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[Bravery1282]

dkear1 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...

You got what you were promised, the end of Shepards story.  Unless i'm missing something, please point it out to me, I don't mind being proved wrong.  I feel I got what I paid for, and am unaware of any false promises made.

Sorry, this is just not true.

"Walters: Obviously, Mass Effect 3 will reveal all; that's the point of Mass Effect 3, we tie up a lot of those loose ends." 

Taken from: http://www.newsarama...iew-110726.html

There are tons of these type of quotes out there from Hudson as well.  There are threads with lists of unanswered questions.  Not just the glaringly obvious ones like the fate of your crew.

Could you tell me what was not revealed?  Is it just the whole "where did the crew end up" or "how did the races make it".  There will be a 4th game.  The loose ends from the previous games, at least from what i'm recalling have been tied up.

Edit:
It is going on midnight and i'm getting tired, so I may be omitting something.

Modifié par Bravery1282, 13 mars 2012 - 04:05 .

[Jake71887]

Bravery1282 wrote...
There will be a 4th game. 

If the fan reactions continue in this trend, it's possible that there will in fact not be a 4th game. 

[CyanidPontifex]

No matter how nice a bridge may be, it will still collapse if someone leaves out a critical piece.

[Bravery1282]

Jake71887 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...
There will be a 4th game. 

If the fan reactions continue in this trend, it's possible that there will in fact not be a 4th game. 

with the sales this game has done and will do, there will be a 4th game. As the great Ojay's say "Money, Money, Money Money..............Money"  And, there is too much that can still be told in this universe.  Especially now that there are races that are stuck.  Think of all the conflict that can and probably will arise.

[dkear1]

Um....You did play the game yes?
1. The fleet you brought
2. What is left of the hammer force.
3. You mother - is she still alive
4. The fate of those you met and helped on the citadel for the past 3 games.
5. Ashley's sister
6. The Turians on their homeworld
7. Wrex and all the others of your former crew.

hell that i could do from memory. As I said pop over to other threads for 100 plus item lists. There was no closure.

As for an ME4 - NO!!!! This was said to be the END of the series for several year now. Besides with the gates destroyed in all three color swatches how can it still truly be call Mass Effect anymore?

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Bravery1282 wrote...

Could you tell me what was not revealed?  Is it just the whole "where did the crew end up" or "how did the races make it".  There will be a 4th game.  The loose ends from the previous games, at least from what i'm recalling have been tied up.

Edit:
It is going on midnight and i'm getting tired, so I may be omitting something.

Pretty much everything related to the star child, what he actually was, what inspired him to his insane solution, explanation into why the Catalyst convinced him that his solution failed, explanation into how the catalyst is even capable of giving us "different options" when we know the Reapers aren't even responsible for its construction, amongst others.

[SandTrout]

Bravery1282 wrote...

Could you tell me what was not revealed?  Is it just the whole "where did the crew end up" or "how did the races make it".  There will be a 4th game.  The loose ends from the previous games, at least from what i'm recalling have been tied up.

Edit:
It is going on midnight and i'm getting tired, so I may be omitting something.

So your answer is that "Of course they're not going to reveal all or tie up all the loose ends, thats what ME4 is for!"?

Not sure if serious or trolling...

[Lexagg]

WHAT is going too far? We haven't hurt anyone, we haven't done any internet terrorising like Anonymous do. All we have done was occupied ONE forum on BSN and started a few social network groups. No one was organizing those terrible reviews on Amazon or Metacritic, it's genuine reaction of disappointed fans.

[Jake71887]

Bravery1282 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...
There will be a 4th game. 

If the fan reactions continue in this trend, it's possible that there will in fact not be a 4th game. 

with the sales this game has done and will do, there will be a 4th game. As the great Ojay's say "Money, Money, Money Money..............Money"  And, there is too much that can still be told in this universe.  Especially now that there are races that are stuck.  Think of all the conflict that can and probably will arise.

