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[whoisthis98]

And now lets part with that old Electronic Arts saying

[SgtGlory]

 a really inspiring comment from the chipin page:

I find it just amazingly beautiful that a story about ideals, making world better unites people to help children. Perhaps this is the ending we all wanted?

[lord berwick]

DrowVampyre wrote...

lol, I'm not sure whether that means you like it or not, but...nah, the next step is gonna be another Soviet style one, but with different characters. Just cause I can only use the like...1 or 2 shots I have of Kirrahe so many times. I'm thinking either Anderson or Hackett...

Ooohh...do Admiral Hackett!

"Stand fast. Stand strong. Stand together. Hackett out"

[Ender99]

Metathron80 wrote...

bit.ly/yCnYtW Glory Days  

"Bad ending....still probably better than the actuall endings"

Isn't that the truth.

[Fulgrim88]

SgtGlory wrote...

 a really inspiring comment from the chipin page:

I find it just amazingly beautiful that a story about ideals, making world better unites people to help children. Perhaps this is the ending we all wanted?

hah. It's not the ending I wanted for ME, that's for sure.

But yes, the way it's handled by this community is inspiring

[Metathron80]

Erik Kain our Forbes buddy with another article, don´t know if it already posted....

 www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/17/former-bioware-designer-brent-knowles-on-day-one-dlc-and-the-mass-effect-of-public-relations/

[Kitsudragon]

SpuDSheraM wrote...

That is an awesome vid. It really highlights *why* this art-house ending sucks and why we want an ending which better reflects the trilogy we've all poured so much of ourselves into.

Bioware should be paying attention to stuff like this. Fan support is critical to future sales of new goods. If they keep alienating fans this badly, it'll wind up with their losing support, and eventually fading in the stretch into a nothing company.

When Fallout 3 garnered massive fan demand to continue the game and not have to die in the end sequence, Bethesda listened, and released a patch which altered the ending, so that players got the heroic ending they wanted. This is not 'pandering'. It's called keeping your fan base - and your market - intact.

To dig in their heels and try to spin-doctor their way out is the wrong answer. They need to see that if they want to keep their devoted fanbase. Because what they may have lost sight of is that the people who are most vocal about this are also the people who - if they like the product - represent a guaranteed market.

In the end, it's about the bottom line. And the bottom line is that a gaming company can't depend on the transient, uninterested market share. They may or may not buy the game, and will be largely influenced by the hype generated by those who have made the game franchise such a hit.

As a result, the company absolutely depends on the percentage of the fans who will buy anything they made simply because *they* made it. And that's the percentage which are being alienated. Wtihout that kind of market devotion, Bioware becomes another Origin Studios. They had a heydey, once, but now they're nothing special. Or worse, Flagship Studios, who banked everything on how "cool" their idea would be, and watched their company tank as their product bombed.

If Bioware wants to look at it as market share, they're losing the most devoted portion of their fanbase, which means that every future development they try to pitch to a holding firm like EA will be much more heavily weighed on whether or not they'll face the same kind of fanbase $*%!storm that they're facing now, and that will make them much less willing to risk money on anything but middle-of-the-road titles, effectively ending Bioware's ability to make blockbuster games.

Ideally, they should follow Bethesda's example. What they don't yet seem to understand is that they're not plowing new ground here. They would just be following in the footsteps of another company who's demonstrated that retaining fan loyalty works. After releasing their patch, they came out with half a dozen DLC's, and another game. And they all sold very well. Fallout 3 is *still* played today by a great many people, who see the modded game as a reason to play Bethesda in preference over any other developer, *because* they listen to their fanbase.

A game developer *wants* loyalty like that. Which is why when that loyalty is shaken, they *need* to do what it takes to get it back. Fanbase = Market Share. And the more of that they have, the more money in their pocket that represents at the end of the day.

Modifié par Kitsudragon, 18 mars 2012 - 03:21 .

[JinTechk]

Kitsudragon wrote...

SpuDSheraM wrote...

That is an awesome vid. It really highlights *why* this art-house ending sucks and why we want an ending which better reflects the trilogy we've all poured so much of ourselves into.

Bioware should be paying attention to stuff like this. Fan support is critical to future sales of new goods. If they keep alienating fans this badly, it'll wind up with their losing support, and eventually fading in the stretch into a nothing company.

When Fallout 3 garnered massive fan demand to continue the game and not have to die in the end sequence, Bethesda listened, and released a patch which altered the ending, so that players got the heroic ending they wanted. This is not 'pandering'. It's called keeping your fan base - and your market - intact.

To dig in their heels and try to spin-doctor their way out is the wrong answer. They need to see that if they want to keep their devoted fanbase.

Agreed 100%, we must all hold the line so that like with Bethesda we will get our endings and closure.

[lord berwick]

The Big Palooka wrote...

*snip*

How would people feel about organizing a low-key video message to Bioware, from us, the Retake movement?  I know a lot of us have made promotional vids or response videos on our own, but I'm talking about a single message, a letter from us, spoken by us, on video - maybe each person presenting one or two lines apiece - as many of us as we can fit into a reasonably concise message.

I feel this would be a good way to send a really positive message.  We love Bioware, we love Mass Effect, and we want to continue doing both ofthose things, but we're standing firm in our desire for endings that live up to the high standards the series has set up to now.  We feel this way as a unified group, but also as the individual gamers who make up that group.

Thanks for reading.

I think this would be a great idea.  We'd probably need a script, a few volunteers with webcams, and someone with the right editing software to pull it all together, but if done really well, it would be a great way of getting our message across.

[SgtGlory]

a reminder, if anyone wants the paragons, renegades, or shields designs, links are on the bottom of this post:

http://social.biowar...19/181#10132650

Modifié par SgtGlory, 18 mars 2012 - 03:14 .

[Can0fCorn]

If EA is wondering why we continue to be loud about the endings, they should look at their old intro:

[Metathron80]

When asked if James Vega would enjoy a new ending to ME3 via free DLC, his response was...  bit.ly/FPcbI3

[Trishot]

snajones wrote...

My 50K post

The Reapers come every 50,000 years to destroy all organic life.

The Paragons of Protest, while holding the line, raised $50,000 dollars for children in hospitals in 65 hours.

So, in tribute of that epic victory - and more to come...

*clears throat*

We all know the mission and what is at stake...

I have come to trust each of you with my emotions, but I have also heard murmurs of discontent with the Mass Effect endings. I share your concerns. We are trained for playing single player RPG video games; we would be loners, if not for this community.

Flaming in forum threads is not our way.

Think of our heroes, Commander Shepard, who defied all odds to acheive the impossible. Or the slowly emerging Positive press articles, who keep the trolls away with facts and logic.
These giants do not seem to add to our voice here, but they are not all that we are.
Before the charity drive, there was frustration. Before the frustration, we witnessed the "Ending".

Our influence brought us together to do something wonderful, but before that, we held the line!
Our influence stopped the media from calling us "entitled whiners", but before that, we held the line!

Our influence WILL make many children happy; in the battle today, we will

HOLD.THE.LINE.

This brought a tear of joy to my eyes. Well done

[bluuberg]

Glad to be able to contribute to a wonderful charity and also help the cause of Mass Effect fans everywhere. Holding the Line has never felt so good

[txmn1016]

So what's our personal goal for the day?

[JeeWeeJ]

txmn1016 wrote...

So what's our personal goal for the day?

Take over the world?

[DarkSpider88]

JeeWeeJ wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

So what's our personal goal for the day?

Take over the world?

But Brain that is what we do every day!

Congrats on over 60 thousand everybody.

[OniRogue]

Since we already are at 63.536$ (thanks again everyone!), how about we set our "End of the Day" -Goal to 65k?

Hold the Line fellow Paragons of Protest!

[txmn1016]

OniRogue wrote...

Since we already are at 63.536$ (thanks again everyone!), how about we set our "End of the Day" -Goal to 65k?

Hold the Line fellow Paragons of Protest!

That's a nice conservative goal, that I'll happily watch us blow out of the water

[OniRogue]

txmn1016 wrote...

OniRogue wrote...

Since we already are at 63.536$ (thanks again everyone!), how about we set our "End of the Day" -Goal to 65k?

Hold the Line fellow Paragons of Protest!

That's a nice conservative goal, that I'll happily watch us blow out of the water

Well I wanted to say 75k, but realistically attainable Goals tend to motivate more people, due to them being... well.. attainable^^

[SpuDSheraM]

Ieldra2 wrote...

NightActive wrote...

SpuDSheraM wrote...

Like!  Awesome Vid.

Indeed. 

This video brings home the great history of Mass Effect games. And now after half a decade of first-class storytelling...to end like this? It boggles the mind.

Let it be known that for every DLC Bioware puts out that doesn't fix the endings, I won't buy it but make a donation instead.

Indeed it is an awesome video!
Just so people know, it wasn't me who made it and i'm not taking credit for it

Let it be known that for every DLC Bioware puts out that doesn't fix the endings, I won't buy it but make a donation instead.  

I also agree, there is no way to play any DLC with the ending staying like that..

Modifié par SpuDSheraM, 18 mars 2012 - 04:27 .

[SpuDSheraM]

Also, another fan made retake mass effect video

[Squirrely Jedi]

Wow. Over 63k. This is amazing. I donated a few days ago and will try to do so again soon.

I just want to say thanks to everyone. I don't post a lot but I do try to keep up with everything going on here and on FB. I think all of this is amazing. Certain circumstances in my life at the moment are such that I have no friends to talk to about this, as none of my friends at the moment care at all about video games and think I'm a little weird for caring this much. And after feeling so very horrible and just plain empty when I finished the game, I was so glad to find out that I was not the only one by a long shot. If nothing else comes out of this, then I think we have managed an awesome thing for Child's Play and created a great community.

And I just wanted to say that I am very proud to be holding the line with you guys.

[Enichan]

Before I finished the game I was gonna buy a bunch of the DLC I didn't have yet, like Arrival and the day-one DLC for ME3 and replay the series all over. Instead I've donated the money I would've spent on that and then some to a worthier cause; Child's Play.

If nothing else, my discontent helps some kids.

[Eirileth]

New episodes of Doctor Who!!! Yay!! I don't feel as bad about not playing Mass Effect 3 now!!!