anyway.

They have a HUGE problem in the EU, especially with Origin, as anyone can return a product if not satisfied 14 days after purchase.  I can tell you if this was possible here in the US I would return it.

how to? i'll do it even if i only get a small % of money...

[CrisisOne]

oh well...

[SandTrout]

Eterna5 wrote...

You have suceeded in nothing, Bioware still hasn't said a word. You just better hope Bioware has the means to fix this by the time you guys are done. 

If they don't fix it, I don't have particularly good reason to ever buy one of their products. If we buy their products no matter how badly they ruin them, they have no reason to fix it. Sorry, but you're advocating appeasement, and you can ask Poland how well that works (Godwin invoked).

[Saint Op]

Problem is a lot of 0 reviews with nothing of why helps nothing...
It won't get new endings BW could think its all about MP or Origin or the delusion over DLC and so on...

[Sublyminal]

Eterna5 wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ozzy57 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

ShepardMyFriend wrote...

Once they fix the ending, I will absolutely go back and change the rating. Until then...

97 people vote one star.
Let's keep pushing.

And yes, I will do a five star review when the endings are fixed.

 You know, I was content to let you guys whine at walls here and just troll you, but now you're effecting the company and their income and are actively trying to make things worse. I'm getting pissed now, in what screwed up form of logic do you feel this helps get you what you want? 

Your right its also fair that companies pay big name reviewers for 9.5's and higher ratings

 If you think Bioware payed 49 review sites to give positive reviews then that's your own delusion and you can't be helped. 

And how much do youc are to bet that not ONE of those site reviewers finished the damn game? YOU CANNOT trust a game review site. They have what is called deadlines, you know if they don't get a review in on time it doesn't get posted etc. That's how the industry works.

 You can't trust user reviews either. 

How do you figure? The users that review the game obviously played it through to the end and they're the ones that are dissatisfied with all of it.  I am one of those users, though as I previously stated, I have not put in my review for the game because I still hold out hope. 

I went back and played ME1 - 60 hours, played ME2 - 90+ hrs, just to see if my choices mattered, got to ME3 and played for close to 70 hrs before taking on the Reapers and what do I get for my 200+ hrs? I feel as if I got bent over and screwed and didn't even receive a reach-a-round. 

[Tangster]

Daedrus_0837 wrote...

99% of the game was amazing.

The end crushed the game.

I agree with the ratings, in fact, I think they should be lower.

Here's why:

You spend 40+ hours working on the campaign. If you're a hardcore ME gamer, you've probably put in 200+ hours on all the games combined. You have a character who you have made your own, with your own choices, your own desires, and so on. Up until the end of ME3, you are able to continue to make your own choices. Unfortunately, the ending of ME3 shows that, no matter what choices you made, nothing changes. You still get the same 3 choices. If you didn't spend enough time gathering War Assets, you get 2 endings and Earth may die anyways. Other than that, nothing affects it.

So why does this justify a low rating? Because we all just spent anywhere from $60 to $80 on this game to play it for 40 hours and not be able to play it again. Almost every single post on this forum discusses how the poster has no desire to play anymore, since the choices don't matter. Look at some of the other $60 games out, like:

CoD: MW
Battlefield 3
Star Wars: The Old Republic

Those 3 games provide unlimited amounts of playtime. You spend $60 and you're pretty much set, you'll have entertainment for months, if not years. Mass Effect 3 not only ruins its own replayability, but also the replayability of ME1 and ME2, in addition to all of the DLCs.

So, in my opinion, the 2.5 rating is deserved.

I agree with this. I gave it a 1/5 on the general review but a 4/5 on fun. £60(PC N7 Edition) is alot to pay for a 25 hours game that retroactively ruins a trilogy.

Modifié par Tangster, 12 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[detroitmechworks]

And if you really love the way Bioware used to be... head on over to GOG and buy a few of their GOOD games if you haven't played em...

Might I recommend Planescape:Torment?

[zarnk567]

fropas wrote...

A Golden Dragon wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I agree that Mass Effect 3 was awesome, but I do agree that the game's plot was runied. We can unite synthetics and organics, only to be told it is not possible?

...and then you die.

I don't get this, so please explain this to me.  Many endings say that EDI walks out the door of the crashed Normandy, yet she's dead?  Maybe it's just me.....

Space magic . DONE.

Gotta Love SPACE MAGIC makes endings so simple now days. 

[Gromphadelic]

it is certainly controversial to base a negative review on 5% of the game at best, but for a lot of people, including me, the ending ruined the game if not the whole series.

if at the end of a nice dinner evening with friends you get stabbed in the back or severely beaten up this ruins it for you, no matter how nice the evening was until then. you don't tell people afterwars (massive exaggeration inc.): "hey. i landed in hospital for 3 weeks and maybe i will never walk again, but i had a hell of a t-bone steak that evening".

the majority of people who bother to give feedback seems to agree on that. now one might argue that this is not the majority of players because there were a lot more gamesales than actual negative feedback, BUT:
a company (or anyone else for what it's worth) should base it's decisions on the feedback actually given instead of assuming "no feedback = positive feedback".

so the general consense that actually matters has a rather negative view on the ending and therefor, negative reviews are absolutely understandable.

