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[RZIBARA]

Why?

[LiL Reapur]

Steelcan wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Implanting people with reaper tech, as well as turning innocent people into husks are good things? REALLY?

Thats about all i can take. Im done here

lol this amuses me

Steelcan i go to work for five hours and come back and your still trolling, lol well played.....

Modifié par LiL Reapur, 10 septembre 2013 - 11:20 .

[Steelcan]

LiL Reapur wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Implanting people with reaper tech, as well as turning innocent people into husks are good things? REALLY?

Thats about all i can take. Im done here

lol this amuses me

Steelcan i go to work for five hours and come back and your still trolling, lol well played.....

:innocent:  anytime

[Steelcan]

RZIBARA wrote...

Why?

let the paragon flow through you....

[Eterna]

RZIBARA wrote...

iakus wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

I don't see why people care about a characters religion. Its the stupidest form of character bashing I've seen. You won't care about Liara and other Asari having a fake religion and always praising a goddess, but care that another character believes in god? Wow.

I mean im christian (icing on the cake for an ash romance ), and i have no problem with fake religions in games lol, but its stupid to complain about some one being a religious zealot because she mentions it once.

Ash never even says she's Christian.  Her God could be Apollo, God of Poetry for all we know

you can interpret it however you like. I interpretted it as christianity. My point is anyways that people bash her for being a religious zealot when she only mentions it once

You'd have to be a religious zealot in her position. She believes in a dead religion. 

[RZIBARA]

I dont see how i was trolled

[LiL Reapur]

RZIBARA wrote...

I dont see how i was trolled

Attempted troll was what i meant bara.

Modifié par LiL Reapur, 10 septembre 2013 - 11:27 .

[RZIBARA]

Steelcan wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Why?

let the paragon flow through you....

yes im paragon. I disagree with renegade decisions, but thats a way to play the game.

Im no david7204, im not an elitist paragon, i just disagree with alot of renegade decisions (not all)

[RZIBARA]

Eterna5 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

iakus wrote...

Ash never even says she's Christian.  Her God could be Apollo, God of Poetry for all we know

you can interpret it however you like. I interpretted it as christianity. My point is anyways that people bash her for being a religious zealot when she only mentions it once

You'd have to be a religious zealot in her position. She believes in a dead religion. 

Christianity is dead? Wtf are you talking about? There is no evidence in game of this. 

[SiniisteR]

RZIBARA wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

iakus wrote...

Ash never even says she's Christian.  Her God could be Apollo, God of Poetry for all we know

you can interpret it however you like. I interpretted it as christianity. My point is anyways that people bash her for being a religious zealot when she only mentions it once

You'd have to be a religious zealot in her position. She believes in a dead religion. 

Christianity is dead? Wtf are you talking about? There is no evidence in game of this. 

By that time frame I'd guess that Christianity hhas had a major drop in popularity, since the Bible by then will be alot less believable.

[RZIBARA]

SiniisteR wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You'd have to be a religious zealot in her position. She believes in a dead religion. 

Christianity is dead? Wtf are you talking about? There is no evidence in game of this. 

By that time frame I'd guess that Christianity hhas had a major drop in popularity, since the Bible by then will be alot less believable.

read the post above yours

[MassivelyEffective0730]

RZIBARA wrote...

Implanting people with reaper tech, as well as turning innocent people into husks are good things? REALLY?

Thats about all i can take. Im done here

If the in the right context and circumstances, they can be.

There's nothing inherently wrong with doing it. If it advances our cause and helps us beat the Reapers, what does it matter?

[RZIBARA]

Because theres a good chance it wouldnt work, which was the case (iirc) in me3. They were all indoctrinated

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Eterna5 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

iakus wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

I don't see why people care about a characters religion. Its the stupidest form of character bashing I've seen. You won't care about Liara and other Asari having a fake religion and always praising a goddess, but care that another character believes in god? Wow.

I mean im christian (icing on the cake for an ash romance ), and i have no problem with fake religions in games lol, but its stupid to complain about some one being a religious zealot because she mentions it once.

Ash never even says she's Christian.  Her God could be Apollo, God of Poetry for all we know

you can interpret it however you like. I interpretted it as christianity. My point is anyways that people bash her for being a religious zealot when she only mentions it once

You'd have to be a religious zealot in her position. She believes in a dead religion. 

She also really is the only one to judge you for your opinions on religion, specifically how they relate to her. I remember she reacted rather negatively to my Shepard proclaiming his atheism.

I remember what made me hate Ashley. She asked my Sole Survivor Shepard how he survived Akuze, and what gave him the strength to survive. I told her it was skill and my own indomitable will to survive. She immediately dismissed that as me not giving credit to a higher power by claiming that someone was looking out for me.

[RZIBARA]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You'd have to be a religious zealot in her position. She believes in a dead religion. 

She also really is the only one to judge you for your opinions on religion, specifically how they relate to her. I remember she reacted rather negatively to my Shepard proclaiming his atheism.

I remember what made me hate Ashley. She asked my Sole Survivor Shepard how he survived Akuze, and what gave him the strength to survive. I told her it was skill and my own indomitable will to survive. She immediately dismissed that as me not giving credit to a higher power by claiming that someone was looking out for me.

why do i not believe this is true?  I have a feeling you're exaggerating or pulling this from your ass

Modifié par RZIBARA, 11 septembre 2013 - 12:14 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

RZIBARA wrote...

Because theres a good chance it wouldnt work, which was the case (iirc) in me3. They were all indoctrinated

That was the problem yes. Before I elaborate on overcoming that, I want to congratulate you on not resorting to some crap morality argument.

Your point does indeed account for the inherent danger of working with Reaper tech. It's like the one ring, though not quite as extreme. It's very difficult to safely dissect and use their technology, but I think with proper precautions in place (which were rather arrogantly disregarded by Cerberus) we could create an effective means of combating them on the short term.

[RZIBARA]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Because theres a good chance it wouldnt work, which was the case (iirc) in me3. They were all indoctrinated

That was the problem yes. