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[bkp360]

acidproof2 wrote...

A bad experience deserves a bad review. If you go to a nice restaurant and find a nail and a hair in your food do you give them a pass because 95% of it was good?

I found a hair and a nail in my game....

[Femmefatality07]

crymzenassassin wrote...

ThePrestige10 wrote...

Nothing is going too far. 99,5 % is a masterpiece until the end ruins it all and all the other games too. Bioware just failed awfully. Sry to say.

HOW in the LIVING HELL did it ruin ALL the other games? the hell is that shenanigans...im pretty sure if you go back and play mass effect 1 and 2 they will still be amazing games with amazing stories....and ME3 is still an amazing game regardless of the ending.

after reading around a little i can understand where people are coming from but to say it ruins the other games aswell is just a step too far

Im positive that knowing the ending for ME 3, which is the end to the trilogy..which is the accumilative of EVERYTHING you did (supposedly) from ME 1 and 2, it's still gonna make you go...

"...yet, it's all for nothing."

I think that's what the poster is trying to get at.

IE: Smiles as you Virmire Ashley, **** Kaidan, and stop Saren and Harbinger...yet, you STILL know what's going to happen in ME 3 kinda kills that joy very quickly.

[keekee53]

Those endings went too far

[Neccrid]

"I DEMAND ACTION!"

[crymzenassassin]

personaly when i play a game i concentrate on
what is happening regardless of how many times i have played it or if i
have played the sequal so i won;t be thinking about how it ends in ME3 while im playing ME2. i don't have a problem with the way things ended
in mass effect 3 as i have faith that BW will deliever content that
closes things off.

if you all think about it logicaly..this is
shepards last and possibly the normandy crews last run, they created not
just one..but many gaming icons..Liara,Garrus,Shepard,Wrex, Kaiden,
Ashley, EDI and Joker. it makes sence to me that bioware would hold off
on some major closure and draw it out as best they can so they can
release some kick ass content for us all to enjoy in the future.

i do not have a problem with that.

Modifié par crymzenassassin, 13 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[nitefyre410]

Bioware made their bed.. and it sad that for the most part what is a great game... is not getting torn shreds for the last 5 minutes of nonsensical endings. Unfortunately - this is way that it is- they should have thought about that before peddling those endings to us.

[Lookout1390]

You know what's going too far?

Destroying 5 years of loyalty and hype in 15 minutes.

[granyte]

meh my shepard just took it's third beam to the face (i almost have all the colors of the rainbow colected) and is waitign his lift off the citadel

also i guess the blast joker is trying to escape is the citadel blowing up after he picked shepard up but EA put a to short dead line and the CG scene was never completed

[crymzenassassin]

Lookout1390 wrote...

You know what's going too far?

Destroying 5 years of loyalty and hype in 15 minutes.

you can't really call it loyalty if thats all it takes for it to be destroyed

[loungeshep]

crymzenassassin wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

You know what's going too far?

Destroying 5 years of loyalty and hype in 15 minutes.

you can't really call it loyalty if thats all it takes for it to be destroyed

Agreed.

[K_Tabris]

Skirata129 wrote...

more like 99.9%. which makes the fact that they could kill the entire franchise for me in such a short space of time nothing short of amazing.

It was wonderful, until we get to the catalyst.  WUT DA FOOK.

Seriously, this was the buiggest piece of sh** ending ever, and I regret being a gamer more than ever.

[MorSterling]

No it´s not. Building up hype and having the loyalty of a lot of people for several years and then destroying it with what´s obviously a cheap solution ending is going to far.

[mupp3tz]

HOW in the LIVING HELL did it ruin ALL the other games? the hell is that shenanigans...im pretty sure if you go back and play mass effect 1 and 2 they will still be amazing games with amazing stories....and ME3 is still an amazing game regardless of the ending.

after reading around a little i can understand where people are coming from but to say it ruins the other games aswell is just a step too far

NO ONE is condeming the other games.  If you look at Amazon and MetaCritic, ME1 and ME2 have maintained high ratings... the clear issue is with ME3.  The point is that your time spent on ME1 and ME2 were wasted due to what inevitably happens at the end of 3.  No one is saying that they weren't great games in themselves.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 13 mars 2012 - 02:04 .

