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[crymzenassassin]

xeNNN wrote...

you know what? im actually getting annoyed with people calling us this that and the other (though i expected all this as did and do most of us)

we have been civil, we have been creative and we've constantly been discussing this issue and trying to make a difference without going over the top with our arguments emotions or sentiments about something we've spent quite a long time building up and enjoying only to be ripped away by something that never should of been added or put in should never have even been comprehended as a good ending to a story that deserved 100x better than it was given.

the people who write these articles claiming we are "spoilt brats" and that we are "immature" and "childish" are people that are dont actually even play the series or people who have just sped through them and dont understand the drama(ironically everything they call us they end up being themselves in the way they right their articles).

the fact that you say we could kill the series by doing this, we're defending the series we love and we have the right as a community to stand up for what we loved and enjoyed, this game deserves far better than its given in terms of the ending.
the series in itself is amazing, but then you add that ending onto it and it seems like you've just wasted 5 years on nothing.

you are right...people do have a right to stand for what you loved and enjoyed but think about it this way..when people say stuff like "oh BW you have DESTROYED THE ENTIRE MASS EFFECT SERIES WITH 2% OF A GAME!" it puts a major downer on the devs...they worked damn hard to bring us one of the greatest trilogies in gaming history and if i was them and i was reading people saying that i destroyed the entire series.

i would say screw you guys and good luck trying to find another studio that can make the kinds of games we can

[dkear1]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Im glad this hate is going on.

It shows how much you love the game...in a sense...

Exactly, if folks didn't love this series they would just say, oh well, return it for credit and move on.

[gmboy902]

dkear1 wrote...

If you have a better idea the present it.  Getting a company's attention is a difficult thing to do.  Their wallet is one of the quickest and easiest targets.  Perhaps not the best solution but it still remains A solution.

Make your own decisions about the money. What's more important to you - more DLC, or getting a proper ending? It's fine if you boycott it. But don't deceive other people into thinking it's an awful game (they'll look at the user score, see it's low, move on to another game). Don't try to influence other people's decision on whether to buy or not without them knowing exactly why you gave it a 1 rating.

[crymzenassassin]

dkear1 wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Im glad this hate is going on.

It shows how much you love the game...in a sense...

Exactly, if folks didn't love this series they would just say, oh well, return it for credit and move on.

if by "return it for credit" you mean trade in..then i wouldn't say not doing that shows love...alot of people buy digitaly..i own all 3 games through digital download and i couldn't trade them in even if i wanted to

Modifié par crymzenassassin, 13 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[LinksOcarina]

dkear1 wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Im glad this hate is going on.

It shows how much you love the game...in a sense...

Exactly, if folks didn't love this series they would just say, oh well, return it for credit and move on.

That was a backhanded compliment on this entire thing. Were all fans, but to dismiss a game over one aspect of it is just as foolish as dismissing a movie for a single scene, be it the beginning or the end.

[dkear1]

crymzenassassin wrote...
you are right...people do have a right to stand for what you loved and enjoyed but think about it this way..when people say stuff like "oh BW you have DESTROYED THE ENTIRE MASS EFFECT SERIES WITH 2% OF A GAME!" it puts a major downer on the devs...they worked damn hard to bring us one of the greatest trilogies in gaming history and if i was them and i was reading people saying that i destroyed the entire series.

i would say screw you guys and good luck trying to find another studio that can make the kinds of games we can

Well, the truth can hurt.  The honest fact is they dumped a turd of an ending and in the opinion of many DID ruin the series with it.  Don't they have the right to their opinion? 

[LadyMalstroem]

Iefho wrote...

Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

BioWare did that all on their own. If anything, the upset fans are trying to resurrect it.

[Militarized]

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

People are morons, let them fight something that doesn't exist all they want.

I am beginning to understand banks not giving a damn about protesters, i might just support them in fact.

That's a great analogy. Support the ones screwing you over because you're ignorant.

Modifié par Militarized, 13 mars 2012 - 02:23 .

[crymzenassassin]

dkear1 wrote...


Well, the truth can hurt.  The honest fact is they dumped a turd of an ending and in the opinion of many DID ruin the series with it.  Don't they have the right to their opinion? 

everyone can have an opinion..it is my opinion that mass effect 1 and 2 are still amazing games..it is my opinion that mass effect 3 is an amazing game and i have faith bioware had a plan long before people started this crusade

[dkear1]

LinksOcarina wrote...
That was a backhanded compliment on this entire thing. Were all fans, but to dismiss a game over one aspect of it is just as foolish as dismissing a movie for a single scene, be it the beginning or the end.

Actually, yes.  That is perhaps not the best analogy but films have bombed due to this before and will again.  People don't grade things on "well this half was great and then this half sucked".  For good or ill the whole thing is judged on the sum of its parts.  A hopeless ending can only work in certain conditions and with certain audiences.  This was the wrong game and the wrong audience to do it to.

Modifié par dkear1, 13 mars 2012 - 02:26 .

[NilsJeppe]

Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!

