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I don't see why people care about a characters religion. Its the stupidest form of character bashing I've seen. You won't care about Liara and other Asari having a fake religion and always praising a goddess, but care that another character believes in god? Wow.

I mean im christian (icing on the cake for an ash romance :P), and i have no problem with fake religions in games lol, but its stupid to complain about some one being a religious zealot because she mentions it once.


Yeah,this is a wide another subject to discuss
But regardless the religion,it's just a game,complain of one chracter's just beacause of  his/her religion is wrong
The essential is that you need to have fun while playing,just forget about the rest of the world and have fun ^_^


yes i know, thats what i do when im not on these forums, but im just making a point.

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LiL Reapur wrote...

Bara is going to be on this thread like white on rice.......


Just making a point my man

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RZIBARA wrote...
I mean im christian.....

Oh you're christian? I thought you were cool, but now that I know that, you are the worst human being ever. If you even say the word "god" again, it won't be pretty. 

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Br3ad wrote...

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I mean im christian.....

Oh you're christian? I thought you were cool, but now that I know that, you are the worst human being ever. If you even say the word "god" again, it won't be pretty. 


Oh my GOD, sorry ;)

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iakus wrote...

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I don't see why people care about a characters religion. Its the stupidest form of character bashing I've seen. You won't care about Liara and other Asari having a fake religion and always praising a goddess, but care that another character believes in god? Wow.

I mean im christian (icing on the cake for an ash romance :P), and i have no problem with fake religions in games lol, but its stupid to complain about some one being a religious zealot because she mentions it once.


Ash never even says she's Christian.  Her God could be Apollo, God of Poetry for all we know

I can pretty much tell you it isn't Apollo, though. Come now, if it were Apollo, she would name him as such. 

By the way, Liara and most Asari don't even follow that religion anymore. Now they worship universal onenss. 

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RZIBARA wrote...
you can interpret it however you like. It interpretted it as christianity. My point is anyways that people bash her for being a religious zealot when she only mentions it once


Wasn't really disagreeing.  Just saying the haters don't even have that much to go on.

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iakus wrote...

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you can interpret it however you like. It interpretted it as christianity. My point is anyways that people bash her for being a religious zealot when she only mentions it once


Wasn't really disagreeing.  Just saying the haters don't even have that much to go on.


oh lol. Yeah, they just like to come up with any reason they can get to bash her

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I just finished the Cerberus scientist quest and it was interesting to have Kaidan talk about Cerberus afterwards and go through his thoughts about there being good people in Cerberus, like Brynn. It seems like he has more interesting things to say than Ash ever did. I still see him as kind of boring, but as a biotic Shep, it makes an interesting dynamic.. He's the Paragon biotic, my dude is the Renegade.. but they got over the Coup crap, and work together now. So his discussions just seem highly relevant.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:18 .


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Ash doesn't say much after the Cerberus Scientists mission, but she does say a lot while in it. It's just odd why so much potential content while on the Normandy never made it to the game... Was it lack of time? Was it that several writers handled the character and they didn't really have interest in her?

I do remember seeing on youtube Kaidan's conversation with Shepard about Cerberus and TIM... it'd have made so much sense that the ther VS had a similar convo about the same topic...

Modifié par pablodomi, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:52 .


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Yeah Ash shot her mouth off all the time in ME1. In ME3 she's downright meek.

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Yes, and as i said before in this thread its a damn shame. She had so much great dialogue in ME1 (she was my favourite and most interesting character and still remains so), and she had so much potential in ME3 (again the deleted scene, and bugged dialogue) but bioware screwed it up.

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Ashley's okay, i like her

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Yes, and as i said before in this thread its a damn shame. She had so much great dialogue in ME1 (she was my favourite and most interesting character and still remains so), and she had so much potential in ME3 (again the deleted scene, and bugged dialogue) but bioware screwed it up.


I'm not the biggest Ash fan, but I sympathize. I'm a Jack fan.. she didn't fare that much better. I think the game as a whole was spread too thin. It does nobody any good. Even beyond the romance stuff. Huge, world changing plots like everyone now knowing the rachi are around or that you can ally with the Geth is all waved to the side, like they're just random, pointless acts you did on "Tuesday" and "Thursday". Oh, and on Monday, you took down a Reaper with a thresher maw. The previous games made their big events seem like something - but the bulk of the games were small things. Helping someone on a loyalty mission, killing some mercs, rescuing Feros.. but when you did something big, it was presented with the justice it deserved. Now nothing has significance. Least of all the squad romances. Other than maybe Liara.

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I'm not the biggest Ash fan, but I sympathize. I'm a Jack fan.. she didn't fare that much better. I think the game as a whole was spread too thin. It does nobody any good. Even beyond the romance stuff. Huge, world changing plots like everyone now knowing the rachi are around or that you can ally with the Geth is all waved to the side, like they're just random, pointless acts you did on "Tuesday" and "Thursday". Oh, and on Monday, you took down a Reaper with a thresher maw. The previous games made their big events seem like something - but the bulk of the games were small things. Helping someone on a loyalty mission, killing some mercs, rescuing Feros.. but when you did something big, it was presented with the justice it deserved. Now nothing has significance. Least of all the squad romances. Other than maybe Liara.



yep jack fans got it even worse. At least you guys got good content in citadel. Can't say the same about the bar date with ashley (the rest of her content in citadel was good)

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Ashley's okay, i like her


yeah you best buddy ;)

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RZIBARA wrote...

