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Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!

chill out guy

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Those of us that have tried to give thoughtful and civil critiques of the ending are now finding ourselves a little sickened by the vindictive attacks on BioWare and its staff. Backlashes sometimes create their own backlashes. This isn't the Russian Revolution. Let's keep things civil - I know it's hard in this day and age.

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Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!


THEY erased it from history.
THEY took a wonderful universe and maliciously destroyed it.

It's THEIR fault, and if they don't fix it then I will have no part of Mass Effect ever again.

Modifié par The Angry One, 13 mars 2012 - 12:53 .


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Personally have little interest in making demand and thinking that I am forcing the company to do something about my dissatisfaction. There's line between delusion and voicing unhappy opinion. It's good to have hope but rationality must be conserved.

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Making a game that is 99% brilliant just makes it even worse. They have killed the entire series in the last 5 minutes by totally dismissing your choices and dodging any kind of closure and conclusion to the decisions you made in the last games. Without that, the entire story is rendered irrelevant.

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99.9% game was probably greatest video game that I ever played so far in my life, characters were so dear to me .... just the ending led to biggest WTF in video game history (my opinion) lol

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The Angry One wrote...

THEY erased it from history.
THEY took a wonderful universe and maliciously destroyed it like a bunch of vandals.

It's THEIR fault, and if they don't fix it then I will have no part of Mass Effect ever again.


One other little point.  Bioware does NOT have a instant right to my money.  They have to earn it.

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Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!


There is no faith/trust.  Even if they completely rewrote the ending and gave it to people for free, the damage is still done.  Keep in mind thats something they wont do either.  Every other options (halucination needs explanation, DLC is criminal and I wont buy it, or just telling us doesn't fix anything.)

I played a game and left with an impression.  Even if its not what bioware intended, they have still failed. 

If a product can't stand up on its own (no explanations, no dlc, no nothing), they have yet again failed. 

ME 3 is a failure.

Modifié par Wattoes, 13 mars 2012 - 12:55 .


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Qutayba wrote...

Those of us that have tried to give thoughtful and civil critiques of the ending are now finding ourselves a little sickened by the vindictive attacks on BioWare and its staff. Backlashes sometimes create their own backlashes. This isn't the Russian Revolution. Let's keep things civil - I know it's hard in this day and age.


That!

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ynh wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

Free Market goes both ways. Don't tell us "it's our product, we do with it what we want" then cry like a baby when you suffer the backlash from market forces.

Free Market is ruthless. Free Market is unkind. Most people don't like -real- free Market, where Consumers have equal power to Producers, they like Corporate-centric Free Market, where consumers are money filled Pinata's that can be whacked open over and over.

Don't like it? Get out of the free Market.


Thousand times this.

Don't take the risks if you can't handle them.



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Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!


They can end this any time they want. 

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THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

We demand better endings!

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Qutayba wrote...

Those of us that have tried to give thoughtful and civil critiques of the ending are now finding ourselves a little sickened by the vindictive attacks on BioWare and its staff. Backlashes sometimes create their own backlashes. This isn't the Russian Revolution. Let's keep things civil - I know it's hard in this day and age.


Honestly, I am just working out how I feel about it today. I finished the game last night, sat back and had a beer and watched some TV. I was very sad it was all over at the time, so I decided to give it a day.

Over the day today, I have realized that the fact that it has consumed my thoughts is testament in and of itself. I am not totally happy with it, but it was a great ride overall.

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Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!


DA2....

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This game is way better than the crap it is getting from people that are blowing the endings way out of proportion. It is arguably the best game in the series.

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Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!



People like you will put our efforts in vain. :o

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Skirata129 wrote...

more like 99.9%. which makes the fact that they could kill the entire franchise for me in such a short space of time nothing short of amazing.


well they are master story tellers.:)

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Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!


Yes it is, but like most films and books a good beginning and a good end is CRITICAL to something that is not only well recieved but also something that you'll love for a long time.  Sadly ME3 doesn't fullfill the END part, either on it's own or as part of a trilogy.

Add to that the fact that many people (rightly) feel they were lied to/given false promises to purchase the game and you've got some displeasure.

Cheers.  McBeath.

PS.  I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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P_sutherland wrote...

indeed it is.

and oce the ending is fixed we can cheer on bioware... until then "hold the line!"

This.

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Too far?

When the reapers attacked the citadel was it too far to destroy soverign?

When the Illusive Man told Shepard to save the Collector Base, was it too far to blow it the hell up?

When the reapers invaded Earth was it too far to rally all the sentients in the galaxy to oppose them?

Then let us take it too far!

(In retrospect, if you're going to anger a large portion of your fan base, it probably is not a good idea to do it around a game whose entire narative frame work is about banding together to fight an unstoppable juggernaut no matter what the cost)

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nothings ever to far my friend its a matter of how far are you willing to take it? in my opinion if we keep trolling and cynical views out of the equation BioWare might considered they are a great developer and this hole is like sprinting on an amazing field of awesomness only to plummet off a cliff you never saw coming and landing on the ground and all you can think is "WTF just happened?"

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Xion66 wrote...

I've seen much more thought, heart, and argumentation in all threads against the endings, while in the anti-anti-endings group, i've mostly just seen dismissive, hollier-than thou and, cynical attitudes.


Me too. I'm sort of amazed at how the majority of the people are presenting themselves in a rational, thoughtful way.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

This game is way better than the crap it is getting from people that are blowing the endings way out of proportion. It is arguably the best game in the series.


Casey Hudson interview + Structure of the games. 

We got scammed for our money on ME3.

Plus, aside from jokes to keep our spirits up, this has been a highly composed reaction. 

Modifié par Aedan276, 13 mars 2012 - 12:58 .


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Have a little trust, you say? That's kinda hard after having gotten burned first by DA2 and now ME3.

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SamFlagg wrote...

Too far?

When the reapers attacked the citadel was it too far to destroy soverign?

When the Illusive Man told Shepard to save the Collector Base, was it too far to blow it the hell up?

When the reapers invaded Earth was it too far to rally all the sentients in the galaxy to oppose them?

Then let us take it too far!

(In retrospect, if you're going to anger a large portion of your fan base, it probably is not a good idea to do it around a game whose entire narative frame work is about banding together to fight an unstoppable juggernaut no matter what the cost)


THIS.  And Waffles.  Shepard at some point needs to make Waffles for his LI.   Because.