Modifié par Gromphadelic, 12 mars 2012 - 11:57 .

[suusuuu]

They are not going to do anything with this until it hits their pockets. Simple as that.
I would call it a victory for the "whiners." There's absolutely nothing to feel bad about. They give us an inadequate product, incomparable to the PR they built up for the game, and as consumers we are free to voice our opinions. Whether it will affect the decision on buying the game for people who don't have it yet is a completely different matter and doesn't have anything to do with us, because people are free to do what they want with their money.

Modifié par suusuuu, 12 mars 2012 - 11:57 .

[Zanallen]

detroitmechworks wrote...

And if you really love the way Bioware used to be... head on over to GOG and buy a few of their GOOD games if you haven't played em...

Might I recommend Planescape:Torment?

That isn't a Bioware game...

[Teddie Sage]

Actually I saw a few websites where the game got down to 39.99. So I guess the rumours are confirmed.

[StrikeSaber47]

Still normal prices at big retailers... I don't see the point here...

Modifié par StrikeSaber47, 12 mars 2012 - 11:57 .

[SomeBug]

I honestly rated it 1 star.

30 hours of 5 star content can absolutely be ruined by ten minutes of atrocious ending material.

A narrative is not the sum of its parts. It is a whole package and you cannot simply exclude one part because the rest was great.

When I go to a restaurant and have a world class meal and then for dessert get punched in the face by the maitre'd, I don't say 'oh but the food was good' and recommend it to a friend.

The entire experience is judged. The entire experience.

[NomadDC]

Well, game IS amazing, except endings. It doesn't matter if it was just a bad ending, or if that's not finished yet, we got what we see. Whatever that was Bioware are now paying for that. Enjoy having hard times selling game, BW!

They really should have predicted this. I can't believe that nobody in their office came up with bright idea: "If we'll make it all end that crappy, fans will rip and tore, there will be an outrage! We really should make another ending....."
And now, SUDDENLY, ME3 got only 2 stars, crowd of rampaging fans and some journals already posted negative reviews (Forbes for example, or some other, links can be found here, on forum).
Really, what did they expect?

To make it clear - my point is: I like 98% of game, I can ignore most of "issues", but not the ending one. Some bugs? Np, they will get fixed soon. Mp unlocks bugged? Ok, it will get fix as well. Photoshopped Tali photo? Yeah, it's not good, but we can live with it (my LI is Tali, and still np with that photo, as she's beatiful there). Some "screws" in game like 2d citizens running somwhere far away? Ok, we didn't see that. DLC was released on 1st day for 10$? Ok, we bought it, np. But endings - no way we gonna accept it as it is now.
Basically they pay for ruining our dreams/whole ME world/what we believed/etc.....

Modifié par NomadDC, 13 mars 2012 - 12:04 .

[mione]

Although I don't agree with people mass voting an product just to 'troll' or 'rant'. I do feel that the lower rating is justified by buyers who have finished the game and feel that their experience and enjoyment of the product was hinder by the way Bioware decided to handle the ending to an otherwise wonderful series.

I spent almost an hundred dollars on Mass Effect 3 and now only find myself playing Multiplayer because the single player campaign has now been 'tainted' in a way that just leaves me feeling empty and hopeless as I play through it.

This isn't an rant about how we didn't get the sunshine and rainbow ending it's the current endings leaving (at least for me) players with the view point of "Why even bother playing this again? What ever I do or did doesn't matter at all."

[Tangster]

detroitmechworks wrote...

And if you really love the way Bioware used to be... head on over to GOG and buy a few of their GOOD games if you haven't played em...

Might I recommend Planescape:Torment?

That was a masterpiece. I've got all the old Bioware classics from when thay bothered to finish games properly. Remember BG2:Throne of Bhaal? That was a fantastic ending to a game.

[zarnk567]

Gromphadelic wrote...

it is certainly controversial to base a negative review on 5% of the game at best, but for a lot of people, including me, the ending ruined the game if not the whole series.

if at the end of a nice dinner evening with friends you get stabbed in the back or severely beaten up this ruins it for you, no matter how nice the evening was until then. you don't tell people afterwars (massive exaggeration inc.): "hey. i landed in hospital for 3 weeks and maybe i will never walk again, but i had a hell of a t-bone steak that evening".

the majority of people who bother to give feedback seems to agree on that. now one might argue that this is not the majority of players because there were a lot more gamesales than actual negative feedback, BUT:
a company (or anyone else for what it's worth) should base it's decisions on the feedback actually given instead of assuming "no feedback = positive feedback".
so the general consense that actually matters has a rather negative view on the ending.

I agree with you have no want to play any of the other games again..... whats the point Shepard failes and the galaxy is toast no matter what we do. 

[Lucubration]

I'll give it two stars. One because that's the minimum, one because it has some very good points, but take off 3 because it completely devalued 3 games for me.