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[OneRabidAnt]

victoriakm wrote...

OneRabidAnt wrote...

  Oh I didn't mean to detract from your donation!  If anything I'm still in awe.  Honestly the emotional investment I've sunk into Bioware games over the years (not to mention lost productivity...)..to me are worth well over a grand...Just unfortunatly at the moment I didn't have a grand laying around haha.  Much props to you though

Didn't read it that way at all, don't worry.  I'd just been struggling for 5 days to come up with a meaningful way to express my emotional state and am so grateful to all who put this together for providing it.

I have felt very foolish and silly for being (STILL) so upset over a video game.  Seeing that I'm not alone has meant something to me (no straightjacket just yet).

This idea is just perfect.  Now I just think some of us should go hang out with the kids and play some games!

 I work in mental health so lemme know if ya still need  that straightjacket

[ChristianTh]

donated
hold the line!!!

[tay2208]

catgirl789 wrote...

victoriakm wrote...

OneRabidAnt wrote...

Nope. The first 1k and the 10k givers are still anonymous. Which I think is a nice thing =)

I only named myself because I wanted my logic out there:  I calculated how much I've spent on Bioware goods (I've been around a while... back to their start) and factored that I'm no longer willing to purchase anything from them.  I figure over 10 years that is easily 1k.

So a small portion of profit diverted to a much better cause.

Plus,  I'm really pissed and this was the first postiive thing I felt in days.

You are all very impressive, kind, givng and generally wonderful folks and I'm delighted to be a part of the fleet .

If you look at the RSS feed you'll see there was another $1000 donor that got lost in the masses somewhere around the first time someone donated $1000. Anyways, anonymous or not, big or small, all donations help the kids. Thank you, all of you, for your continued support.

^ this this this

[alschemid]

catgirl789 wrote...
It's ok, just stop the ending with the convo with Anderson and pretend that the Crucible went off and shut down all the Reapers there and it'll be better. Thanks for coming to help hold the line!

That is exactly how my ME3 ended!

[idunhavaname]

WHAT THE HECK?!? One day and it almost jumped $30,000?!?!?!?! Amazing job guys... wow

[CronoDragoon]

Goroxx wrote...

I've donated to the cause, but what a letdown from the Penny Arcade guys, who's charity we're donating to.

penny-arcade.com/2012/03/14/chronoloop

penny-arcade.com/2012/03/14/mass-effect-3-ending-spoiler-warning


Particularly grating is Gabe's last snarky line:

"The book has been written and you can change the way you read it but don’t pretend you’re the author."

Sigh.

Oh well, the charity drive is for a good cause, no matter what.

Hold the line.

Actually, I largely agree with Tycho's article:

"There’s a countercharge now, in response to anger about the endings, that describes Bioware’s output as sacrosanct in some way - beyond criticism.  This is fundamentally bat****, or as noted “speculative fiction” author Harlan Ellison might say,bug****[/i].  I’m fine with the ending, which to my mind started as soon as I ran the executable - the whole game is denouement - but I revolt against the idea of Authorial Divinity almost at the molecular level.  I bet Ken Levine would take a redo on Bioshock, for example.  To hear them tell it, there is plenty about Deus Ex: Human Revolution the developer would change.  Fallout’s “Broken Steel” DLC actually does modify the ending considerably. "

If anything, he's saying: I was okay with my ending and I'm more interested in the possibilities for the future of the Mass Effect universe than the lack of closure it provided, but I understand why people might think it sucked and defend their right to say so.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 14 mars 2012 - 09:58 .

[Fluffenstein]

I'm definitely going to donate when I get the money to!

[MzAdventure]

OneRabidAnt wrote...

  That's true.  And honestly before this I've NEVER felt motivated enough after a game (good or bad) to really throw myself into a forum before. And even with DA2 (which I didn't particularly care for and I LOVED DAO)...I thought the people calling for lynchings were going a bit far.  So I can see how from an outsider's point of view this could be seen as a massive nerdrage gone wild.

First time I've ever come to forums, but I was here 1 hour after I finished (as soon as I stopped crying and went for a jog to clear my head)

Haven't really left since.  From what I read, the near-unity in response is unusual...