Actually, I absolutely would prefer not to have played ME3 at all. To me, the franchise is dead, ruined by those last ten minutes. If I can spare someone else from wasting 30-whatever hours and 45-75 Euro on an absolutely disappointing experience, then by the gods, I will.

"This cake is a masterpiece! Can't you ignore that they managed to charcoal it in the oven? Cut the baker some slack!" - No, thank you, that cake is ruined now.

[Kroepoek]

Iefho wrote...

Have a little trust in BW, for god's sake! And stop down spiralling this game into such bad reviews. Do you want to just erase that franchise from history?

This is going way too far. 95% of the game is a downright masterpiece!

They erased it from history themselfs. Funny no, what a little 5% can do. It takes quality writing to obliterate your whole franchise in five freaking minutes.

[Senario]

As consumers we are doing what we can to makes sure we get a product we are satisfied with. With ME3's Ending leaving so many plot wholes, the clear lack of creativity with certain aspects of the game (Final scene with trees and Tali's face).

As well as the supposed announced MULTIPLAYER DLC for the game...We are doing what we can to be heard instead of being laughed at while they count their profits. In fact by showing or not showing support with our wallets, we can effectively get bioware to respond. Hold the Line!

[dkear1]

gmboy902 wrote...

dkear1 wrote...

If you have a better idea the present it.  Getting a company's attention is a difficult thing to do.  Their wallet is one of the quickest and easiest targets.  Perhaps not the best solution but it still remains A solution.

Make your own decisions about the money. What's more important to you - more DLC, or getting a proper ending? It's fine if you boycott it. But don't deceive other people into thinking it's an awful game (they'll look at the user score, see it's low, move on to another game). Don't try to influence other people's decision on whether to buy or not without them knowing exactly why you gave it a 1 rating.

I have and did.  As the game stands right now in my opinion it is awfull.  They end ruined the series for me and I will tell others the truth as I see it.  You have the right and freedom to do as you please just as I do.

[crymzenassassin]

i guess gone are the days when a game was measured on the ammount of fun you had..personaly i had fun in mass effect 3 from begining to end as many others did. as a guy above me said "its a dissapointing experience"

correct me if im wrong but itsn't an experience the journey and not the destination?

[LinksOcarina]

dkear1 wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...
That was a backhanded compliment on this entire thing. Were all fans, but to dismiss a game over one aspect of it is just as foolish as dismissing a movie for a single scene, be it the beginning or the end.

Actually, yes.  That is perhaps not the best analogy but films have bombed due to this before and will again.  People don't grade things on "well this half was great and then this half sucked".  For good or ill the whole thing is judged on the sum of its parts.  A hopeless ending can only work in certain conditions and with certain audiences.  This was the wrong game and the wrong audience to do it to.

Not the wrong game for it (to be honest, I expected the galaxy to lose, mainly because it was too insurmountable for them to win) but I think the audience is what is really proven to be part of the issue. 

The ending works philosophically, but not practically. This is the problem people are having it seems to me. I am indifferent on the whole thing, but to dismiss five years of investment over 5 minutes of story just boggles my mind for some reason. 

So really, its both sides that need to cool down and then we can sort out things...

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 13 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[Voidster]

If they want to change the universe and get rid of the mass effect fields, tech, or etc Its "just fine".

What I WANT is closure. I want to know what happened to my crew, the people i worked to save, that i went through countless hours equipping, talking to, and doing missions for to make sure they survived. What happened to the galaxy after my choices?

Id really like for my commander to leave on a semi peaceful/happy note. Blue children, a good home. This is fantasy, not reality. However i can accept it if they say no, but I do NEED answers. Ive been a fan since the beginning, 5 years of game time. I hope BW isnt truly dumping on us like this. I hope its just a Evil EA marketing strategy.

[xeNNN]

crymzenassassin wrote...

xeNNN wrote...

you know what? im actually getting annoyed with people calling us this that and the other (though i expected all this as did and do most of us)

we have been civil, we have been creative and we've constantly been discussing this issue and trying to make a difference without going over the top with our arguments emotions or sentiments about something we've spent quite a long time building up and enjoying only to be ripped away by something that never should of been added or put in should never have even been comprehended as a good ending to a story that deserved 100x better than it was given.

the people who write these articles claiming we are "spoilt brats" and that we are "immature" and "childish" are people that are dont actually even play the series or people who have just sped through them and dont understand the drama(ironically everything they call us they end up being themselves in the way they right their articles).

the fact that you say we could kill the series by doing this, we're defending the series we love and we have the right as a community to stand up for what we loved and enjoyed, this game deserves far better than its given in terms of the ending.
the series in itself is amazing, but then you add that ending onto it and it seems like you've just wasted 5 years on nothing.

you are right...people do have a right to stand for what you loved and enjoyed but think about it this way..when people say stuff like "oh BW you have DESTROYED THE ENTIRE MASS EFFECT SERIES WITH 2% OF A GAME!" it puts a major downer on the devs...they worked damn hard to bring us one of the greatest trilogies in gaming history and if i was them and i was reading people saying that i destroyed the entire series.