The fact that this game has done well in initial sales does say soemthing; but with it's dropping price, poor player reviews, and what I imagine will be a poor response to any DLC released that doesn't address the endings? You can quickly see EA pulling funding for a 4th game. It's not just about past sales, it's about future projections, and with the cost behind making these games.. It'd be risky at best. That is of course assuming reactions trend this way, like I said.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

If there is an extension of the trilogy and a ME4...man. How that very, super highly unlikely proposition was pitched would be everything. I want to save the galaxy, not play Fallout in Space: Your Friends Starved.

It's a weird thing: we need ME to be successful but if it fails it kind of helps the cause of ME...? I don't really care anymore about the universe's future as a product. If it leads to a good ending, it leads to a good ending and then all is right with the world.

Modifié par PKchu, 13 mars 2012 - 04:14 .

[rvgifford]

Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!

No. Bioware faltered with DA2 and shook my trust. With this they've lost it. They can re-earn it, but we'll see. No response to the mass of angry fans isn't helping. If my lunch were 95% the tastiest meal ever topped with arsenic I'd pass, thank you very much.

I do agree that the game was amazing, until that last 5%, but that doesn't make it a good or amazing game taken in whole. The game is the sum of its parts and one part is broken. I played War in the North and hit a bug that corrupted my save and couldn't finish the game. This is still worse than that.

[Bravery1282]

dkear1 wrote...

Um....You did play the game yes?
1. The fleet you brought
2. What is left of the hammer force.
3. You mother - is she still alive
4. The fate of those you met and helped on the citadel for the past 3 games.
5. Ashley's sister
6. The Turians on their homeworld
7. Wrex and all the others of your former crew.

hell that i could do from memory. As I said pop over to other threads for 100 plus item lists. There was no closure.

As for an ME4 - NO!!!! This was said to be the END of the series for several year now. Besides with the gates destroyed in all three color swatches how can it still truly be call Mass Effect anymore?

1. Not left out, some made it some didn't.  They could've done a better job showing who got of the ship, though. 
2. In my first playthrough they died, blown out the sky
3. Yes, Maybe. She was always a back, back story.  She was an email, the drunk friend in the Citadel was more fleshed out.
4. The fate of every single idividual, lol
5. Another back story. But, Ashley, did tell you what happened to them.
6.  The one that weren't killed by the reapers are safe now.
7. See answer 1.  They could've done a better job with that. But, some did make it.  They didn't do a good job with which ones.

[CBGB]

Bioware had a rare chance with ME3 to make an extraordinarily satisfying experience: the story-world was well-established, the fan base excited, and the narrative arc ready for meaningful conclusion. It was the writing opportunity of a lifetime.

And they chose tone over truth. A good ending might have been sad or might have been joyful - probably a bit of both - but it certainly would have fit both the existing story and the choices of your character.

Their ending makes all the rest of your choices a little smaller... so, yes, all this attention on the ending is merited. It's where the attention should have been from the start.

Modifié par CBGB, 13 mars 2012 - 04:21 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

OP I'm sorry but this is the only way to deal with businesses these days. Being nice and asking for something better does not help not unless it affects profits. The only way, apparently to make BioWare talk or do something about it is to threaten their profits. Now I don't condone behavior like baseless reviews that give games 0s like in Metacritic but I can certainly understand why that is happening. I can also say that even though I don't support, BioWare deserves regardless of the endings' validity or not.

If the endings are all just indoctrination or a dream, it is still not a move that BioWare should have pulled. Everyone is on edge and to some people this series means a lot and BioWare knew it. You don't just say "oh it was a dream/indoctrination its okay" and then sell us the real endings as DLC. Its a pretty bad way to treat the customer. Even if they do fix it, I bet it will take years before anyone ever trusts BIoWare they way they used, I know I won't.

[Bravery1282]

SandTrout wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...