[SirCroft]

I really don't get why the press is so deffensive against the idea of changing the ending.

Upsetting the majority of your fanbase for what? Artistic integrity? Plot holes don't help your artistic integrity either. Shoehorning Diana Allers for marketing purposes? Releasing such an important character to the plot like Javik as DLC? Making all the effort players put into making their Shepard unique meaningless?

Very integral.

Modifié par SirCroft, 14 mars 2012 - 10:00 .

[MzAdventure]

OneRabidAnt wrote...
 I work in mental health so lemme know if ya still need  that straightjacket

LOL - don't tell my hubby, he might take you up on it (remind him I've requested the fleecey-variety so it doesn't itch)

[OneRabidAnt]

victoriakm wrote...

OneRabidAnt wrote...

  That's true.  And honestly before this I've NEVER felt motivated enough after a game (good or bad) to really throw myself into a forum before. And even with DA2 (which I didn't particularly care for and I LOVED DAO)...I thought the people calling for lynchings were going a bit far.  So I can see how from an outsider's point of view this could be seen as a massive nerdrage gone wild.

First time I've ever come to forums, but I was here 1 hour after I finished (as soon as I stopped crying and went for a jog to clear my head)

Haven't really left since.  From what I read, the near-unity in response is unusual...

  Yeah.  There is ALWAYS people angry about the end to nearly any game.  But they are normally squashed by the throngs of people who did love the game.  This is the one instance I can think of where that's the opposite.  And particularly on such a huge high profile high stakes AAA game like ME3.  But big hugs if it counts =)  And if anyone ever comes to houston. First rounds on me haha

[Verit]

I'd strongly suggest removing the mention of the "Retake mass effect" and just make this a "Mass Effect community" effort. As long as it's linked to Retake you're giving the gaming media a reason to lash out at the community once again regardless of how much money is being raised.

[OneRabidAnt]

victoriakm wrote...

OneRabidAnt wrote...
 I work in mental health so lemme know if ya still need  that straightjacket

LOL - don't tell my hubby, he might take you up on it (remind him I've requested the fleecey-variety so it doesn't itch)

 HA!   So noted. If I ever see a rambling drooling mess of a soul mumbling about red, blue and green I'll see to it they're comfy hahaha

[Renjin]

 Holy crap... Almost 40k...

[catgirl789]

-Draikin- wrote...

I'd strongly suggest removing the mention of the "Retake mass effect" and just make this a "Mass Effect community" effort. As long as it's linked to Retake you're giving the gaming media a reason to lash out at the community once again regardless of how much money is being raised.

We've thought about it, but also don't want to seem ashamed of our original cause and forget why this all started to begin with. Of course it's all up to the OPs at this point.

[OneRabidAnt]

-Draikin- wrote...

I'd strongly suggest removing the mention of the "Retake mass effect" and just make this a "Mass Effect community" effort. As long as it's linked to Retake you're giving the gaming media a reason to lash out at the community once again regardless of how much money is being raised.

  Yeah that's true but honestly it was started based off a desire to draw attention to the ending so changing it now would be disingenuous.  I think we could probably try to fine tune the wording a little as it seems every article is just scanning the link looking for something to pick apart.  But definitely we need to let people know what started this in the first place.

[DoctorEss]

Shepard is always portrayed as a beacon of hope, standing up against the odds, when no one else will, and doing whatever it takes to help.

Every single one of you, be it a donator of a dollar or a thousand (in a sort of "everyone is Spartacus way), is Commander Shepard.

You might not have the Normandy, you might not fight galatic scale battles, but you stood up, and did what you could to help.

Sounds a bit maudlin, but there you go.

[snajones]

-Draikin- wrote...

I'd strongly suggest removing the mention of the "Retake mass effect" and just make this a "Mass Effect community" effort. As long as it's linked to Retake you're giving the gaming media a reason to lash out at the community once again regardless of how much money is being raised.

I respectfully disagree. The articles I have seen today, mentioning the charity drive are full of compliments on us doing something positive.

I donated for the kiddies, but I also donated because I am so frustrated with the endings.
If people want to donate to a charity - this one - any one - to do something good - more power to them and I am happy they do so. I gave to this charity for TWO reasons. I don't want to dismiss the one that is bringing all of us together!