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I'm not the biggest Ash fan, but I sympathize. I'm a Jack fan.. she didn't fare that much better. I think the game as a whole was spread too thin. It does nobody any good. Even beyond the romance stuff. Huge, world changing plots like everyone now knowing the rachi are around or that you can ally with the Geth is all waved to the side, like they're just random, pointless acts you did on "Tuesday" and "Thursday". Oh, and on Monday, you took down a Reaper with a thresher maw. The previous games made their big events seem like something - but the bulk of the games were small things. Helping someone on a loyalty mission, killing some mercs, rescuing Feros.. but when you did something big, it was presented with the justice it deserved. Now nothing has significance. Least of all the squad romances. Other than maybe Liara.



yep jack fans got it even worse. At least you guys got good content in citadel. Can't say the same about the bar date with ashley (the rest of her content in citadel was good)


I'd say Miranda fans got it the worst, but Jack and Ashley are up there too.

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StreetMagic wrote...

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I'm not the biggest Ash fan, but I sympathize. I'm a Jack fan.. she didn't fare that much better. I think the game as a whole was spread too thin. It does nobody any good. Even beyond the romance stuff. Huge, world changing plots like everyone now knowing the rachi are around or that you can ally with the Geth is all waved to the side, like they're just random, pointless acts you did on "Tuesday" and "Thursday". Oh, and on Monday, you took down a Reaper with a thresher maw. The previous games made their big events seem like something - but the bulk of the games were small things. Helping someone on a loyalty mission, killing some mercs, rescuing Feros.. but when you did something big, it was presented with the justice it deserved. Now nothing has significance. Least of all the squad romances. Other than maybe Liara.



yep jack fans got it even worse. At least you guys got good content in citadel. Can't say the same about the bar date with ashley (the rest of her content in citadel was good)


I'd say Miranda fans got it the worst, but Jack and Ashley are up there too.


no miranda fans didnt get it worse (than jack at least). They got three scenes with her, as well as content on priority horizon and a goodbye.

Jack gets content in Grissom: academy, one on the citadel, and a goodbye. 

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no miranda fans didnt get it worse (than jack at least). They got three scenes with her, as well as content on priority horizon and a goodbye.

Jack gets content in Grissom: academy, one on the citadel, and a goodbye. 


Quantity doesn't mean quality though. Her new writer (same writer as Ash's) kind of stinks imo? He didn't do anything cool with either, but Miranda sucks more because she rehashes old territory. Ash wins out simply for being a playable squadmate and covering some new ground. Jack still had Patrick Weekes writing her.

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no miranda fans didnt get it worse (than jack at least). They got three scenes with her, as well as content on priority horizon and a goodbye.

Jack gets content in Grissom: academy, one on the citadel, and a goodbye. 


Quantity doesn't mean quality though. Her new writer (same writer as Ash's) kind of stinks imo? He didn't do anything cool with either, but Miranda sucks more because she rehashes old territory. Ash wins out simply for being a playable squadmate and covering some new ground. Jack still had Patrick Weekes writing her.


yes, but when you get so few scenes with her, its just as dissappointing. Hell, her goodbye involves her telling you to not get killed so she can get laid.

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no miranda fans didnt get it worse (than jack at least). They got three scenes with her, as well as content on priority horizon and a goodbye.

Jack gets content in Grissom: academy, one on the citadel, and a goodbye. 


Quantity doesn't mean quality though. Her new writer (same writer as Ash's) kind of stinks imo? He didn't do anything cool with either, but Miranda sucks more because she rehashes old territory. Ash wins out simply for being a playable squadmate and covering some new ground. Jack still had Patrick Weekes writing her.


yes, but when you get so few scenes with her, its just as dissappointing. Hell, her goodbye involves her telling you to not get killed so she can get laid.


That was actually refreshing to me. Haha.. I got tired of hearing from Me3's crewmates being fatalistic and having their sentimental goodbyes/time capsules/ and general concerns throughout the game. Tali is an exception. Patrick Weekes also wrote her, and wasn't about to make her sound like everything was over on Priority Earth. Jack and Tali were in it to win.

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Ashley doesn't live past the coup. She dies an unwitting traitor. My Shepard makes sure her family's name is forever tarnished.

Meanwhile TIM, and, to a much lesser extent, Udina are vindicated in the long run.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ashley doesn't live past the coup. She dies an unwitting traitor. My Shepard makes sure her family's name is forever tarnished.

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Your Ashley hate makes my Liara hate pale in comparison

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Ashley doesn't live past the coup. She dies an unwitting traitor. My Shepard makes sure her family's name is forever tarnished

Ashley >>>>>>>>>> Vorcha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fist >>>>>>>>>>>>> Liara >>>>>>>>>>> Kai Leng >>>>>>>>>>>> Miranda

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ashley doesn't live past the coup. She dies an unwitting traitor. My Shepard makes sure her family's name is forever tarnished.

Meanwhile TIM, and, to a much lesser extent, Udina are vindicated in the long run.


Ashley > everyone > Miranda.

Anyways, no one cares about your playthrough. that's not what this thread is about

Modifié par RZIBARA, 10 septembre 2013 - 09:25 .


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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ashley doesn't live past the coup. She dies an unwitting traitor. My Shepard makes sure her family's name is forever tarnished

Bag of literal sh!t>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Bags of Literal sh!t>>>>>>>> Bag of sh!t in bulk>>>>>Warehouse Bag Of Sh!t deal>>>>>>>>Ashley >>>>>>>>>> Vorcha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fist >>>>>>>>>>>>> Liara >>>>>>>>>>> Kai Leng >>>>>>>>>>>> Miranda

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