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#101
K_nthan

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I respectfully disagree with the OP. A valid points been raised, sure, and well done for making it. But no, I'm sorry. I won't feel bad or apologise, no one at Bioware seems to care that they're upsetting thousands of people. The only thing we've been given is snarky Twitter comments. I'm quite happy to apologise if I've upset any Bioware employees once somethings actually said or done but not now. No way. All I've done is share my opinion.

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TheBandit554 wrote...

How many of you actually read the post and didnt just see apologize?

Hmm... I see you all only see ME as the action shooter game most play it as, the first RPG player I see is one who knows how quickly games can change stories or outlooks, just look at Mass Effect. The endings were NOT MEANT to reflect our choices in the outcome. No, they were meant to reflect our choices back upon us, what have we done throughout our story? Our reactions? Our love? That was the ending of Mass Effect, not some bull**** happily ever after/hollywood badass ending like Halo or Call of Duty. Nor, some ending where oh no! The Reapers won! It is us, our choices, our attachments, our story, we are Mass Effect.


even if what you were saying were true, and not just your opinion of the ending, and it didn't contradict what bioware had actually promised, we still have the right to criticise what we like/dislike.

#103
Ryan546

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Hold the Line

#toto

#104
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Can't hear you, holding the line.

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Jackal7713

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HeyUder wrote...

While the backlash has been extreme, sometimes extreme measures are needed to make a company take notice and listen. I can't get over those underhanded tweets and sarcasm by a few of the BW employees saying "Yeah, we'll change the ending of ME3. I'll be sending a ltter to have the ending of Gatsby changed too."

Yeah, OK. Take my $80 (collector's edition) and laugh at me, too. Not acceptable. You can disagree, but we make your living.

I'm in total agreement! Bioware emplyees insulting paying customers is NOT ACCEPTABLE! Just like lying to your fan base/ customers is NOT ACCEPTABLE!

Edit : Hold the Line!

Modifié par Jackal7713, 13 mars 2012 - 02:05 .


#106
UnbornLeviathan

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 Forgiveness is a two way street.

#107
KainrycKarr

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I have nothing to apologize for. I paid $80 for a racing dog meant to place first, only to cough and die five feet from the finish line.

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Apologize ? WE should be the one to be APOLOGIZED TO. It was us who stick by Bioware and Mass Effect for 5 years and then got our hearts and hopes crushed in 10-15 minutes...

There is no Logic behind it, no excuse for it....it is plain and simple MURDER of the series.and how can one justifies a murder ?

#109
Torga_DW

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We need to apologize for having opinions on what just happened again? First Hawke, janitor of kirkwall, now Shepard, janitor of the galaxy? They exist as a company by giving their customers what they want. This isn't some dictatorship, where we must praise whatever they do or risk getting executed.

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I'll apologize when they return the near $100.00 I spent on this game.

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mupp3tz

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TheBandit554 wrote...

How many of you actually read the post and didnt just see apologize?

Hmm... I see you all only see ME as the action shooter game most play it as, the first RPG player I see is one who knows how quickly games can change stories or outlooks, just look at Mass Effect. The endings were NOT MEANT to reflect our choices in the outcome. No, they were meant to reflect our choices back upon us, what have we done throughout our story? Our reactions? Our love? That was the ending of Mass Effect, not some bull**** happily ever after/hollywood badass ending like Halo or Call of Duty. Nor, some ending where oh no! The Reapers won! It is us, our choices, our attachments, our story, we are Mass Effect.


Uh, last time I checked pretty much everyone is aware that ME3 is an RPG and not an action shooter game, hence the issues with the lack of choice and the crackpot explanation made up at the last minute.

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Arokel

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Those who have been rude should apologize. Those who have not been rude have no reason to.

Most of us have been presenting our thoughts and arguments rationally and respectfully.

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Ryan546 wrote...

Hold the Line

#toto




#114
Tequila Man

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Good lord. Holding the line is stressful. Can someone take my place while I go to the Port-A-John?

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fern222

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you know when DA2 was released my group of friends were bashing it and I was the only one defending Bioware....Ill just leave it at that.

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zarnk567

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Sywen wrote...

chibilombax wrote...

How bout we do that when they apologize for the depression players are going through? I can't easily forgive them for that.


this, what should apologize for? for their horribly copy and pasted endings from Deus Ex? so yea not gonna happen "you reap what you sow..."

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Tequila Man

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TheAsphodel wrote...

Ryan546 wrote...

Hold the Line

#toto






Endings aren't always on time.

#118
Ryan546

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Tequila Man wrote...

TheAsphodel wrote...

Ryan546 wrote...

Hold the Line

#toto






Endings aren't always on time.



I see what you did there :whistle:

#119
1kael

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Nay, I say good day!

#120
avmf8

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How about this I apologize to them when they return the money I spent on this series.

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Mac Walters should apologize, not us.

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Adamantium93

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If someone punched me in the gut, I wouldn't apologize for being angry at them.

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JnEricsonx

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Holding the line with a M-920 Cain-converted to automatic fire. I defended ME2, I defended DA2, I'm defending SWTOR-but this....this is the biggest ending/gaming disappointment I think I've ever dealt with.

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fern222 wrote...

you know when DA2 was released my group of friends were bashing it and I was the only one defending Bioware....Ill just leave it at that.


I've defended it multiple times, said why there are choices there but it's a story that needed to be told and that theres power in remaining in one city trying to fix it (although I agree with the sentiment the city should have had different models to change depending on actions) and how those actions can have far reaching conciquences.

But atm I am beginning to regret that, I wonder if me doing that encouraged them to go round and pull this (not the same development team or the same thing but whether it created the slope). Especially as it looks more and more like they are turning round to give me the middle finger for doing it but ditching the story and making the choices not matter in animes and comics and books.

And I did defend them on here about multiple things of the game, Ive said most of it is great, touching etc. And I was massively wrong in my doubts of multiplayer. Although again they gave me the middle finger by making MP borderline requirement for the best (extra 5 seconds..big whoop) ending, even if you do everything in ME3 SP, especially if you've made a few "wrong" choices.

So no I don't owe them an apology, not for wanting a resolution with some upsides to the game, I have enough going on right now to be stressed out and down about I don't need a game to tell me life is rubbish, not a great hobby for me. If anything I feel owed a thank you and an apology. But as it stands I will accept to give them more money for a DLC ending alternative, hardly being rough on Bioware am I?

#125
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Disagree. Will hold the line.