Hold the line!

[Maugrim]

-Draikin- wrote...

I'd strongly suggest removing the mention of the "Retake mass effect" and just make this a "Mass Effect community" effort. As long as it's linked to Retake you're giving the gaming media a reason to lash out at the community once again regardless of how much money is being raised.

And I am just as strongly against this remove, with the caveat that it's not my choice.  This is how it started, channeling what normally would've been destructive raging into something positive.  To try and hide that root now would just make it look like we are ashamed and prove that all the journalist acting like children were right.

[snajones]

DoctorEss wrote...

Shepard is always portrayed as a beacon of hope, standing up against the odds, when no one else will, and doing whatever it takes to help.

Every single one of you, be it a donator of a dollar or a thousand (in a sort of "everyone is Spartacus way), is Commander Shepard.

You might not have the Normandy, you might not fight galatic scale battles, but you stood up, and did what you could to help.

Sounds a bit maudlin, but there you go.

Well said! This has been expressed so many times already, but each time I read it - in a slightly different way from someone else, it makes me tear up.

Hold the line!

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Its amazing that its nearly 40 thousand dollars last time I checked

[snajones]

I have to go out for a few hours, by the time I get back, I expect to see 40K blown by and lots and lots of Warhammer jokes.

Hold the line!

[Verit]

OneRabidAnt wrote...
Yeah that's true but honestly it was started based off a desire to draw attention to the ending so changing it now would be disingenuous.  I think we could probably try to fine tune the wording a little as it seems every article is just scanning the link looking for something to pick apart.  But definitely we need to let people know what started this in the first place.

I understand the intentions, but I don't think it's disingenuous to remove the link to retake. The reasoning behind the charity was to show that the people asking for a new ending weren't just the entitled whiners the gaming media made them out to be, but that we could use the way retake united the fans towards a positive goal. But it backfired and now we're getting even more negative comments about how we're "exploiting children" to force Bioware to change the ending. So that's why I would remove the link entirely, to show them that we're not trying to use Child's Play just to get new endings. Don't give them reasons to write even more negative articles.

[Kitsudragon]

I think what really burns for me is that what's happening here is in many ways a reflection of the Mass Effect franchise concept: That if enough people come together to oppose a Great Evil, they can make a difference.

So Bioware has made itself the Great Evil, and we're all coming together. In a sense, the critical concepts of the series have migrated out of the game and into the real world. Unity, Common cause against Evil, and a Unified Stand against having something arbitrarily forced on us because someone else has decided it's in our best interests.

With this ending, Bioware have become the Reapers.

The problem with this approach - if this was the intention, is that it's alienating their fan base. If they don't fix this mess quickly, they'll wind up with such a negative viewpoint, that the next time they market a product to the masses, the response will be variants of, "Oh, them? You kidding me? They can't be trusted! I'll spend my gaming dollar somewhere else, thanks!"

There's also the fact that in becoming the Reapers, and uniting the people here against them, they've created the same situation that existed in the game.

If, in the end, they don't change anything, and what they gave us is the definitive ending of their game, the REAL message will be the following:

"There is no hope. Life sucks, you never really had any choice and it's rigged against you from the start."

That message is completely contrary to what the Mass Effect franchise has stood for over the last 5 years, including all throughout the last game, where characters are making life-sacrificing decisions to fight for a better future. It's what we're all fighting for here, as well.

I sincerely hope they produce some kind of additional material, and show that the endings we've seen are just "Indoctrination at work". Because the ending they've shown us is SO bad, that if it stands, they'll lose our dollar to their competition from this point onward.

[Rosery99]

Don't worry everyone! Unique wouldn't even think about removing the Retake tags from our charity drives, as much as this makes us feel good and helps children, we do have a cause behind it. Now I know for a fact lots of people who have donated ignore that cause and donate because, well its the right thing to do but as many have said if we remove that cause, we act ashamed. And I am not ashamed, we deserve better endings, endings with more closure no matter how much Mr.Hudson would like to try and brush us off as a "Minority."

Hold The Line!