[HKR148]

loungeshep wrote...

crymzenassassin wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

You know what's going too far?

Destroying 5 years of loyalty and hype in 15 minutes.

you can't really call it loyalty if thats all it takes for it to be destroyed

Agreed.

Loyalty is subjective in many ways, and being loyal to a corporation is quite a dangerous thing to do. However, trust can be quite fragile, I had reason to trust the Bioware's product for some time. Sure Dragon Age II's overall quality have shaken some of my trust, but Mass Effect 3's conclusion was simply unacceptable.

The only decent action to take is just be consistent with what I've been doing. Voicing my disproval constructively, respectfully and rationally while also telling them under what condition will I decide to continue purchasing their product otherwise the deal is off for Bioware's future products. (Unless they show me clear evidence of cleaning up the act, infrastructure reform, freedom from outside influence, continuous product of acceptable products after years of observation.)

[Duraiden]

TheBandit554 wrote...

 SRSLY? Have you no faith? Have you now given up on five years of work only to **** on forums? NO, this is amazing what they have done, look at the community, uniting, theorizing new plots. WE ARE MASS EFFECT. Bioware will have DLC that makes this game even better and it will be from our feedback. The endings now are poetic and mysterious because they were MEANT TO BE. It's for us to think until new content arrives, we'll have closure so stop giving them ****, they are probably in hell right now with this response

The endings are not mysterious and poetic. They are vague, obtuse, and jarring. The Crucibles ability to interact with the Citadel is never explained, the God Child says that Shepard is the first Organic to get that far and the God Child is surpised at the abilities granted by the Crucible. So he didn't create it, and clearly no civilization before Shepards knew of it, so where did it come from and how could it possibly be designed to do something and interact with something no one knew about.

Another problem arises, the God Child is a Synthetic that exists to keep Synthetics from rising up and wiping out all organic life because that's an inevitibility. Which makes no sense at all, since it's proven that isn't the case since it as a synthetic hasn't wiped out all organic life.

There's also a big problem with regards to the fact that the Citadel is essentially the Reaper Boss, as this means that Soverign's entire existance was a giant McGuffin. Why did the need Soverign when the Citadel could easily monitor any infomation and relay it to the Reapers, why didn't it warn Soverign about what the Protheans had done, infact why were the protheans even allowed to do what they did when the Citadel could have easily killed and/or indoctrinated them?

Also, when given the choices, why is the Illusive Man's choice, the one that is the Paragon when he's been a primary antagonist throughout the series and anytime you went with him in the past it was a Renegade Choice? Even worse, why do you have to kill yourself to control the reapers? You're talking to the God Child, the one who controls the reapers, and he's saying "You can make us leave if you want, you can destory us if you want, or you can merge all Synthetic and Organic Life". But if he's already allowing you to make those choices, why do you have to die for any of them save for Synthesis? It's not like you're defying him and running to the control board and forcing control over them at the cost of your life, or desperately trying to destroy the reapers before his kills you. He stands there and offers to let you decide.

[Skirata129]

loungeshep wrote...

crymzenassassin wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

You know what's going too far?

Destroying 5 years of loyalty and hype in 15 minutes.

you can't really call it loyalty if thats all it takes for it to be destroyed

Agreed.

I disagree. I trust my best friend, but if she ever did something like this to me, it would completely destroy our friendship. This was a profound betrayal of trust. The fact that I explained this to my friends who never played, and their reaction was asking if this was some small developer who didn't care screwing over their fanbase says a lot.

[Neccrid]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Neccrid wrote...

"I DEMAND ACTION!"

Settle down, Neccrid.

This is an OUTRAGE. The developers would intervine if this was a ... Ahh forget it. I dont feel like being Udina anymore.

I can't go on with Mass Effect

Modifié par Neccrid, 13 mars 2012 - 02:10 .

[Kloborgg711]

It's not "shenanigans" when we say ME3 ruined ME and ME2. I don't suddenly hate ME for itself. It's still one of the best games I've ever played. But now that will be past tense, because I get no enjoyment from playing through it anymore, and that's a direct result of the ending of ME3. Same goes the rest of ME3 and ME2.

