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VettoRyouzou

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Odd toss out here, anyone else reminded of the "LI/Tali Forum wars" you have a massive majority in favor of said idea and a small minority acting as if they shouldn't matter even thou the proof of numbers are on their side.

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The game informer article is what news articles should be... Facts with little to no personal bias. 40k sure sounds good when you read it Ike that.

Just think of how many consoles, games, TVs, etc. this is gonna provide for sick kids stuck in hospitals for weeks on end. It takes their mind off their illness and in some cases the pain, lets their parents do some relaxing, etc.

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http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys

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pomrink wrote...

http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys


Did you see the crying baby with the caption of "this pic is unrelated." I'm not generally paranoid but I have a strong feeling that that was aimed at us.

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No that was completely intentional.

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Hey, does anyone remember who made the blue banner child's play sig?

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Just wanted to say that this movement is really helping me to get through my disappointment and all the other icky emotions the whole 'ending fiasco' has caused. There's just way too damn much hatred flying around these days; it's nice to have somewhere to go where the prevailing mood is a positive one.

That said, I must admit I could use a shot in the arm. All of this talk (regardless of the source) that boils down to, "Look at those underhanded bastards, using charity as leverage" is quite depressing. When did we, as a society, become so cynical that we could ever call people entitled whiners for giving to charity? To me, it's blatantly obvious that the 'change the endings' petition is almost an afterthought. The mere act of raising so much money for children is giving everyone a positive outlet for their emotions and a sense of accomplishment that no game, good ending or bad, could ever give us. It's been said before, but it'd only be underhanded if we were holding the money hostage until we got our way. Frankly, if that were the case, it WOULD be the most scummy, vile thing I've ever heard of. But it's not. Only good can come of this fundraiser. There are no losers.

This is how the world SHOULD work. When we feel bad about something, we explain ourselves politely and then use all that bad emotion to do something good. Isn't that what we're all taught growing up? 'If you're angry, don't attack someone. Use that energy to exercise.' That's an extremely watered-down analogy, but I think it makes my point.

Long story short, I'm baffled. When did we get to a point where we want to attack people so badly that we want to nitpick freaking CHARITY? And on a much more personal and likely opinionated note (so ignore the following as you wish), I don't think the fact that the charity gives entertainment to kids should ever be an issue. You can't argue that giving food to the starving would be less 'underhanded' or more 'genuine.' Pain is relative, and so is happiness. No one person's pain or pleasure is ever more genuine than someone else's. That sort of thinking just... it puts an ache in my chest. Doing good is doing good, no matter how 'small' or 'trivial' it seems. You never know how your little actions are going to change someone's life.

TL; DR - Sorry for the rant. Basically, I am so proud of what this drive has accomplished that I have a little faith in humanity again and I just want that feeling to grow and last. :)

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pomrink wrote...

http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys


Unbelievable.

For those that dont want to give them a hit or potential ad revenue, they make fun that we picked child's play as a charity basically since we're gamers and obviously we don't know of any others. To me it sounded like they were saying it's not a worthy charity, and if that's not what they intended they should apologize.

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pomrink wrote...

http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys


Meh I have never liked Destructoid they tried to be a Screw Attack 2.0 but sold there soul form the get go.

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Let me just say that this is really such a fantastic idea. No matter how things turn out for the game, it's given this whole forum a really positive vibe. Trolls are still out there, but they are in retreat for the time being. I think BioWare is proud, too, and will probably say so at some point.

Maybe they'll screw up Baldur's Gate 3 and fund a cure for breast cancer!

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pomrink wrote...

http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys


(what I take from this) Are they really offering a free copy of a Dynasty Warriors game? Can't I just find one of those in the nearest dumpster?

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Hmm. Well, every war has multiple sides. No one said that everyone would agree with us. Our saving grace, so to speak, is that we are being mature and polite about it all, while they are the ones flaming and trolling at us. Hold the line.

Keelah Se'lai.

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shimoyake wrote...

When did we, as a society, become so cynical that we could ever call people entitled whiners for giving to charity? To me, it's blatantly obvious that the 'change the endings' petition is almost an afterthought. The mere act of raising so much money for children is giving everyone a positive outlet for their emotions and a sense of accomplishment that no game, good ending or bad, could ever give us. It's been said before, but it'd only be underhanded if we were holding the money hostage until we got our way. Frankly, if that were the case, it WOULD be the most scummy, vile thing I've ever heard of. But it's not. Only good can come of this fundraiser. There are no losers.

This is how the world SHOULD work. When we feel bad about something, we explain ourselves politely and then use all that bad emotion to do something good. Isn't that what we're all taught growing up? 'If you're angry, don't attack someone. Use that energy to exercise.' That's an extremely watered-down analogy, but I think it makes my point.

Long story short, I'm baffled. When did we get to a point where we want to attack people so badly that we want to nitpick freaking CHARITY? And on a much more personal and likely opinionated note (so ignore the following as you wish), I don't think the fact that the charity gives entertainment to kids should ever be an issue. You can't argue that giving food to the starving would be less 'underhanded' or more 'genuine.' Pain is relative, and so is happiness. No one person's pain or pleasure is ever more genuine than someone else's. That sort of thinking just... it puts an ache in my chest. Doing good is doing good, no matter how 'small' or 'trivial' it seems. You never know how your little actions are going to change someone's life.



