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#4076
Arokel

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Rosery99 wrote...

It should never be thet ime, not except in the most extreme cases. While they have no leg to stand on as said before, this will bring bad PR. But my guess..is the bad PR will come from those bashing us already, those who have praised/sided with us, are smart enough to do real research and will see rapidly that we are not affilated with them.


Yes FTC is really meant for big problems.  

On the PR front someone linked the thread to Kotaku early on.  

Also is the facebook page supporting the complaints now?  That would be very bad.

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OneRabidAnt

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Yeah supporting the FTC makes for a nice fat target on all our heads

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UlricKerensky

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Link to the FB support, please?

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Metathron80

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Eirileth wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

Somebody reported the FTC-thing to the guy who manage the FB Account? The first people start to post on the wall "that this is something u can do". He must write something that this is something we don´t want...


That's odd. When I sent the private message to him, I told him NOT to support it. Now he's supporting it? Crap.


What? No, I mean some visitors of the "Retake" FB Page begin to post on the wall that the FTC-Thing is a good thing. So the owner of the "Retake" FB Page must sticky that is not something we support. Sry for the misscimmunication... 

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UlricKerensky wrote...

Link to the FB support, please?


You mean this support?

http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3

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Arokel

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Metathron80 wrote...

Eirileth wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

Somebody reported the FTC-thing to the guy who manage the FB Account? The first people start to post on the wall "that this is something u can do". He must write something that this is something we don´t want...


That's odd. When I sent the private message to him, I told him NOT to support it. Now he's supporting it? Crap.


What? No, I mean some visitors of the "Retake" FB Page begin to post on the wall that the FTC-Thing is a good thing. So the owner of the "Retake" FB Page must sticky that is not something we support. Sry for the misscimmunication... 


Oh good.  The guy running it seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

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Arokel wrote...

tasca1180 wrote...

Did someone say cake?

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Pleae tell me this is real.  It looks real.  om nom nom nom


Yes, its real, my girlfriend made it for me. :D. As well she made me paragon/renegade cupcakes as you can see here. blog.karocena.com/2012/03/mass-effect-renegade-paragon-cupcakes/

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Eirileth

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Metathron80 wrote...

Eirileth wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

Somebody reported the FTC-thing to the guy who manage the FB Account? The first people start to post on the wall "that this is something u can do". He must write something that this is something we don´t want...


That's odd. When I sent the private message to him, I told him NOT to support it. Now he's supporting it? Crap.


What? No, I mean some visitors of the "Retake" FB Page begin to post on the wall that the FTC-Thing is a good thing. So the owner of the "Retake" FB Page must sticky that is not something we support. Sry for the misscimmunication... 


Ahhh, ok. No worries. Don't worry about that front. I sent him a private message saying that he should avoid the FTC group.

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Metathron80

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ZodiEmish wrote...

UlricKerensky wrote...

Link to the FB support, please?


You mean this support?

http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3


I mean this comment on the retake Facebook Wall:

http://www.abload.de...tled-191cqc.jpg

#4085
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Folks, I do not feel the need to complain to the FTC myself, but I feel the need to point out that is is a valid avenue of complaint. Are you sure you understand the nature/purpose of the Fedreal Trade Commission?

"Our Mission

To prevent business practices that are anticompetitive or deceptive or unfair to consumers; to enhance informed consumer choice and public understanding of the competitive process; and to accomplish this without unduly burdening legitimate business activity."

As a citizen, the gentleman has every right to call attention to what he feels is deceptive business practice.

Just as you have every right to disagree.

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SharlenaSharlena

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 I donated but I don't know how or where to get the banner! Help please! thanks!

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theelementslayer wrote...

Arokel wrote...

Pleae tell me this is real.  It looks real.  om nom nom nom


Yes, its real, my girlfriend made it for me. :D. As well she made me paragon/renegade cupcakes as you can see here. blog.karocena.com/2012/03/mass-effect-renegade-paragon-cupcakes/


Tell your girlfriend how much people loved the cake. The cupcakes are adorable as well! You're a very lucky guy!

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SharlenaSharlena wrote...

 I donated but I don't know how or where to get the banner! Help please! thanks!


Which banner did you want? 

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victoriakm wrote...

Folks, I do not feel the need to complain to the FTC myself, but I feel the need to point out that is is a valid avenue of complaint. Are you sure you understand the nature/purpose of the Fedreal Trade Commission?

