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[shadowrowan]

DrowVampyre wrote...

"I have a dream that my little blue children will one day live in a galaxy that will not be shaped by the color of starkid explosions, but by the content of my choices." 
Better?

Nicely played.  I think that deserves another donation for the children.

[Fulgrim88]

DrowVampyre wrote...

"I have a dream that my little blue children will one day live in a galaxy that will not be shaped by the color of starkid explosions, but by the content of my choices." 
Better?

Lovely

[Metathron80]

Fulgrim88 wrote...

Metathron80 wrote...

 I think this is an important poll, please vote:

http://social.biowar.../3114855/polls/ 

Tough one. 

My main problem are some arguments of Dr. Muzyka, like the "artistic" aspect of ME3. ME3 is simply a commodity, some parts of making it includes artistic work, but this diddn´t mean that ME3 is "art". My english isn´t good enough to explain my thoughts about it in a proper way, sry... The end of ME3 is technical not good, it´s not a question about the integrity of a group of artists, even if I accept his ME3 is "art" argument. 

Also this part: "
This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue. "

It´s a little bit offensive that Dr. Muzyka really think that I buy anything from BioWare before the ending is fixed. I don´t need "more time" with Shepard or "more closure" (it´s a joke there was no closure in ME3), I need a ending wich makes sense and respects the mainmotives of ME. 

This poll shows a little bit the disagreements between parts of the communtiy and Dr. Muzyka.

Edit:

Please don´t get me wrong I respect Dr. Muzyka and his opinion.

Modifié par Metathron80, 22 mars 2012 - 10:03 .

[Melicamp]

 Not sure if I missed a discussion on this during my slumber, but I just woke up and read this:

http://www.gamefront...lam-the-ending/

Pretty welcome, but unsurprising information. It certainly felt like a unilateral design decision, and it looks like that despite his denial these statements did really come from a staff writer. If one of them has broken rank and said this I can imagine there was a lot of bad feeling among the junior staff when they found out how things would end and they feel BioWare are allowing them to be unfairly blamed. I hope they have a nice feeling of vindication at the fan reaction.

Still, very silly career decision by this writer. I hope BioWare keep him about, he's clearly talented and passionate, but chances are he'll be made an example of. 

Modifié par Melicamp, 22 mars 2012 - 11:45 .

[Fulgrim88]

Melicamp wrote...

 Not sure if I missed a discussion on this during my slumber, but I just woke up and read this:

http://www.gamefront...lam-the-ending/

Pretty welcome, but unsurprising information. It certainly felt like a unilateral design decision, and it looks like that despite his denial these statements did really come from a staff writer. If one of them has broken rank and said this I can imagine there was a lot of bad feeling among the junior staff when they found out how things would end and they feel BioWare are allowing them to be unfairly blamed. I hope they have a nice feeling of vindication at the fan reaction.

Still, very silly career decision by this writer. I hope BioWare keep him about, he's clearly talented and passionate, but chances are he'll be made an example of. 

Even if this is legit (which I think it's not), it would be a sad day for gaming to fire that guy for being sensible and honest, while simultaneously backing up another writer for outright lying to the fans and disregarding the opinion of his peers.
Not to mention the huge damage he did to the sales of ME3 and the image of the company as a whole.

Whoever calls the shots there should think hard about wether that's really the message they want to convey.

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 22 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[snajones]

Hey everyone - good morning.

I would like to reiterate not to feed the trolls, (yes, I broke my own rule once yesterday! oops) just ignore their posts and continue to motivate each other and share stories of inspiration and cool things about the charity drive and the hope we have that BioWare will do the right thing and fix the ending mess.

Hold the line!

[Metathron80]

snajones wrote...

I would like to reiterate not to feed the trolls, (yes, I broke my own rule once yesterday! oops) just ignore their posts and continue

Trolls? What u are talking about?

Modifié par Metathron80, 22 mars 2012 - 12:15 .

[Enichan]

Eirileth wrote...



I want this... *cries tears of sadness*

I'd love to know the source for this image. Anyone?

[Melicamp]

Metathron80 wrote...

snajones wrote...

I would like to reiterate not to feed the trolls, (yes, I broke my own rule once yesterday! oops) just ignore their posts and continue

Trolls? What u are talking about?