This. So much WORD.

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pomrink wrote...

http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys


Well they were rude.
I thought if you didn't have anything nice to say you were suppose to say nothing?

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VettoRyouzou

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irJessica wrote...

pomrink wrote...

http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys


Well they were rude.
I thought if you didn't have anything nice to say you were suppose to say nothing?


There the "Retro- Modern" gaming culture there supposed to "Rebel". What they don't realize most hard core gamers are 25-35 now we actually like maturity now.


Keelah se'lai For the better ending! 

Modifié par VettoRyouzou, 15 mars 2012 - 04:29 .


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pomrink wrote...

No that was completely intentional.


I'm glad that we're showing more maturity in our campaign than they are in theres.

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UniqueName001 wrote...

Hey, does anyone remember who made the blue banner child's play sig?

You mean the one I'm using right now? That would be me.

#3018
Eirileth

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Wrex is going to make you all honorary Krogans. You've all got quads. Keep holding the line, and headbutt anyone who gets in the way... In the face. Yes. *the wine is talking*

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shimoyake wrote...

Just wanted to say that this movement is really helping me to get through my disappointment and all the other icky emotions the whole 'ending fiasco' has caused. There's just way too damn much hatred flying around these days; it's nice to have somewhere to go where the prevailing mood is a positive one.

That said, I must admit I could use a shot in the arm. All of this talk (regardless of the source) that boils down to, "Look at those underhanded bastards, using charity as leverage" is quite depressing. When did we, as a society, become so cynical that we could ever call people entitled whiners for giving to charity? To me, it's blatantly obvious that the 'change the endings' petition is almost an afterthought. The mere act of raising so much money for children is giving everyone a positive outlet for their emotions and a sense of accomplishment that no game, good ending or bad, could ever give us. It's been said before, but it'd only be underhanded if we were holding the money hostage until we got our way. Frankly, if that were the case, it WOULD be the most scummy, vile thing I've ever heard of. But it's not. Only good can come of this fundraiser. There are no losers.

This is how the world SHOULD work. When we feel bad about something, we explain ourselves politely and then use all that bad emotion to do something good. Isn't that what we're all taught growing up? 'If you're angry, don't attack someone. Use that energy to exercise.' That's an extremely watered-down analogy, but I think it makes my point.

Long story short, I'm baffled. When did we get to a point where we want to attack people so badly that we want to nitpick freaking CHARITY? And on a much more personal and likely opinionated note (so ignore the following as you wish), I don't think the fact that the charity gives entertainment to kids should ever be an issue. You can't argue that giving food to the starving would be less 'underhanded' or more 'genuine.' Pain is relative, and so is happiness. No one person's pain or pleasure is ever more genuine than someone else's. That sort of thinking just... it puts an ache in my chest. Doing good is doing good, no matter how 'small' or 'trivial' it seems. You never know how your little actions are going to change someone's life.

TL; DR - Sorry for the rant. Basically, I am so proud of what this drive has accomplished that I have a little faith in humanity again and I just want that feeling to grow and last. :)



I agree man. I've been getting tired of this bad reputation from other sites too. They seem to think we're using this petition as a diabolical way to further our own cause. I for one decided to donate because I felt helpless. I could rant and rave on these forum pages all day and all that would do is generate negativity. With this charity we are at least doing something positive and productive with our lives other than acting like spoiled brats. Even if Bioware never decides to address the issue and completely ignore us, I'll be content that I at least made a small difference in somebody else's life.

Modifié par ShdwFox7, 15 mars 2012 - 04:36 .


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For every detractor we are given one more reason to hold the line. Opposition is why we say "Hold the line", because if we don't persist, then it means people who believe in something they love just gave up after all the effort we've put forward. Hold. The. Line.

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I think interaction with dtoid in general is a thumbs down.

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Don't let the haters get you down. This is going to raise over $50,000 by tomorrow. Its up until April 11th, who knows how far this will go when we get BIG media attention.

Just be proud knowing you've been part of something bigger than those dunces will have in their entire lives.

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Yalision wrote...

For every detractor we are given one more reason to hold the line. Opposition is why we say "Hold the line", because if we don't persist, then it means people who believe in something they love just gave up after all the effort we've put forward. Hold. The. Line.


Amen to that.

Hold the line!

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VettoRyouzou wrote...

irJessica wrote...

pomrink wrote...

http://www.youtube.c...v4pzlE20#t=603s

Apparently this charity is a bad thing guys


Well they were rude.
I thought if you didn't have anything nice to say you were suppose to say nothing?


There the "Retro- Modern" gaming culture there supposed to "Rebel". What they don't realize most hard core gamers are 25-35 now we actually like maturity now.


Keelah se'lai For the better ending! 


Keelah se'lai!...I hate those "Retro-Modern" gamers also good to see someone else say it!.

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I have Mordin's banner almost done, but am lacking a symbol to use...does anyone happen to have a link to an STG logo, or his clinic's logo, or something along those lines?