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[Bossnormandy]

Br3ad wrote...

Geth shoot rocket. Elevator go boom. Right before you meet Legion/Geth VI. Come on, man. 

Still not ringing a bell. Guess I need to make a second run through of...all the games 

RE: Wanting this thread more interesting...it's a thread about Ashley, there's not much to be said. 

[RZIBARA]

Ashley is more interesting then tali will ever be

[XxShadow82xX]

I agree b-but...Tali is my 2nd favorite squadmate....my feelings are now hurt.

[Br3admax]

Bossnormandy wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Geth shoot rocket. Elevator go boom. Right before you meet Legion/Geth VI. Come on, man. 

Still not ringing a bell. Guess I need to make a second run through of...all the games 

RE: Wanting this thread more interesting...it's a thread about Ashley, there's not much to be said. 

I know more about the Talimance than you do. Who should be more ashamed? Me or you? 

[Redbelle]

Tilarta wrote...

Now that I've finally got my favorite ME1 Squadmember back, I've been going to her as often as I can after missions to see what she has to say.

Unfortunately, it's not very much.
She says a line of dialogue and there's no conversation wheel scene.

I'm finding this extremely disappointing.

I waited a whole year to get her back and when I do, we don't get to have any big heart2heart talks.

In ME1, she had a lot to say!

I have more extensive conversations with EDI then I do Ashley.

Is this something to do with the fact my Shepherd is female?
I don't know if it's the case, but was Ashley programmed only to interact with a male
Shepherd?
And if the above case is true, does this mean there is no eventuality planned for a platonic "SistersInArms" friendship scenario?

It's not just you. I noticed Ashley has very little to say once she's on board in the Normandy.

What she has to say is almost entirely derogatory towards Shepard. At the very start of the game, I counted 5 instances where she brings up Shepards Cerberus past, accepts Shepards argument with a conditiional 'but' to the end of her sentences, then a little further in, makes the same accusation that leads to a repeat of Ashley doens't trust the commander, Commander reassures her till 10 minutes into the next Ashley scene'.

I don't think her character ever progressed beyond that. And when it got the to the drunken Ash on the floor, I enjoyed the scene..... But it felt so....... tacked on. It wasn't an organic flow of the relationship between Shep and Ash because no effort was put into a potential relationship with the PC and this NPC.

And I find the same is true of other characters..... except possibly Garrus.

But anyhow. I hope in ME4 they return to the way of dealing with relationships in the vein of ME1 and 2.

I know there are people out there who prefer ME3's take, but I'm just going say, going the route of ME3 is too barren. To streamlined. Characters do not come alive and all ME3 wants the player to focus on is getting to the next gun fight.

And puritised combat is neither Mass Effect, or Bioware's strength. They need to get back to their roots and understand that they work best by giving the gamer great characters to explore. Great gaming universes to explore, and great game mechanics to explore.

[Redbelle]

RZIBARA wrote...

Ashley is more interesting then tali will ever be

Tali is more interesting.

But Ashley was woefully underserved in ME3 that comparing the two is like putting both in a tennis court and handing Ashley a broken racket.

........Still miss Ashley's hair buns

Modifié par Redbelle, 11 septembre 2013 - 10:47 .

[RZIBARA]

XxShadow82xX wrote...

I agree b-but...Tali is my 2nd favorite squadmate....my feelings are now hurt.

i didnt say i hate her. I said ash is more interesting

[RZIBARA]

ME1 ashley is one of the most interesting characters in the trilogy

[Br3admax]

Redbelle wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Ashley is more interesting then tali will ever be

Tali is more interesting.

But Ashley was woefully underserved in ME3 that comparing the two is like putting both in a tennis court and handing Ashley a broken racket.

........Still miss Ashley's hair buns

What exactly is interesting about Tali besides the fact that she keeps getting promoted for Shepard doing everything for her? 

[Gkonone]

It's amazing how this thread is growing so fast because I always had the feeling Ash was one of the least popular LI's in the game. Judging by these forums that is.
I didn't read pages 9-21 so maybe it's people venting their hate towards her.

Regardless, she'll always be the love interest I'll go for in my playthroughs and BW didn't know what to do with her or they didn't appreciate her enough.

Modifié par Gkonone, 11 septembre 2013 - 10:59 .

[XxShadow82xX]

*Sips drink* Emergency...induction...port!

[Iakus]

Gkonone wrote...

It's amazing how this thread is growing so fast because I always had the feeling Ash was one of the least popular LI's in the game. Judging by these forums that is.
I didn't read pages 9-21 so maybe it's people venting their hate towards her.

Regardless, she'll always be the love interest I'll go for in my playthroughs and BW didn't know what to do with her or they didn't appreciate her enough.

She's polarizing.  Some love her, some hate her, and there's little in between.

And her detractors are very vocal.  I've yet to see any thread about her not get eventually filled with hate towards her.

[Bossnormandy]

Br3ad wrote...

I know more about the Talimance than you do. Who should be more ashamed? Me or you? 

I am probably more ashamed...any chance you could hit me with a youtube video of this?..I couldn't find one

[Steelcan]

iakus wrote...

Gkonone wrote...

It's amazing how this thread is growing so fast because I always had the feeling Ash was one of the least popular LI's in the game. Judging by these forums that is.
I didn't read pages 9-21 so maybe it's people venting their hate towards her.

Regardless, she'll always be the love interest I'll go for in my playthroughs and BW didn't know what to do with her or they didn't appreciate her enough.

She's polarizing.  Some love her, some hate her, and there's little in between.

And her detractors are very vocal.  I've yet to see any thread about her not get eventually filled with hate towards her.

:whistle:

[RZIBARA]

Gkonone wrote...

