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[dkear1]

Zanallen wrote...
And this thinking is why user reviews are worthless. One person gives it a 10, three people give it a 0 in retaliation.

And what is a shame is some of those user reviews are more in depth and honest than the advertisments the supposed pro's pump out (talking about those in the 5-8 range).

[Gromphadelic]

i don't know why i came up with that stupid dinner-stabbing analogy when something similar just recently happened to me.

on christmas eve 2011 i had a nice celebration with my family, nice dinner and some happy time toghether with my loved ones.
then, when i drove home, i had a car accident. nothing happened to me but my car was scrapped and i had to wait for a mechanic for an hour in the cold, by the side of the highway in the middle of the night, ON CHRISTMAS EVE.
so although the greater part of the evening was quiet nice, the last 5% ruined it for me.

no reason this can't apply to a computer game and lead to negative reviews.

Modifié par Gromphadelic, 13 mars 2012 - 12:16 .

[jeweledleah]

forget the number of stars. numbers are pointless. READ the reviews. most of the explain exactly WHAT made people rate the game so low. and while a lot of it IS the ending, far from all of it is. from day one DLC, to multitude of bugs, importing issues, gameplay issues (heck, I had to reload couple of times, becasue I couldn't interact with a quest giver), pacing, disappearing and/or jumbled voice work, etc. the game is NOT perfect. and while all of the above could be forgiven, the endings? they just became the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Sentr0]

Benrosan wrote...

Right where it hurts.. The wallet.

^  this

[Sergeant Threat]

I would rate the game between the paid off sites that give it 10/10 and the angry fans giving it 1/10. Overall the game was good, and i would give it a 8.5/10, but that ending...that ending was just awful. Definetely puts it down to atleast a 5/10 since Mass Effect is a story based so much on decisions, and the "epic climax" at the end has nothing to do with any decisions you made.

Overall, I definetely see where the angry people are coming from. People usually rate things on the most recent part of something they experienced. Since the end of the game was the last thing we had to think about it hit us the hardest. Personally, I'm not mad that they killed Shepard. I was expecting that all along. They completely destroyed the Mass Effect Universe. Everyone is stranded in a single system now. How will that work for any game that comes after it.

I hope all these repercussions help Bioware fix this somehow. They must have known they'd have to deal with some backlash for that ending. They probably just didn't realize how severe it'd be.

[Tequila Man]

I like how people say we aren't being objective (with the scores), while defending the ending.

Look, if you think we are being amoral, okay. But, don't sit there and tell me the ending was good. It was not. If you think it is, well, sirs and ladies, you are not being objective.

[goose2989]

 I honestly don't want this to happen. I wanted this game to be huge. I wanted all my friends to play Mass Effect 3 with me online, as I continued to play single player over and over. But the way it ends... I just can't sit back and accept it

While I am one that wants a cheezy, happy "Disney" ending, I also want it to be a CHOICE. I don't want everyone to have to choose that same ending. If Bioware were to release an Ending DLC, giving us the OPTION to play like that, I wouldn't hesitate one second to purchase every bit of DLC they release in the future, and I'd even buy multiple Spectre Packs with MS Points just as a sign of good faith

[Sergeant Threat]

jeweledleah wrote...

forget the number of stars. numbers are pointless. READ the reviews. most of the explain exactly WHAT made people rate the game so low. and while a lot of it IS the ending, far from all of it is. from day one DLC, to multitude of bugs, importing issues, gameplay issues (heck, I had to reload couple of times, becasue I couldn't interact with a quest giver), pacing, disappearing and/or jumbled voice work, etc. the game is NOT perfect. and while all of the above could be forgiven, the endings? they just became the straw that broke the camel's back.

A pretty big straw, though.

[Tequila Man]

Sergeant Threat wrote...

I would rate the game between the paid off sites that give it 10/10 and the angry fans giving it 1/10. Overall the game was good, and i would give it a 8.5/10, but that ending...that ending was just awful. Definetely puts it down to atleast a 5/10 since Mass Effect is a story based so much on decisions, and the "epic climax" at the end has nothing to do with any decisions you made.