"Our Mission

To prevent business practices that are anticompetitive or deceptive or unfair to consumers; to enhance informed consumer choice and public understanding of the competitive process; and to accomplish this without unduly burdening legitimate business activity."

As a citizen, the gentleman has every right to call attention to what he feels is deceptive business practice.

Just as you have every right to disagree.




While this is true, we are trying to come off as neither entitled,raging or spoiled brats. The FTC complaints will reinforce negative feedback because of the very nature, we also aren't trying to HURT Bioware either, just get new endings added. The FTC will hurt BW sales if it goes through even though I highly doubt it will.

Remember BW is not a US company, the biggest thing the FTC can do is ban BW made games from the US which would cripple the company beyond repair, not what we want by a long shot. Thats why the movement is so passionatly against it. We want new endins not for a great company who made one mistake (Albeit a big one) to go down in flames.

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Talk about the FTC in the FTC thread IMO.

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Metathron80

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victoriakm wrote...

Are you sure you understand the nature/purpose of the Fedreal Trade Commission?


Yeah, and it´s not the right way to give Feedback or a way to earn positive attention especially from BioWare. Man I don´t want to fight them, I want to talk!

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Can we brainstorm a bit on ways to increase interest in the charity? Who has some ideas? I don't want the charity to lose momentum because of the business with the FTC complaint.

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victoriakm wrote...

 to enhance informed consumer choice and public understanding of the competitive process; and to accomplish this without unduly burdening legitimate business activity


I feel the need to highlight this.  If the group complaining is wrong, part of the FTC's JOB is to help inform them that they are wrong, without disrupting the business.

It's what they do.  If you think a business practice is legally questionable, you are SUPPOSED to go to them.  They exist to investigate and inform.  To teach the complainers, not just level penalties on companies.

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Has BW released a public statement regarding this?

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txmn1016 wrote...

SharlenaSharlena wrote...

 I donated but I don't know how or where to get the banner! Help please! thanks!


Which banner did you want? 


I really like the American fleet banner! Thanks so much!

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MzAdventure

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Rosery99 wrote...

While this is true, we are trying to come off as neither entitled,raging or spoiled brats. The FTC complaints will reinforce negative feedback because of the very nature, we also aren't trying to HURT Bioware either, just get new endings added. The FTC will hurt BW sales if it goes through even though I highly doubt it will.

Remember BW is not a US company, the biggest thing the FTC can do is ban BW made games from the US which would cripple the company beyond repair, not what we want by a long shot. Thats why the movement is so passionatly against it. We want new endins not for a great company who made one mistake (Albeit a big one) to go down in flames.



I don't understand why his complaint is any less legitimate than mine, or yours.  If he feels cheated, he has the right (and some would say in America the obligation) to bring it to the attention of those tasked to monitor such things.

It is a huge jump from "Letter to FTC" to "Ban Bioware from selling in the US" with many options in between, ranging from dismissal of complaint as being without merit to letter of caution to fines.

To belittle or decry his solution is turning around and doing to this man what many have being doing to us.  We are better than that.

Disagree with him, sure.  Dismiss him?  Don't you dare. 

I've spent 7 days and quite a bit of my money to the kids for the "Retake" movement, and suddenly, I find myself ashamed.

Modifié par victoriakm, 16 mars 2012 - 08:55 .


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txmn1016 wrote...

Can we brainstorm a bit on ways to increase interest in the charity? Who has some ideas? I don't want the charity to lose momentum because of the business with the FTC complaint.


what's been discussed thus far?  if we haven't already we could try to gather other ME fan sites to join the cause, including different countries (it'd be great if those that are multi-lingual could chime in).

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UlricKerensky

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txmn1016 wrote...

Can we brainstorm a bit on ways to increase interest in the charity? Who has some ideas? I don't want the charity to lose momentum because of the business with the FTC complaint.


Offer incentives. I'm backing a Krogan Shepard Birthday cake if we hit 60,000 in the next 24 hours. Anyone have pipes and want to do a stirring rendition of Scientist Salarian? Creative, funny stuff to make people smile and laugh.

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 I donated but I don't know how or where to get the banner! Help please! thanks!


Some are here:

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Metathron80 wrote...

SharlenaSharlena wrote...

 I donated but I don't know how or where to get the banner! Help please! thanks!


Some are here:

http://bit.ly/ylUXa4 
 

:)


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