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[BaladasDemnevanni]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Free Market goes both ways. Don't tell us "it's our product, we do with it what we want" then cry like a baby when you suffer the backlash from market forces.

Free Market is ruthless. Free Market is unkind. Most people don't like -real- free Market, where Consumers have equal power to Producers, they like Corporate-centric Free Market, where consumers are money filled Pinata's that can be whacked open over and over.

Don't like it? Get out of the free Market.

Absolutely this.

[Thornne]

If you make a poor product, and demand is less than you expected, then the price has to come down or you just eat all those unsold boxes.

That said, I am not really seeing any evidence of a "huge price drop". Just a few 3rd-party sales on Amazon.com for a couple bucks less than 'standard', which isn't all that unusual.

[CSunkyst]

fyresai wrote...

There have been other games that are 'bad', especially in terms of gameplay, that didn't get the sort of down-grading and price drops that ME3 has seen. However, it is a free market and ultimately the consumer decides what something is worth to them, regardless of ethics.

But did those other bad games ultimately make you feel sick and empty inside after you were done playing them?  I may have found a game like Darkvoid to be underwealming and a bit of a letdown with mediocre to bad gameplay, But ultimately it didn't hurt me like ME3 did.  99.9% of Mass Effect is great, but sadly the 0.1% was probably the single most important part of the game, the climax of a 100+ hour epic.  Because of what was wrong with ME3 it was able to overpower that other 99.9%.  Mass Effect actually managed to make a very large number of longtime fans who have invested years into the series feel depressed.  Darkvoid didn't do that to people.  So I believe the 1 star ratings are oddly deserved.  

What's going on here with ME3 is really fascinating to me.  Has anything like this ever happened in gaming before?

[CSunkyst]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Free Market goes both ways. Don't tell us "it's our product, we do with it what we want" then cry like a baby when you suffer the backlash from market forces.

Free Market is ruthless. Free Market is unkind. Most people don't like -real- free Market, where Consumers have equal power to Producers, they like Corporate-centric Free Market, where consumers are money filled Pinata's that can be whacked open over and over.

Don't like it? Get out of the free Market.

That is a great post.

The free market has been taking it's toll on gamers lately, from day one DLC content torn out of a game and sold to us, to this whole buisness with Origin.  It's nice to know it works both ways.

Karma is a *****

[Spectre 117]

Thornne wrote...

If you make a poor product, and demand is less than you expected, then the price has to come down or you just eat all those unsold boxes.

That said, I am not really seeing any evidence of a "huge price drop". Just a few 3rd-party sales on Amazon.com for a couple bucks less than 'standard', which isn't all that unusual.

Yes because we all know that ME3 was completely horrible from the start...

[NightHawkIL]

Perfectly fair. Mass Effect has been my favorite series of all time, right up to the final scene. Even so, Bioware needs to live by the laws of consumerism. They need to learn a lesson that any company that is as large as they are should already know: If you cut corners at the expense of the consumer, that consumer is likely to go elsewhere.

Example: Even though the majority of a car may be worth every penny of $1000, just taking the one shortcut that placed the ignition wires through the gas tank so it catches on fire when starting is enough to make it worthless to a consumer.

[Beld VanGuard]

This is the price of business. You cannot falsely advertise a product, anger a loyal fan base, and NOT expect this to happen.
I'm glad to see in some small aspect, the system at work

[OMTING52601]

CSunkyst wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

Free Market goes both ways. Don't tell us "it's our product, we do with it what we want" then cry like a baby when you suffer the backlash from market forces.

Free Market is ruthless. Free Market is unkind. Most people don't like -real- free Market, where Consumers have equal power to Producers, they like Corporate-centric Free Market, where consumers are money filled Pinata's that can be whacked open over and over.

Don't like it? Get out of the free Market.

That is a great post.

The free market has been taking it's toll on gamers lately, from day one DLC content torn out of a game and sold to us, to this whole buisness with Origin.  It's nice to know it works both ways.

Karma is a *****

Thank you, dear sweet deity of your choosing. OMG, I am now realigned to my nearly emotionless center  And I am dead serious.