[Reptilian Rob]

kbct wrote...

The complaints are all over the Internet. BioWare should respond, no?.

Don't hold your breath, they will never admit defeat. 

[gmboy902]

Yeah, people who go on Metacritic and bomb the rating don't help. Mass Effect 3 is a spectacular game. One of, if not the, best story/action game I have ever played. The fact that the endings sucks don't make stabbing Kai Leng less badass, or watching Mordin sacrifice himself to cure the Krogan any less bittersweet. The plot is great, the missions are great, the action/combat is great, just the endings suck.

HOW in the LIVING HELL did it ruin ALL the other games? the hell is that
shenanigans...im pretty sure if you go back and play mass effect 1 and 2
they will still be amazing games with amazing stories....and ME3 is
still an amazing game regardless of the ending.

after reading
around a little i can understand where people are coming from but to say
it ruins the other games aswell is just a step too far

Because all three games are heavily story driven. And the people who complain about the endings like the story, obviously, and don't want it to end poorly. In Mass Effect, I met Sovereign and thought "Damn, s**t's going down, when the Reapers finally come it'll be epic". In Mass Effect 2, after escaping the base in an epic action sequence, and saw them approaching from dark space, I thought "Damn, that's a lot of Reapers, this is going to be epic". So now that I know the ending, the effect that the entire plot had is kind of gone. Mass Effect isn't episodic. The entire plot, from the moment you land on Eden Prime, builds up to one moment, that one moment being when you... go up to the citadel, talk to God-boy, and initiate some cheap excuse for an ending? No. That ruins the first two games, at least plot-wise. Action-wise, less so.

Modifié par gmboy902, 13 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[xeNNN]

you know what? im actually getting annoyed with people calling us this that and the other (though i expected all this as did and do most of us)

we have been civil, we have been creative and we've constantly been discussing this issue and trying to make a difference without going over the top with our arguments emotions or sentiments about something we've spent quite a long time building up and enjoying only to be ripped away by something that never should of been added or put in should never have even been comprehended as a good ending to a story that deserved 100x better than it was given.

the people who write these articles claiming we are "spoilt brats" and that we are "immature" and "childish" are people that are dont actually even play the series or people who have just sped through them and dont understand the drama(ironically everything they call us they end up being themselves in the way they right their articles) yet we are apparently the bad guys in all of this?.

you say we could kill the series by doing this, we're defending the series we love and we have the right as a community to stand up for what we loved and enjoyed, this game deserves far better than its given in terms of the ending.
the series in itself is amazing, but then you add that ending onto it and it seems like you've just wasted 5 years on nothing.

Modifié par xeNNN, 13 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[dkear1]

gmboy902 wrote...

Yeah, people who go on Metacritic and bomb the rating don't help. Mass Effect 3 is a spectacular game. One of, if not the, best story/action game I have ever played. The fact that the endings sucks don't make stabbing Kai Leng less badass, or watching Mordin sacrifice himself to cure the Krogan any less bittersweet. The plot is great, the missions are great, the action/combat is great, just the endings suck.

If you have a better idea, then present it.  Getting a company's attention is a difficult thing to do.  Their wallet is one of the quickest and easiest targets.  Perhaps not the best solution but it still remains A solution.

Modifié par dkear1, 13 mars 2012 - 02:18 .

[LinksOcarina]

Im glad this hate is going on.

It shows how much you love the game...in a backhanded sense...

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 13 mars 2012 - 02:19 .

[GreyhameBioware]

My wife, who has never played any of the games so doesn't know any of the proceeding story or have any attachment to the characters (though she has played DA:O and DA2 so she's familiar with Bioware games), thought that the endings were crap.

Does it deserve to be rating bombed? Probably not since most of the game (including the co-op) is fun and well put together, and the story is great up until you meet The Catalyst. After that, the story take a nose dive down into some abyss that has caused many fans to be very angered, which has caused the rating bombing. The rating bombing is not because people want a different ending, but because (for many reasons explained elsewhere) the ending sucked. Whether or not it get them to change it, that's the reality.