Could you tell me what was not revealed?  Is it just the whole "where did the crew end up" or "how did the races make it".  There will be a 4th game.  The loose ends from the previous games, at least from what i'm recalling have been tied up.

Edit:
It is going on midnight and i'm getting tired, so I may be omitting something.

So your answer is that "Of course they're not going to reveal all or tie up all the loose ends, thats what ME4 is for!"?

Not sure if serious or trolling...

Your calling me a troll.  And, I could sling insults your way, but i'm not.  You quoted what I wrote and then made you own quote up for mine, lol.

[Bravery1282]

Jake71887 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...
There will be a 4th game. 

If the fan reactions continue in this trend, it's possible that there will in fact not be a 4th game. 

with the sales this game has done and will do, there will be a 4th game. As the great Ojay's say "Money, Money, Money Money..............Money"  And, there is too much that can still be told in this universe.  Especially now that there are races that are stuck.  Think of all the conflict that can and probably will arise.

The fact that this game has done well in initial sales does say soemthing; but with it's dropping price, poor player reviews, and what I imagine will be a poor response to any DLC released that doesn't address the endings? You can quickly see EA pulling funding for a 4th game. It's not just about past sales, it's about future projections, and with the cost behind making these games.. It'd be risky at best. That is of course assuming reactions trend this way, like I said.

You could be right.  But, they've always said that this isnt the end of Mass Effect, just Shepards story.  Has the price dropped? I don't think it has.

[dkear1]

Bravery1282 wrote...
1. Not left out, some made it some didn't.  They could've done a better job showing who got of the ship, though. 
2. In my first playthrough they died, blown out the sky
3. Yes, Maybe. She was always a back, back story.  She was an email, the drunk friend in the Citadel was more fleshed out.
4. The fate of every single idividual, lol
5. Another back story. But, Ashley, did tell you what happened to them.
6.  The one that weren't killed by the reapers are safe now.
7. See answer 1.  They could've done a better job with that. But, some did make it.  They didn't do a good job with which ones.

Um...hammer was the ground force and unless you didn't have any EMS, they didn't die in the air (#2).
And your crew stranded on a planet that is where?  Is not closure....sorry.
Your mom is your mom..so back story or not it is relevent.
I didn't ask for every single person but the central figures....yea kinda would like to know if any made it.
The list wasn't meant to be exhaustive it was meant to show that they didn't do crap to wrap up things.  No epilogue.  In what is to be a ending of shepard's story this is kinda a big deal.

[Bravery1282]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...

Could you tell me what was not revealed?  Is it just the whole "where did the crew end up" or "how did the races make it".  There will be a 4th game.  The loose ends from the previous games, at least from what i'm recalling have been tied up.

Edit:
It is going on midnight and i'm getting tired, so I may be omitting something.

Pretty much everything related to the star child, what he actually was, what inspired him to his insane solution, explanation into why the Catalyst convinced him that his solution failed, explanation into how the catalyst is even capable of giving us "different options" when we know the Reapers aren't even responsible for its construction, amongst others.

I thought the Catalyst was a VI talking **** and that whole Matrix theory.  You know, organics created the machines to destroy other organics, and eventually the machines....  But, you are right, they didn't do the best job explaining the end.  Still, I actually liked the ending experience.

[dkear1]

Bravery1282 wrote...
You could be right.  But, they've always said that this isnt the end of Mass Effect, just Shepards story.  Has the price dropped? I don't think it has.

yea, on amazon they are showing a price cut on certain versions and the number of "new" third party offerings at 3/4 pricing (no doubt unopened returns) is growing.

EDIT: the price drop for the PS3 version is now gone back to the normal price.

Modifié par dkear1, 13 mars 2012 - 04:32 .

[Jake71887]

Bravery1282 wrote...
You could be right.  But, they've always said that this isnt the end of Mass Effect, just Shepards story.  Has the price dropped? I don't think it has.

