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[Arokel]

Wow lots of great ideas being thrown around.

And I'm sitting here with no idea what to do lol. Will continue to brainstorm.

Modifié par Arokel, 16 mars 2012 - 09:13 .

[txmn1016]

coloradosarge wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

coloradosarge wrote...

My thought, that I expressed a while back was trying to raise their metacritic score. While I think they should be judged fairly on the ending which I would rate at probably a 1 the whole game would probably be a 7 to 9 for me. Right now it stands at about a 3.5 for PC, XBOX and PS3. I though it would be a good idea to raise the score, advertise retake mass effect and the child's play in the critic and make it clear that while we think the ending should be changed or added to we think BW deserves a fair metacritic score. Plus it would probably generate some good publicity as the Metacritic score was covered quite a bit in the beginning. Also, free advertising that for a lot of people that don't use BSN.

I really like this idea, as long as the majority are on board.  It would show that we're on BW's side, and not all of us are total trolls.

Is there anyway we can drum this up some in the forum and get more people on board.  Also I thought it would be best to make sure that every critic expresses that we want the ending changed to added to.  Any ideas on good ways we can balance posting a good score with our mission of getting the ending changed and raising money for the kids?

I certainly don't see a problem with creating a thread that encourage people to go post an accurate review on metacritic.  Again, let's see what the majority think.  But if a large enough group of people seem to be on board, we could possibly say it's a request from the group who's doing the charity.  An appeal, basically, to the other fans to give Bioware a fair review.  Then just put the link to the Chipin at the bottom. Don't want to push the charity down peoples throats.  But it would be a good sign that we support accurate reviews.  What do people think? 

[tay2208]

txmn1016 wrote...

Rosery99 wrote...

Also something else not only occurs to me but was brought to my attention, it will be done in point form so bear with me.

Singing: Is anyone good with singing, they could do a parody of Mordin's "Salarian Scientest" only the lyrics could incorperate our plight and the charity and we could get it up on youtube and stuff.

Artists: Drawings, posters and so forth all help the cause espically if you post them around the neighborhood and in shops that will let you do so! Online or offline if you're good at drawing or such look into this and see if you can do that sort of stuff. You could also do drawings for commision based on the ME univerese or what not and donate that to Charity.

For the drawing, we could maybe ask some people from Deviant Art.  There are a lot of talented, really nice people hanging out around there.  Pick your fav DA artist and hit them up with a request.

I can't draw or sing, but I will help in anyway I can. Just let me know where ya want me.

[UniqueName001]

My opinion on the FTC thing:

I absolutely feel that the pre-release statements regarding the game's ending do not match up with the current ending we received.  I don't believe there is a strong enough case for actual legal procedings.  But regardless of if they are, the FTC is the wrong avenue.

There is an important distinction between what we are hoping to do and what the FTC would do.

We are petitioning Bioware to create a more satisfying ending to the Mass Effect series, based on the fact that the game has always been about player choice.  Pre-release quotes from the developers are a good reference for what we hoped for, and why we are disappointed.  We want to keep the game we have, with the addition of the ending we feel we deserve.

The outcome of a FTC suit would be, if anything, refunds for the purchase price of the game, and possible sanctions against Bioware.  Neither of these outcomes is our goal here.  Let me be clear again - an FTC suit will NOT produce a suitable ending for Mass Effect.  Indeed, it will do everything possible to stop development of such an ending.

The FTC complaint goes completely against what we are trying to achieve here.  Anyone is of course welcome to support and discuss it, but please keep such support to the appropriate threads (IE not this one).

Thank you

[Metathron80]

txmn1016 wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Ok, so one good thing someone suggested was to get the charity info on the other language BSN forums. So, who knows people who can help us do this? I don't have any lingual skills to contribute, unfortunately.

(thanks again Puschel)

I´m the german guy.  

