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[Sentr0]

bloodstalker1973 wrote...

most people I know ignore 1 star reviews anyway, same as they ignore 5 star reviews. My biggest problem with 1 star reviews is that most people are probably basically ignoring them because, let's face it, most 1 star reviews on Amazon come from people who have and axe to grind for one reason or another. If you want people to take you seriously, and actually listen to what you have to say, it's a much better idea to go the 3 star route, mention all the things good about the game, and then mention the ending. That makes for a balanced review, and people tend to put a lot more weight behind reading those than they do a review that is just basically concerned with pointing out everything worng with the game. I understand the disgust people might feel, but you wind up making people discount your argument when you go to the extreme of the rating scale.

this is totally untrue, keep going with the 1 stars review i do consider them when buying

[Hitchno]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Where's the price change? All I see are new games selling from between $55-60, and used games for $40. Why is that surprising?

New games are selling for $43 and lower on the PC side now, and lower on the xbox($42) is the lowest I've seen so far.  While amazon is still selling at $60

[MPSai]

As much as I loathe the endings I don't agree with giving the rest of the game unfair ratings.

[ApplesauceBandit]

Maybe BioWare will actually comment and explain why they made the ending so terrible. The ending ruined the journey, everything we've accomplished so far throughout all 3 games boiled down to a giant slap in the face.

[J5550123]

Eterna5 wrote...

beccathelion wrote...

Wow. This is actually starting to work, isn't it? I mean, I love 95% of the game, and it deserves more than 2.5, but we're getting heard, I think.

 What's working? Ensuring Bioware will never get the funding to start a new project again? You guys are being so stupid and counter productive....

You can't put everyone who dislikes the ending into one group, Not everyone is giving the game one star.

[TeamLexana]

You do realize if you force the game to flop, you will not in fact get your petty way and get a "fixed" ending, right? Bioware and EA will not spend money on something that will not give them profit.

[yoshibb]

We do not just accept bad things in life. If a movie ending is bad, we tell our friends not to see it. If I get bad food at a restaurant, I don't go back. If a hotel doesn't provide proper amenities, I'm not going to stay there.

However, if those things change I will give them another try. Why are games any different?

I and everyone else here will go back to fully supporting Mass Effect if they change the endings. I will tell my friends that it's ok to put money down on this game again. But I will warn people now that the game is a shoddy mess at the end until these things are fixed.

If you don't speak up than nothing will get done, it is simple as that.

[detroitmechworks]

Tangster wrote...

That was a masterpiece. I've got all the old Bioware classics from when thay bothered to finish games properly. Remember BG2:Throne of Bhaal? That was a fantastic ending to a game.

And even the MODS for that game were good, too.  New love interests, NPC's Quests... awesome in general.

We don't HATE you Bioware.  We just want you back...  come home!

[AxisEvolve]

StrikeSaber47 wrote...

Still normal prices at big retailers... I don't see the point here...

Big retailers barely ever budge on their price. Stores near me still sell 2011 games for 60$.

[dkear1]

Eterna5 wrote...
You know, I was content to let you guys whine at walls here and just troll you, but now you're effecting the company and their income and are actively trying to make things worse. I'm getting pissed now, in what screwed up form of logic do you feel this helps get you what you want?

Bioware knew when they made this that fans would not be happy.  They said so on more than one occasion.  Course I very much doubt they were aware of the numbers and the level of anger they would arouse.

And we should feel sorry for them?  Why?  They tanked what was the greatest game triology ever......for what?  Some artsy twist?  They made their bed and now they will sleep in it.  That is life.  That they stay silent on the issue is further proof that they don't give a crap.  The power to fix this rests firmly in the lap of the ones that screwed it up to begin with.  The real question is will they?

Personally I hope that they cut the silence and say that they will look into a solution.  This would calm folks down, and give them a chance to access things.  Ignoring it will only make things worse.

[I_Jedi]

MPSai wrote...

As much as I loathe the endings I don't agree with giving the rest of the game unfair ratings.

It helps with persuasion. Also, it saves ME people from bad endings if they didn't get their copy yet.

[nitefyre410]

Sublyminal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

That's crap. you should all feel terrible.

Why should we feel terrible? I am one of the few that payed $80 goddamn dollars for this game. The endings alone made me wish I had waited and paid only $40 for it. Stop trying to make people feel bad because BW made a bad decision to go with the Deus Ex endings.

 

^ I agree with this guy 

Why should I feel terrible.. .what  because  Bioware made a  plan bad ending to one of the predominate  trilogies of this current console  generation.  Please.. I am never going to feel panning terrbile writting and that  what the endings of Mass Effect 3  are   terrible writing  that can't even hide behind  the rip off Deus Ex like choice at the end.  

I just a read  fan fiction  ending that had more meaning and depth than that nonsense Bioware put out...  Yes Mass Effect 3 up until the ending is great but you know what if the game  bombs because they dropped ball at the end of the game... then the game bombs... thats not our fault thats Bioware/EA fault they should have thought about that when the released the game with  bad written endings full pet peeve tropes, plot holes, and everything else. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 13 mars 2012 - 12:03 .

[suusuuu]

MattFini wrote...

The ads screamed "TAKE BACK EARTH!"

Except that you don't. And the ending turns into some metaphysical nonsense that has almost no climax and certainly no resolution. Not to mention more plotholes than I can count.

