Is there a reason why Caridin needs you to break it? He looks big and buff enough to do it himself (and my elf mage didn't really look up to the task, but she managed). Was there a plot reason that I missed?
Question about the Anvil of the Void
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gsmithcat
, nov. 27 2009 08:36
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 08:39
archonambroseus
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Yeah, he says that Golems can't approach the Anvil for that same reason.
Of course, then a minute later he walks up to it and and makes a crown. Bit of an oversight by BioWare there.
Of course, then a minute later he walks up to it and and makes a crown. Bit of an oversight by BioWare there.
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 08:41
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Golems cannot touch the Anvil Of The Void according to Caridin, it has something to do with the magic that maintains their soul and their body and its interaction with the place of rebirth.
Personally i think Caridin is playing you though i haven't had a play through where i have sided with him.
Personally i think Caridin is playing you though i haven't had a play through where i have sided with him.
Modifié par andyr1986, 27 novembre 2009 - 08:43 .
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 08:41
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Or maybe he just wants someone to hear his story, so it won't be rebuilt and his mistakes redone.
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 08:57
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I suppose it could be so that golems are unable to approach it with the intent of destroying it.
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 09:16
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It makes most sense as a kind of Asimovian 3 laws things. You can't destroy the Anvil, or, through inaction, allow the Anvil to come to harm. (Which explains why, if you can't approach the Anvil, why you don't throw a huge rock at it, or collapse the chamber, or something.)
It is also possible he wants the Anvil to never be repeated--there are a few endings where you destroy the Anvil and some dwarves to try to build a new one. It goes pretty badly.
It is also possible he wants the Anvil to never be repeated--there are a few endings where you destroy the Anvil and some dwarves to try to build a new one. It goes pretty badly.
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 09:21
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I chalk it up to Caradin being an idiot. All those years of idle time must've rusted that lump of processed steel he now calls a brain.
Seriously, I just got past a part where I learn that the few captured women who survive the horrible effects of darkspawn poisoning get turned into grotesque Broodmothers to birth those monstrocities for all time and I'm supposed to consider the Anvil evil because it needs the sacrifice of one living person per Golem?
Get the hell out.
Screw you Caradin, your morality is a joke and so are you.
Seriously, I just got past a part where I learn that the few captured women who survive the horrible effects of darkspawn poisoning get turned into grotesque Broodmothers to birth those monstrocities for all time and I'm supposed to consider the Anvil evil because it needs the sacrifice of one living person per Golem?
Get the hell out.
Screw you Caradin, your morality is a joke and so are you.
Modifié par The Angry One, 27 novembre 2009 - 09:22 .
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 09:25
Alex Savchovsky
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gsmithcat wrote...
Is there a reason why Caridin needs you to break it? He looks big and buff enough to do it himself (and my elf mage didn't really look up to the task, but she managed). Was there a plot reason that I missed?
As Caridin himselft said, no golem could break the Anvil. Some sort of hardwired protection he designed himself, I guess.
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 09:31
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He doesn't have a problem with sacrificing people, he has a problem with sacrificing people who are forced (into eternal servitude, by the way), which isn't particularly different from what the broodmothers are subjected to. "Fight the darkspawn by becoming the darkspawn" isn't a particularly good tactic.
Granted, I didn't understand why he couldn't just kill Branca (And thus destroy the secret of crafting control rods) and guard the Anvil with his army of Golems to prevent abuse.
Also: Yes, He mentions no Golem can "come close to the anvil", it was a little weird to see him use the anvil immediately after, but I suppose he meant "destroy the anvil".
Granted, I didn't understand why he couldn't just kill Branca (And thus destroy the secret of crafting control rods) and guard the Anvil with his army of Golems to prevent abuse.
Also: Yes, He mentions no Golem can "come close to the anvil", it was a little weird to see him use the anvil immediately after, but I suppose he meant "destroy the anvil".
Modifié par Flamin Jesus, 27 novembre 2009 - 09:32 .
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Posté 27 novembre 2009 - 09:37
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Flamin Jesus wrote...
He doesn't have a problem with sacrificing people, he has a problem with sacrificing people who are forced (into eternal servitude, by the way), which isn't particularly different from what the broodmothers are subjected to. "Fight the darkspawn by becoming the darkspawn" isn't a particularly good tactic.
Granted, I didn't understand why he couldn't just kill Branca (And thus destroy the secret of crafting control rods) and guard the Anvil with his army of Golems to prevent abuse.
See that's the point. I'm not going to consider it evil, seeing what I've seen, given an ultimatum like that. If it's the Anvil or salving Caradin's guilt, I'll pick the Anvil.
No I'm not fond of the dialog forcing you into the choices you have to make, you should be able to talk Caradin into operating the Anvil on a basis that no-one will ever be forced to be a Golem.
Instead you have to go GOOD: Help Caradin destroy the eeeviiil Anvil or EVIL: Help Branka. Doesn't help to rub it in my face by calling the achievement for helping Branka "Pragmatist", as Branka is the last person I want in control of it.