Well great! Think you could check the German forums for anything on the Charity?  If there isn't can you translate the original post and get it up there?  That would just be awesome.

I think we should translate the original post and put it in the german spoiler forum UnicqeName and you are the founders?

[txmn1016]

Metathron80 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Arokel wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Ok, so one good thing someone suggested was to get the charity info on the other language BSN forums. So, who knows people who can help us do this? I don't have any lingual skills to contribute, unfortunately.

(thanks again Puschel)

Why have we not thought of this before?!

lolz.  I've mentioned this before. Any suggestions? 

I´m german, if you like I can do that for the movement, and in my own language I´m a  fairly well writer.  

Go for it.  And if you happen to know (or run across on the German boards) anyone else who can help with other languages, please pass on the request.

[Eeshaan]

The endings are fine. Deal with it. I donate to charity, but for the rediculous premise of having a ficional videogame's ending changed, no way. Mass Effect is not real life. There are other, better, more important reasons to donate to charity.

You people are like bunch of Twilight fangirls. How about making a facebook page with Rihanna to endorse it like the Kony 2012 campaign. Then maybe Barrack Obama can be convinced to apply diplomatic pressure on EA/Bioware to change a videogame's ending. It's a pathetic generation that we live in, which requires a videogame to make people think about doing charitable work.

Get real guys. You people seriously need to grow up and get a life. There are alot more important issues in life to deal with than a videogame's ending. First world problems, meh.

[txmn1016]

Metathron80 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Ok, so one good thing someone suggested was to get the charity info on the other language BSN forums. So, who knows people who can help us do this? I don't have any lingual skills to contribute, unfortunately.

(thanks again Puschel)

I´m the german guy.  

Well great! Think you could check the German forums for anything on the Charity?  If there isn't can you translate the original post and get it up there?  That would just be awesome.

I think we should translate the original post and put it in the german spoiler forum UnicqeName and you are the founders?

I think it's best to keep it entirely anonymous.  UN may not agree, so ask him first (you can always edit later).  This portrays the idea that this is, at its heart, a community endeavor, where no one voice is any more important than anyone elses.  So leave anything out about founders/major players. 

[txmn1016]

Eeshaan wrote...

The endings are fine. Deal with it. I donate to charity, but for the rediculous premise of having a ficional videogame's ending changed, no way. Mass Effect is not real life. There are other, better, more important reasons to donate to charity.

You people are like bunch of Twilight fangirls. How about making a facebook page with Rihanna to endorse it like the Kony 2012 campaign. Then maybe Barrack Obama can be convinced to apply diplomatic pressure on EA/Bioware to change a videogame's ending. It's a pathetic generation that we live in, which requires a videogame to make people think about doing charitable work.

Get real guys. You people seriously need to grow up and get a life. There are alot more important issues in life to deal with than a videogame's ending. First world problems, meh.

Well thanks for your opinion

[johnnybravo2]

that would be a great idea to put the movement in german

[surleygentelman]

wow, a report to the federal trade commission come on. First point i applaud your desire to take a stand. second point. This makes us all regardless of what side of the argument your are on look like a bunch or crybabies. Not the way to go.

[Metathron80]

tasca1180 wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

MrPuschel wrote...

Il try to keep the thread up. Have wrote some mails to german game magazines, actually there is nothing else i can do now.

It´s weired nobody wrote a big story about Retake and Childs play. Guys with a high impact like Jörg Luibl always wrote a comment on something big like that.

Wir könnten es mit dem Netzwelt Teil des Spiegels versuchen. Dort würde die ganze Bewegung gut hineinpassen. Hängt aber vom Autoren des Tages ab, wie der Bericht ausfällt...

Sorry, was too strange to write to the German guy in English. 

Gute Idee, willst Du schreiben oder ich? Man kann auch in der Email die Forbes Geschichten verlinken damit die Jungs wissen das es nicht irgendso eine 08/15 Bildzeitungsnummer ist.