It's amazing how this thread is growing so fast because I always had the feeling Ash was one of the least popular LI's in the game. Judging by these forums that is.
I didn't read pages 9-21 so maybe it's people venting their hate towards her.

Regardless, she'll always be the love interest I'll go for in my playthroughs and BW didn't know what to do with her or they didn't appreciate her enough.

its a mix of lover for her. hate for her. Gifs. randomness. hate speech. and everything in between

[Bossnormandy]

RZIBARA wrote...

ME1 ashley is one of the most interesting characters in the trilogy

I agree

However, not so in #3. She is probably less interesting than Dr Chakwas, and to add insult to injury she's too obsessed that Shepard was on Cerberus' payroll in ME 2. I understand that's kind of a big deal, but to know Shepard is on 'house arrest' for 6 months after the destruction of the collector base and she still won't visit him is inexcusable..I'd have no interest in having a LI that holds grudges that long, especially when she's not willing to listen to your side of the story.

[Bossnormandy]

XxShadow82xX wrote...

*Sips drink* Emergency...induction...port!

 this whole scene was pretty awesome. I always hated her...what did Zero call her? A Cerberus cheerleader? My father would have hated you..HA

Much better than "ugh...cold floor..don't talk..ugh"

[RZIBARA]

Bossnormandy wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

ME1 ashley is one of the most interesting characters in the trilogy

I agree

However, not so in #3. She is probably less interesting than Dr Chakwas, and to add insult to injury she's too obsessed that Shepard was on Cerberus' payroll in ME 2. I understand that's kind of a big deal, but to know Shepard is on 'house arrest' for 6 months after the destruction of the collector base and she still won't visit him is inexcusable..I'd have no interest in having a LI that holds grudges that long, especially when she's not willing to listen to your side of the story.

go read through the thread. Im not having this argument again

[Gkonone]

Bossnormandy wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

ME1 ashley is one of the most interesting characters in the trilogy

I agree

However, not so in #3. She is probably less interesting than Dr Chakwas, and to add insult to injury she's too obsessed that Shepard was on Cerberus' payroll in ME 2. I understand that's kind of a big deal, but to know Shepard is on 'house arrest' for 6 months after the destruction of the collector base and she still won't visit him is inexcusable..I'd have no interest in having a LI that holds grudges that long, especially when she's not willing to listen to your side of the story.

I can understand how seeing your love interest after 2 years, presumed dead, is a big deal, and considering Ashley's thoughts on Cerberus. But to me it's just poor writing on BW's part. All Shepard got was one encounter and an email. There should have been a way to reconcile.

A major LI from ME1 gets almost no screentime in ME2 while Liara gets a dlc even.

[XxShadow82xX]

Bossnormandy wrote...

XxShadow82xX wrote...

*Sips drink* Emergency...induction...port!

 this whole scene was pretty awesome. I always hated her...what did Zero call her? A Cerberus cheerleader? My father would have hated you..HA

Much better than "ugh...cold floor..don't talk..ugh"

I thought both scenes were well done imo.

Shep: "I could get Joker to sing to you over the com."^_^

[RZIBARA]

XxShadow82xX wrote...

Bossnormandy wrote...

XxShadow82xX wrote...

*Sips drink* Emergency...induction...port!

 this whole scene was pretty awesome. I always hated her...what did Zero call her? A Cerberus cheerleader? My father would have hated you..HA

Much better than "ugh...cold floor..don't talk..ugh"

I thought both scenes were well done imo.

Shep: "I could get Joker to sing to you over the com."^_^

I loved Ashs scene. Tali's was funny as well.

[Bossnormandy]

RZIBARA wrote...

go read through the thread. Im not having this argument again

My bad..I skimmed to page 12 and got sick of reading (plus I need to study ). When I get a chance I'll find your points and see if I have anything new to offer..knowing my lack of creativity, don't expect any further rebuttals

One thing I was a little confused about..I told Ash we could start with a clean slate, and she never showed any interest whatsoever, even after buying her tennyson and choosing the (very few) nicest conversation options with her..maybe because I was firmly clenched in Tali's talons? I guess that'd be score 1 for Ashley if it's because she doesn't want to be a home-wrecker.

Forgot about offering to get Joker to sing to Ashley when she was smashed, that was pretty funny too. 

[Br3admax]

No, it's because that's just how Ashley is. Emotions aren't a thing for this one. Not on the surface anyway. She thinks it'll take time if you actually want to be with her, which quite frankly is much more realistic than, "Okay." from Liara.

If you were not with someone, none of that clean slate business really happens because you didn't sleep with anyone else. Yeah, turns out cheating on someone who loves you is a big deal.

[Bossnormandy]

Br3ad wrote...

No, it's because that's just how Ashley is. Emotions aren't a thing for this one. Not on the surface anyway. She thinks it'll take time if you actually want to be with her, which quite frankly is much more realistic than, "Okay." from Liara.

If you were not with someone, none of that clean slate business really happens because you didn't sleep with anyone else. Yeah, turns out cheating on someone who loves you is a big deal.

Ashley made it abundantly clear in ME 2 that she LOVED Shepard. That had an air of finality to it, so I moved on (and as someone noted previously, Ashley climbed an impossible amount of ranks in 6 months..do you really think she stayed faithful? ).

I guess there was a small intimate moment while in the hospital, but I was kind of hoping in #3 that she'd have a heart to heart with Shepard and make it known that she regretted doubting him at every turn, and still had feelings for him (so I could crush her by choosing a yucky alien instead). From what I could tell after my 1 run through of the game, she doesn't do this unless you're single and ready to mingle.

[RZIBARA]

I honestly don't think you've done a romance with her in ME3