MintyCool was posting here, trying to flamebait. We did not succumb. 

[snajones]

Melicamp - I think Metathron was doing the "ignore" thing there.

You know - like when you say to someone, "forget I said that" and they reply, "said what?"
kind of thing hehe.

Hold the line!

[Melicamp]

snajones wrote...

Melicamp - I think Metathron was doing the "ignore" thing there.

You know - like when you say to someone, "forget I said that" and they reply, "said what?"
kind of thing hehe.

Hold the line!

...I just woke up. That's a valid excuse, right? Hehehe. 

[Metathron80]

*grouphug* Must leave for today my mother has birthday and I must cook for the party. Have a nice day!

[Melicamp]

Metathron80 wrote...

*grouphug* Must leave for today my mother has birthday and I must cook for the party. Have a nice day!

Have a nice time. We'll hold the line till you get back. 

[Melicamp]

I declare a caption competition!!!

...because I'm out of ideas. Also, no prizes. Sorry.

[Fulgrim88]

There's actually already a thread about that.

You should check it out, some of that stuff is hilarious

[Melicamp]

Fulgrim88 wrote...

There's actually already a thread about that.

You should check it out, some of that stuff is hilarious

Thanks! On my way... 

[Ender99]

Melicamp wrote...

 Not sure if I missed a discussion on this during my slumber, but I just woke up and read this:

http://www.gamefront...lam-the-ending/

Pretty welcome, but unsurprising information. It certainly felt like a unilateral design decision, and it looks like that despite his denial these statements did really come from a staff writer. If one of them has broken rank and said this I can imagine there was a lot of bad feeling among the junior staff when they found out how things would end and they feel BioWare are allowing them to be unfairly blamed. I hope they have a nice feeling of vindication at the fan reaction.

Still, very silly career decision by this writer. I hope BioWare keep him about, he's clearly talented and passionate, but chances are he'll be made an example of. 

If this is true, and it seems like it is, then most of the Bioware writers are probably happy about what we're doing. They didn't have a say the ending either. I hope this guy doesn't end up getting fired.

Hold the line people, for as long as it takes.

[rocketboy90]

Ender99 wrote...

Melicamp wrote...

 Not sure if I missed a discussion on this during my slumber, but I just woke up and read this:

http://www.gamefront...lam-the-ending/

Pretty welcome, but unsurprising information. It certainly felt like a unilateral design decision, and it looks like that despite his denial these statements did really come from a staff writer. If one of them has broken rank and said this I can imagine there was a lot of bad feeling among the junior staff when they found out how things would end and they feel BioWare are allowing them to be unfairly blamed. I hope they have a nice feeling of vindication at the fan reaction.

Still, very silly career decision by this writer. I hope BioWare keep him about, he's clearly talented and passionate, but chances are he'll be made an example of. 

If this is true, and it seems like it is, then most of the Bioware writers are probably happy about what we're doing. They didn't have a say the ending either. I hope this guy doesn't end up getting fired.

Hold the line people, for as long as it takes.

I think the ending indeed shows that thats exactly how it happened. I think it kind of explains why there is not a lot of dialogue or commentary in the ending except for the grandfather, which could really be anyone's voice.

I believe that no one in their right mind who had spent a lot of time on the series to make it what it is likes the ending, but they cant speak up perhaps due to their contracts? Who knows. But that artice just hits the nail on the head when it says that its a result of a breakdown and the works of the lead and Casey. God bless bioware if they patch this wrongdoing and maybe lay off Casey or something for making a colossal mistake like this. (Yes, Im kinda heating up about it, dont hate).

They should change the star child to make him look like Casey and say "It is I, who made this ending, Shepard" and then you get to shoot him in the face!

I will be back to being my good ol paragon self in a minute. Sorry about that.

[Eirileth]

Enichan wrote...

Eirileth 

*Image Removed*

I want this... *cries tears of sadness*

I'd love to know the source for this image. Anyone?

I'm sorry, I dot know the original source. I found it on www.thedrunkenmoogle.com 

[rukiarei]

I never said this to anyone before, but... on my first playthrough I went a few steps to one of my three choices. I was grinning, thinking "oh, of course, you're trying to fool me, Bioware. But I got you!" I turned around and shot at the starkid... nothing happend, I shot at various things at the citadel, hoping for a way out of my forced on choice.... overcome the odds, because that's what my shep always does, right?