[OneRabidAnt]

If anyone is thinking of making t-shirts or material stuff like that, I'm willing to help fund that, seeing as my linguistic skills are nill and I have the artistic talents of a drunk monkey >_<. I can at least put some cash behind it lol

[txmn1016]

surleygentelman wrote...

wow, a report to the federal trade commission come on. First point i applaud your desire to take a stand. second point. This makes us all regardless of what side of the argument your are on look like a bunch or crybabies. Not the way to go.

No one here endorses the FTC complaint.  That is one person who is not connected with the charity endeavor.  But thanks for stopping by!

[Darkieus]

Eeshaan wrote...

The endings are fine. Deal with it. I donate to charity, but for the rediculous premise of having a ficional videogame's ending changed, no way. Mass Effect is not real life. There are other, better, more important reasons to donate to charity.

You people are like bunch of Twilight fangirls. How about making a facebook page with Rihanna to endorse it like the Kony 2012 campaign. Then maybe Barrack Obama can be convinced to apply diplomatic pressure on EA/Bioware to change a videogame's ending. It's a pathetic generation that we live in, which requires a videogame to make people think about doing charitable work.

Get real guys. You people seriously need to grow up and get a life. There are alot more important issues in life to deal with than a videogame's ending. First world problems, meh.

Oh, go away.

Plenty of entertainment mediums have had their novels/movies/short stories changed because of how the 'fans' feel. For a lot of people, fiction is a passion, not just an art- and many authors and artists understand this.

Stop being that guy and leave people be.

[MrPuschel]

Metathron80 wrote...

tasca1180 wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

MrPuschel wrote...

Il try to keep the thread up. Have wrote some mails to german game magazines, actually there is nothing else i can do now.

It´s weired nobody wrote a big story about Retake and Childs play. Guys with a high impact like Jörg Luibl always wrote a comment on something big like that.

Wir könnten es mit dem Netzwelt Teil des Spiegels versuchen. Dort würde die ganze Bewegung gut hineinpassen. Hängt aber vom Autoren des Tages ab, wie der Bericht ausfällt...

Sorry, was too strange to write to the German guy in English. 

Gute Idee, willst Du schreiben oder ich? Man kann auch in der Email die Forbes Geschichten verlinken damit die Jungs wissen das es nicht irgendso eine 08/15 Bildzeitungsnummer ist.

Already wrote to 4players days ago. But as more they are, the better it is.

[surleygentelman]

well.. since we are taking up futile causes.. who wants to join me in filing a complaint against Bioware because they have not implemented server transfer functions in star wars the old republic and that affects my play time because i am on a dead server and i cannot PVP so who is with me. the time of the irate fan is now.

[Arokel]

Eeshaan wrote...

The endings are fine. Deal with it. I donate to charity, but for the rediculous premise of having a ficional videogame's ending changed, no way. Mass Effect is not real life. There are other, better, more important reasons to donate to charity.

You people are like bunch of Twilight fangirls. How about making a facebook page with Rihanna to endorse it like the Kony 2012 campaign. Then maybe Barrack Obama can be convinced to apply diplomatic pressure on EA/Bioware to change a videogame's ending. It's a pathetic generation that we live in, which requires a videogame to make people think about doing charitable work.

Get real guys. You people seriously need to grow up and get a life. There are alot more important issues in life to deal with than a videogame's ending. First world problems, meh.

I just want to respond to one of your points.  Only doing charity for a video game.  I am unable to donate to this charity unfortunately but I will volunteer my time to promote and support it.  The same way I volunteer my time to the autistic program at my church or go down to Baja and build houses for homeless migrant worker families every year.  

I am sure most of the people here have similar stories. 

[Rosery99]

In response to putting anything about founders or creators I agree that it's a poor poor idea. This is a community driven event, it doesn't matter who came up with the idea first, who made the site or who picked the charity, what matters is we are all standing as a unified voice against something we think crosses a line. At this point it's not even so much about the ending but about two things:

1.Helping the Kids, simple enough.