Overall, I definetely see where the angry people are coming from. People usually rate things on the most recent part of something they experienced. Since the end of the game was the last thing we had to think about it hit us the hardest. Personally, I'm not mad that they killed Shepard. I was expecting that all along. They completely destroyed the Mass Effect Universe. Everyone is stranded in a single system now. How will that work for any game that comes after it.

I hope all these repercussions help Bioware fix this somehow. They must have known they'd have to deal with some backlash for that ending. They probably just didn't realize how severe it'd be.

Honestly, for me, this game would have been a 9.5+ if the ending hadn't been as it was. Really, truly, breaks my heart.

[emp6]

I pre-ordered the N7 Collectors Edition (xbox) from Amazon.de and paid 89,99€. Now the N7 CE for Xbox costs 79€ on Amazon.de.

It seems that Amazon is raising pressure upon EA.

[Hiredguns23]

Mclouvins wrote...

ChaosMarky wrote...

Geez, even though i hate the ending, the game still deserves a higher score than that! C'mon guys, this is going too far..

It's review bombing just like metacritic from people who have nothing to say beyond "I don't like the ending so the game get 1 star" which is not a good review.

Can't have a proper story with out a proper ending, and no I am not talking about a happy or sad ending. I talking about ending(s) that make since. It would be like watching star wars and you get to the last video ending and instead of blowing up the 2nd death star the Sith comes in and said "Hey, to let you know reason why we are blowing up this moon is so that galatic society can achieve peace through our control of the goverment. But now you made it this far and the only choice you have is:

One, Use your blue lightsaber and throw into the core destroying the death star but galatic peace won't be achieved

Two, use your red light saber and kill me and control the station and ppl in it but galatic peace won't be achieved

Three, Use your green light saber kill me and yourself, end the way of the force and possibly achieve galatic peace. "

It is fooking ruined the whole story. SO yea the 1 rating because of the story ending is crediable.

[angryjon]

What this will end up causing is diminished sales of the game, which will yield scarce to no dev support whatsoever.. So all these people complaining about wanting a better ending from bioware, and then turning around and giving their product a 1/5 doesn't really make sense to me. I'm not saying the game deserves a perfect rating or that the ending was good (which IMO it was not), but giving purposefully bad reviews based on 5 minutes of a 30 hour game makes you no better than the metacritic troll reviews.... just my 2 cents...

[Tequila Man]

goose2989 wrote...

 I honestly don't want this to happen. I wanted this game to be huge. I wanted all my friends to play Mass Effect 3 with me online, as I continued to play single player over and over. But the way it ends... I just can't sit back and accept it

While I am one that wants a cheezy, happy "Disney" ending, I also want it to be a CHOICE. I don't want everyone to have to choose that same ending. If Bioware were to release an Ending DLC, giving us the OPTION to play like that, I wouldn't hesitate one second to purchase every bit of DLC they release in the future, and I'd even buy multiple Spectre Packs with MS Points just as a sign of good faith

Yes.

I do solemnly swear, Bioware, that if you release a well-thought out Ending DLC, I will buy TWENTY (20) Spectre Packs on top of that. 

PLEASE. BIOWARE. TAKE MY MONEY.

[Razorsteel]

The crapstorm has made it to Forbes:   www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/12/how-bioware-could-find-redemption-using-mass-effect-3/2/

Modifié par Razorsteel, 13 mars 2012 - 12:18 .

[detroitmechworks]

Sergeant Threat wrote...

A pretty big straw, though.

Emmmmeeeerrgency Inducshun.... straw... port... 

[Almostfaceman]

Do I think "bombing" is right? Nope. Do I think that Bioware isn't making the situation any better by keeping their mouths shut? Yep.

You didn't give us closure with the ending, Bioware, now you won't give us closure on whether or not you'll take our money and give us more choice for the ending. Please respond.

[Impulse and Compulse]

While I think it's a fantastic game up until that point, and the written reviews on Amazon reflect that, this might be the only way to truly get their attention. Let's just face it; EA never has, and never will care about their fans unless it means more money in their pocket. If that wasn't true, they would have shown it by now instead of forcing online passes and discontinued servers on us.

And yes, Bioware made the ending, but they're not going to waste their time fixing it unless they get paid to do so by EA; this isn't just a quick, 5-minute fix.

So that leaves us with only one option: make it profitable for them to listen to us. If they feel like the only hope for their situation is to fix this mess, then they will have no choice. I feel bad for demoting such an otherwise great game, but if this is what it takes, then I sadly approve.

[Tequila Man]

angryjon wrote...

What this will end up causing is diminished sales of the game, which will yield scarce to no dev support whatsoever.. So all these people complaining about wanting a better ending from bioware, and then turning around and giving their product a 1/5 doesn't really make sense to me. I'm not saying the game deserves a perfect rating or that the ending was good (which IMO it was not), but giving purposefully bad reviews based on 5 minutes of a 30 hour game makes you no better than the metacritic troll reviews.... just my 2 cents...

Here's some math.

Ten dollar Ending DLC multiplied by (just using North American numbers) 3.5 million users.  Sorry, but the hurt Bioware is going to take from the review bomb is NOTHING compared to the loss they would take by not making the Ending DLC.

[MiSsSmOkEy20]

The endings really weren't that bad, they would make sense for a different game but they were confusing because a lot of the choices you made didn't even really reflect anything. I was expecting for a lot of my choices to come back and bite me in the ass but none of them did. Even the Rachni didn't really doom Shepard. But the game was still amazing and I loved playing it. And wth I saved that stupid fish for nothing, I didn't notice anything different from my first ending to my second.

[Thelonesomerider]

I've played mass effect since 2007 and ME1 ME 2 and 95% ME3 are great games. However its amazing and sad how a crappy un-explained confusing bull15 minute ending with no replayability ( that ruined my other 4 playthroughs of mass effect(i use the term loosely as i would not call it an ending) ruined my(our) favorite videogame series. A series that could have been one of the greatest games of all time........ i feel cheated

[Sublyminal]

Tequila Man wrote...

angryjon wrote...

What this will end up causing is diminished sales of the game, which will yield scarce to no dev support whatsoever.. So all these people complaining about wanting a better ending from bioware, and then turning around and giving their product a 1/5 doesn't really make sense to me. I'm not saying the game deserves a perfect rating or that the ending was good (which IMO it was not), but giving purposefully bad reviews based on 5 minutes of a 30 hour game makes you no better than the metacritic troll reviews.... just my 2 cents...

Here's some math.

Ten dollar Ending DLC multiplied by (just using North American numbers) 3.5 million users.  Sorry, but the hurt Bioware is going to take from the review bomb is NOTHING compared to the loss they would take by not making the Ending DLC.

This, 3.5 million x 10 is 35 million just off of American's alone. Now add in all the other countries. We're looking at $100 million dollars.

[Umbrellamage]

angryjon wrote...

What this will end up causing is diminished sales of the game, which will yield scarce to no dev support whatsoever.. So all these people complaining about wanting a better ending from bioware, and then turning around and giving their product a 1/5 doesn't really make sense to me. I'm not saying the game deserves a perfect rating or that the ending was good (which IMO it was not), but giving purposefully bad reviews based on 5 minutes of a 30 hour game makes you no better than the metacritic troll reviews.... just my 2 cents...

The thing is in many cases, for many individuals the 1 is justifiable.  ME3 is an easy 5/5, 10/10 up until the last 5 minutes, at which point not only does it warrant a 1/5, 1/10, it goes so far into the negative range that it devalues and destroys itself, and the previous two games for many.

[Sergeant Threat]

detroitmechworks wrote...

Sergeant Threat wrote...

A pretty big straw, though.

Emmmmeeeerrgency Inducshun.... straw... port... 

Thanks for reminding me there were parts of the game that made me smile:)