[Kaeleron]

CSunkyst wrote...

But did those other bad games ultimately make you feel sick and empty inside after you were done playing them?  I may have found a game like Darkvoid to be underwealming and a bit of a letdown with mediocre to bad gameplay, But ultimately it didn't hurt me like ME3 did.  99.9% of Mass Effect is great, but sadly the 0.1% was probably the single most important part of the game, the climax of a 100+ hour epic.  Because of what was wrong with ME3 it was able to overpower that other 99.9%.  Mass Effect actually managed to make a very large number of longtime fans who have invested years into the series feel depressed.  Darkvoid didn't do that to people.  So I believe the 1 star ratings are oddly deserved.  

What's going on here with ME3 is really fascinating to me.  Has anything like this ever happened in gaming before?

Deus Ex 2 but on a smaller scale.

But this drama is almost as rabid as the SWTOR Pre-launch period.

Modifié par Kaeleron, 13 mars 2012 - 02:00 .

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

The story was the most important part.

If you botch the most important part that influences how every past action is viewed, and it makes your customers have negative feelings about the product, then yeah. Totally.

[Cirreus]

Considering what EA/Bioware is doing with DLC & the Endings, No ... they deserve every financial hit possible. They sold a defective product & lied about it's intentions & content. It's called capitalism. For the recourse I have available as a consumer that can not return this product & the emotion stress this company just put me through, It's fair game.

[Nassegris]

If you ****** your customers off, it tends to have repercussions.

Say, I go eat at a great restaurant. I’ve always had lovely meals there, great parties with my friends and spent a lot of money on perfect meals over the years. On this particular day, the food is quite yummy. At the point where I’ve almost finished gobbling down my scrumptious dish, I discover the last bite is actually filled with maggots and rat-poo, littered with creepy, crawly things, practically tripping over themselves to get into my gullet. Aghast, I call for the chef, and he explains that it’s his artistic vision that the last bite should have rat-poo, and also maggots in it. I’d best chow down.

Meanwhile, all the staff are quietly mocking me for even daring to ask if there had been a mistake made and if the dish could please be replaced.

Y’know, that last bite has ruined the restaurant for good for me. It doesn’t matter if every meal up until that point was delicious. I also know I’ll tell all my friends to avoid the place like the plague, because I couldn’t stand the thought of them ending up with a mouthful of THAT, either.

That having been said – I’ve not left angry reviews about ME3 anywhere, I’ve not marked down the game’s score at a single place and I’m not sure it’s fair to do so, either. I do understand why, though. People are mad, and upset.

They’ve just had a mouthful of rat-poo and maggots, give them a break.

Modifié par Nassegris, 13 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[darthoptimus003]

some have said on this forum that the down rating is fair and some said is not
in my opionion yes it is the devs promised one thing and delivered another and now people are mad and who can really blame them like myself who has the ce of all three games $300 total just to learn at the end that the first two game pretty much meant nothing because of the ending and that is what the majoriy {im assuming} is pissed about so they are doing what would be expected giving this great game until the last 15min a lower rating that is how this works just like a movie if it sucked you are going to let people know and that what people are doing right now it may hurt but bw or help them its accually there choice on how to fix this problem
if they do ratings go up
if they dont ritings go lower and lower until its a $5 game a month later
but right now the price has dropped what $2 or $3 dollars hear and there not that much really and thats 3rd party now when it drops at big name places is really when u need to pay atintion but all of this is my opionion :dueses:

[Legendaryred]

It's fair enough, EA thinks they can do whatever the hell they want and we're just gonna lay back and let this happen? hell no.

[chibilombax]

For the game to have such a low rating is actually really not fair. Knowing Bioware wants money however I really can't complain over the price drop. I just stopped caring about them at this point.

[jspiess]

Modifié par jspiess, 13 mars 2012 - 03:31 .

[cyclopsgd]

vigna wrote...

people should give honest reviews..not untruthful reviews..

they are honest the game is perfect but the ending just detroys everything that would make me want to play it again