i would say screw you guys and good luck trying to find another studio that can make the kinds of games we can

To be fair to them they have made a great and amazing series... but you cannot publish a book or a movie OR a game with a terrible ending it ruins the books and the movies...... like you watch a movie triolgy or a book triology you get into the characters and the storyline then you get to the end of the book or movie  and it brings no closure to anything you felt throughout the movie and/or book and you just end up feeling empty like you read it or watched it for nothing. 

i dont pressume to judge them and say they destroyed the entire series however, i cant actually defend them at this point considering the last 5 minutes left me a in a state of disbelief for 3 days now. "its so hard to make a house of cards but its so easy to knock it over", ive played since the beggining on my xbox obviously i didnt even know this forum existed till recently, and so ive brought the series twice with the execption of Mass effect 3  because i wanted to play the series on my pc as i was transfering everything over and because i didnt want to pirate it because i love the games i brought them(including rebuying all the DLC's and extra content). 

then i end up playing mass effect 3 spending 50 pounds on a preorder enjoy the game immensly up until the last 10 minutes where everything just becomes stupid and then it gets even worse and so it ends with me thinking ... so i just played all the mass effect games for nothing?  when you get attached to something it makes you react when it feels like its been ripped away(you feel cheated out of your time and money), so to go as far as to say they destroyed and entire series by ending it horribly with no closure to the fanbase isnt really that far to be honest.

Modifié par xeNNN, 13 mars 2012 - 02:36 .

[hippanda]

I wouldn't say 95%+ was a masterpiece. I'm still trying to figure out who got paid money to reduce the functionality of the quest journal.

[bkp360]

It isn't the fan and players who have rating bombed this game. the ME3 devs have to accept responsibility for the fact they fell in love with their own nonsense and figured we'd all just have to suck it up. SURPRISE! We didn't. Man you'd think EA would have had a few focus groups try out that freak show of an ending and some Suit with the checkbook would have gone Whooooaaaaa let's think this over....

[deathscythe517]

CAPSRAPE!!!

[dkear1]

crymzenassassin wrote...

i guess gone are the days when a game was measured on the ammount of fun you had..personaly i had fun in mass effect 3 from begining to end as many others did. as a guy above me said "its a dissapointing experience"

correct me if im wrong but itsn't an experience the journey and not the destination?

For you pehaps it is.  That is the same line that bioware used (do you work for them?).

The destination has ruined and soured my journey.  I was all set to play 1-3 with multiple characters after completing 3.  With that hopeless crappy ending...no.  Perhaps I will return to play 1 and 2 in a few months, but 3 won't see the light of day until they fix the ending.

[UltmtBiz]

When a big part of the draw for a series is the amazing story, it hits hard when it fails at one of the most important parts (if not THE most important part). I can accept Shep dying even if it's not what I want, but the rest of the end gave no satisfaction. Shep was already a legend before he died so that pat on the back didn't help at all either. But as has been said, amazing game...until the end.

[crymzenassassin]

xeNNN wrote...


To be fair to them they have made a great and amazing series... but you cannot publish a book or a movie OR a game with a terrible ending...... like you watch a movie triolgy or a book triology you get into the characters and the storyline then you get to the end of the book or movie  and it brings no closure to anything you felt throughout the movie and/or book and you just end up feeling empty like you read it or watched it for nothing. 

i dont pressume to judge them and say they destroyed the entire series however, i cant actually defend them at this point considering the last 5 minutes left me a in a state of disbelief for 3 days now. "its so hard to make a house of cards but its so easy to knock it over", ive played since the beggining on my xbox obviously i didnt even know this forum existed till recently, and so ive brought the series twice with the execption of Mass effect 3  because i wanted to play the series on my pc as i was transfering everything over and because i didnt want to pirate it because i love the games i brought them(including rebuying all the DLC's and extra content). 

then i end up playing mass effect 3 spending 50 pounds on a preorder enjoy the game immensly up until the last 10 minutes where everything just becomes stupid and then it gets even worse and so it ends with me thinking ... so i just played all the mass effect games for nothing?  when you get attached to something it makes you react when it feels like its taken away, so to go as far as to say they destroyed and entire series by ending it horribly with no closure to the fanbase isnt really that far to be honest.

oh i understand how others feel..i just think calling the entire series pretty much dead wieght is a little too far but thats just my opinion.

as for closure..YET is the opperative word here..no closure YET..there is plenty of time for DLC to close things off

[vics20]

crymzenassassin wrote...

i guess gone are the days when a game was measured on the ammount of fun you had..personaly i had fun in mass effect 3 from begining to end as many others did. as a guy above me said "its a dissapointing experience"

correct me if im wrong but itsn't an experience the journey and not the destination?

You're wrong. 3 games worth of choices, relationships, and plot all culminate into something that renders everything pointless. Nothing we do in ME1, 2, and 3 change anything. How does that not sour it all for you? Its like saying yea I had a great time jogging with phil, until he kicked me in the nads, but hey thats perfectly okay. 

If the endings are all horedously bad and almost identical, what the eff was the point of all my choices in the 3 games?