Wait ... why would anyone be disappointed?

You take it back... back to the stone age.

[TheAsphodel]

I don't know what to think.

Bombing reviews is *bad* and I'm not in favor of them...but there seems to be no more effective way than to bomb them.

[Eterna]

Sublyminal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

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Ozzy57 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

ShepardMyFriend wrote...

Once they fix the ending, I will absolutely go back and change the rating. Until then...

97 people vote one star.
Let's keep pushing.

And yes, I will do a five star review when the endings are fixed.

 You know, I was content to let you guys whine at walls here and just troll you, but now you're effecting the company and their income and are actively trying to make things worse. I'm getting pissed now, in what screwed up form of logic do you feel this helps get you what you want? 

Your right its also fair that companies pay big name reviewers for 9.5's and higher ratings

 If you think Bioware payed 49 review sites to give positive reviews then that's your own delusion and you can't be helped. 

And how much do youc are to bet that not ONE of those site reviewers finished the damn game? YOU CANNOT trust a game review site. They have what is called deadlines, you know if they don't get a review in on time it doesn't get posted etc. That's how the industry works.

 You can't trust user reviews either. 

How do you figure? The users that review the game obviously played it through to the end and they're the ones that are dissatisfied with all of it.  I am one of those users, though as I previously stated, I have not put in my review for the game because I still hold out hope. 

 the people giving it 1 on metacritic for having homosexuality are trustworthy I hear.

[OMTING52601]

Eterna5 wrote...

 You know, I was content to let you guys whine at walls here and just troll you, but now you're effecting the company and their income and are actively trying to make things worse. I'm getting pissed now, in what screwed up form of logic do you feel this helps get you what you want? 

You know, this is a free market economy, this is how it works. Sorry, but on this one thing, I'm completely objective. The backlash is EA's problem, end of. If they'd delivered a more satisfying product, there wouldn't be so much backlash. Moreover, I darn well expect the free market to work like it's supposed to: if people don't want what you're selling, you're stock drops and you lose money. Period. If EA can't get a handle on it, again, that's their problem. They are a business, their job is to make a profit, business only makes a profit if they have something consumers want to sell.

Also, there is absolutely zero agitation, anxiety, anger, or angst attached to any of my comments. I'm commenting purely from a business perspective without any emotional investment. Plenty of game companies put out games that don't sell well and plenty of companies put out games that have issues. And plenty of those game companies are no longer in business, which is as it should be in a free market. Business either has customer loyalty and demand or they don't.

An aside, I'm not sure what's up with not being able to return the game, though. As long as you have your receipt, in USA where I am, everywhere here(except GameStop, maybe) you can return an opened game for a full refund. You usually only have like two weeks to do it, but if people are really that dissatisfied, find a way to get recompense. There are ways to recoup lost monies even on digital products.

[Epiph1]

I'm actually waiting to see what Bioware says and does about this before I give it a rating, because in all fairness there isn't a rating system that's suitable for this situation.

I got a game that is essentially in two parts. One part I would rate 9.5 (the first 98%) of the game, and the second part (the infamous endings) I would rate a 0. There is no system that allows that.

That's the precise problem here. Game = 2 different games.

I don't think think it's fair to tank their rating deliberately to be perfectly honest with you even though I agree it's a bunch of bull. If anything it should have been seen as an alternative source for us to point to outside of the BSN universe to say that the "silent majority" in fact do agree the endings are terrible and need to be corrected.

[fyresai]

Aren't endings the whole reason we play an RPG? I mean, you don't read a novel and get to the end and go 'Wow that ending sucked, but let me just re-read the first few hundred pages with the knowledge that it all is for nothing in the end.' Games that are story-driven should be rated on their story, and if the story fails to deliver...

[suusuuu]

TeamLexana wrote...

You do realize if you force the game to flop, you will not in fact get your petty way and get a "fixed" ending, right? Bioware and EA will not spend money on something that will not give them profit.

It already gave them profit, it sold well until people started finishing the game and posting their opinions.

[Zanallen]

"I want Bioware to spend time and money to fix the endings that I felt were lackluster and/or poorly made. As such, I shall actively campaign to ensure that Bioware receives less money."

Interesting tactic...Is this like an Anti-Kickstarter program?

[Benrosan]

Right where it hurts.. The wallet.

[Korhiann]

Sentr0 wrote...

charmedmeat wrote...

MOELANDER wrote...

In Germany the former 74,90€ Mass Effect N7 CE is now at 69,90€ And the former 44,98 Standard Edition is now at 38,98 at some retailers!

This is not good. But it will be useful in our plea though I didn't want this. Hopefully this will be fixed in some way if they really decide to give us what we want!

But no reviews so far. I actually never seen many reviews on the german amazon anyway.

They have a HUGE problem in the EU, especially with Origin, as anyone can return a product if not satisfied 14 days after purchase.  I can tell you if this was possible here in the US I would return it.

how to? i'll do it even if i only get a small % of money...

Doesn't work with software the same way as with hardware.

[Ozzy57]

And by the way FIFA is the biggest selling sports game year after year which is owned by EA which owns Bioware now so I don't see them having a problem with money. How many people bought multiplayer packs with real money?

[Ajx-]

Shoulda waited for the bargain bin

[Kai212]

Long term fans feel betrayed. If Bioware doesn't do anything, it deserves a 2.5/10.