2. Bioware has blatently told us one thing and done another, the ending is becoming more and more common in games, no epilogue or closure and it's something that as gamers we cannot allow to contiune. We are taking a stand here not just for ME3 but for the potential ending of every game to come after it. It's all of us not any one of us is more important than another.

How will we be remembered for future gamers, were we the ones who fractured and broke apart giving one person praise and damned gaming to these kind of endings? Or did we stand united and say "No more will we permit this. No more will we allow you to make lazy endings!" I personally want to be the latter.

Hold The Line
~R

[txmn1016]

surleygentelman wrote...

well.. since we are taking up futile causes.. who wants to join me in filing a complaint against Bioware because they have not implemented server transfer functions in star wars the old republic and that affects my play time because i am on a dead server and i cannot PVP so who is with me. the time of the irate fan is now.

Again, I appreciate your opinion.  But if you continue to blatantly troll here I'm going to report you (a long with, I'm sure, multiple other people).  If you don't have something useful to contribute to the conversation, please do not post here again.

[jess05]

Where do I get a Hold the Line banner? Thx

Modifié par jess05, 16 mars 2012 - 09:22 .

[coloradosarge]

Think it's funny that people seem to believe that this is the only time we donate to charity. This is just icing on the top for me and probably a lot of you all. I myself donate to St. Judes, Feed the Chidlren, Open Door Mission and some other ones. Just wondering what all charities everyone else donates to. I always look for new charities to donate to each year and will probably add Child's Play to my list, anyone else have any good charities that they donate to? I just don't have time to research them as much as I would like as I am working on finishing my Masters degree, working full time and having a part time business on the side. I would appreciate the info. Thanks!

[txmn1016]

Rosery99 wrote...

In response to putting anything about founders or creators I agree that it's a poor poor idea. This is a community driven event, it doesn't matter who came up with the idea first, who made the site or who picked the charity, what matters is we are all standing as a unified voice against something we think crosses a line. At this point it's not even so much about the ending but about two things:

1.Helping the Kids, simple enough.

2. Bioware has blatently told us one thing and done another, the ending is becoming more and more common in games, no epilogue or closure and it's something that as gamers we cannot allow to contiune. We are taking a stand here not just for ME3 but for the potential ending of every game to come after it. It's all of us not any one of us is more important than another.

How will we be remembered for future gamers, were we the ones who fractured and broke apart giving one person praise and damned gaming to these kind of endings? Or did we stand united and say "No more will we permit this. No more will we allow you to make lazy endings!" I personally want to be the latter.

Hold The Line
~R

Well said

[UniqueName001]

I am way behind at work and having trouble keeping up with everything here, but I like the idea of trying to get the ratings up on the community sites (although I have a feeling it will be an uphill battle).

99% of this game is better than anything else I have ever experienced. We are pushing for that last one percent - but that doesn't invalidate all of the excellence that exists otherwise.

I don't know how I feel about putting links directly to the charity page in there though. I know it is a publicity thing as well, but I might rather have links to the facebook page or the main ME3 forum; something to give people an idea of what our grievances are, but not hit them over the head.

I could just be paranoid though

[txmn1016]

coloradosarge wrote...

Think it's funny that people seem to believe that this is the only time we donate to charity. This is just icing on the top for me and probably a lot of you all. I myself donate to St. Judes, Feed the Chidlren, Open Door Mission and some other ones. Just wondering what all charities everyone else donates to. I always look for new charities to donate to each year and will probably add Child's Play to my list, anyone else have any good charities that they donate to? I just don't have time to research them as much as I would like as I am working on finishing my Masters degree, working full time and having a part time business on the side. I would appreciate the info. Thanks!

Depends on what you're interested in.  A lot of people have promoted Wounded Warrior since this charity started.