It has, not much... But this close to launch every penny is a statement... And their intentions are meaningless if they don't have the funds to go through with them. EA is big business and statistics.... If their numbers point to another game not being profitable, it's unlikely they'll approve it. 

[Walrusninja]

95% of it is staggeringly good. it's the "lol let's just throw some random bs together and not bother with conclusion" ending. It was just, out of character, absurd, shocking and pathetic. I've enver seen my opinion a game or company plummit quite so fast.

[Bravery1282]

dkear1 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...
1. Not left out, some made it some didn't.  They could've done a better job showing who got of the ship, though. 
2. In my first playthrough they died, blown out the sky
3. Yes, Maybe. She was always a back, back story.  She was an email, the drunk friend in the Citadel was more fleshed out.
4. The fate of every single idividual, lol
5. Another back story. But, Ashley, did tell you what happened to them.
6.  The one that weren't killed by the reapers are safe now.
7. See answer 1.  They could've done a better job with that. But, some did make it.  They didn't do a good job with which ones.

Um...hammer was the ground force and unless you didn't have any EMS, they didn't die in the air (#2).
And your crew stranded on a planet that is where?  Is not closure....sorry.
Your mom is your mom..so back story or not it is relevent.
I didn't ask for every single person but the central figures....yea kinda would like to know if any made it.
The list wasn't meant to be exhaustive it was meant to show that they didn't do crap to wrap up things.  No epilogue.  In what is to be a ending of shepard's story this is kinda a big deal.

Okay, not blown out the sky, blown off the planet.

They rest you are just grasping at straws. Back stories have only ever been relevant to flesh out main characters, which was done.  So, what kind of narrative are you looking for, if not for every person you helped.  As far as the crew stranded on a planet "where", to me thats no important.  The important thing is some made okay, and have the chance to star life fresh, and get to rediscover.  And, none of the crew where fools, so im certain they'd make it.  Gilligan did.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Bravery1282 wrote...

I thought the Catalyst was a VI talking **** and that whole Matrix theory.  You know, organics created the machines to destroy other organics, and eventually the machines....  But, you are right, they didn't do the best job explaining the end.  Still, I actually liked the ending experience.

Far as the story presented it, the Catalyst was an AI. And claims to be controlling the Reapers, which are composed of independent identities far as we're aware (each a nation). If he's the one responsible for all this happening, if this is his answer to the cycle, then it should be more than just "synthetics will always oppose organics", especially when a good amount of Mass Effect 3 was spent going against his judgments. 

And just to be clear, I'm not saying you can't like the ending. Just pointing out why many of us consider it a copout.  

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 13 mars 2012 - 04:38 .

[Bravery1282]

Jake71887 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...
You could be right.  But, they've always said that this isnt the end of Mass Effect, just Shepards story.  Has the price dropped? I don't think it has.

It has, not much... But this close to launch every penny is a statement... And their intentions are meaningless if they don't have the funds to go through with them. EA is big business and statistics.... If their numbers point to another game not being profitable, it's unlikely they'll approve it. 

dkear1 wrote...

Bravery1282 wrote...
You could be right.  But, they've always said that this isnt the end of Mass Effect, just Shepards story.  Has the price dropped? I don't think it has.

yea, on amazon they are showing a price cut on certain versions and the number of "new" third party offerings at 3/4 pricing (no doubt unopened returns) is growing.

EDIT: the price drop for the PS3 version is now gone back to the normal price.

 

Wasn't aware.  Lol, I like how you put new third party in quotations.  I bout a "new" Ralph Tresvant cd a few years back from a private seller.  Thought it was a deal, 3.99, it looked like they rapped it themselves. 

[Reptilian Rob]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

more like 99.9%. which makes the fact that they could kill the entire franchise for me in such a short space of time nothing short of amazing.

it really is a stunning acomplishment

Confirmed that 99% of the development went into this amazing feat.