All I want to say is... I hate this kid... and I want him dead... and I want my hands on Harbinger and want to see him go down in flames... Well, yeah, no unrestricted love for synthetics on my watch.

I am completely okay with EDI, I came to like the geth and understand, almost loved them thanks to Legion even more so when in my game the Geth Commando offered the quarians their help and, as Tali informed me, where actually helping her people, not only claiming to. But the reapers, who diluted countless humans and who knows what races before, they shall know fear, pain and defeat. And I'd want to have my final stand against that self-righteous Harbinger, 1 on 1, if necessary.

I just had that all brought up again, when I read Dr. Muzykas Statement. Sorry to confront you with all this out of nowhere.

Had to flush it out...

Hold the line!

Modifié par rukiarei, 22 mars 2012 - 02:23 .

[Ender99]

I think the ending indeed shows that thats exactly how it happened. I think it kind of explains why there is not a lot of dialogue or commentary in the ending except for the grandfather, which could really be anyone's voice.

I believe that no one in their right mind who had spent a lot of time on the series to make it what it is likes the ending, but they cant speak up perhaps due to their contracts? Who knows. But that artice just hits the nail on the head when it says that its a result of a breakdown and the works of the lead and Casey. God bless bioware if they patch this wrongdoing and maybe lay off Casey or something for making a colossal mistake like this. (Yes, Im kinda heating up about it, dont hate).

They should change the star child to make him look like Casey and say "It is I, who made this ending, Shepard" and then you get to shoot him in the face!

I will be back to being my good ol paragon self in a minute. Sorry about that.

I'd be happy with an ending like that. XD

I seriously doubt they'd lay off Casey, but at least we may keep history from repeating itself in future games.

Hold the line.

Modifié par Ender99, 22 mars 2012 - 02:23 .

[txmn1016]

Melicamp wrote...

 Not sure if I missed a discussion on this during my slumber, but I just woke up and read this:

http://www.gamefront...lam-the-ending/

Pretty welcome, but unsurprising information. It certainly felt like a unilateral design decision, and it looks like that despite his denial these statements did really come from a staff writer. If one of them has broken rank and said this I can imagine there was a lot of bad feeling among the junior staff when they found out how things would end and they feel BioWare are allowing them to be unfairly blamed. I hope they have a nice feeling of vindication at the fan reaction.

Still, very silly career decision by this writer. I hope BioWare keep him about, he's clearly talented and passionate, but chances are he'll be made an example of. 

Part of me hopes this is real, because it would make so much sense.  Part of me hopes it's not, becuase I really don't want that guy to get fired.  I know it has been officially called a hoax by mods, but it looks pretty fraking real to me.  

[txmn1016]

Hold the line ladies and gents. 80K today!

[rocketboy90]

txmn1016 wrote...

Melicamp wrote...

 Not sure if I missed a discussion on this during my slumber, but I just woke up and read this:

http://www.gamefront...lam-the-ending/

Pretty welcome, but unsurprising information. It certainly felt like a unilateral design decision, and it looks like that despite his denial these statements did really come from a staff writer. If one of them has broken rank and said this I can imagine there was a lot of bad feeling among the junior staff when they found out how things would end and they feel BioWare are allowing them to be unfairly blamed. I hope they have a nice feeling of vindication at the fan reaction.

Still, very silly career decision by this writer. I hope BioWare keep him about, he's clearly talented and passionate, but chances are he'll be made an example of. 

Part of me hopes this is real, because it would make so much sense.  Part of me hopes it's not, becuase I really don't want that guy to get fired.  I know it has been officially called a hoax by mods, but it looks pretty fraking real to me.  

It makes more than sense when you think about it. I just believe that it was a drunk bender or something. Ive had that before when people disregard your opinions at work and then you turn out right and you get angry for ruining a project that youve loved so much. You just let the world know what you think.


Of course he had to take down the messages and I think hes just sorry for blowing off steam like that. I personally respect him for doing this and It just shows that a team effort should STAY a team effort till the end.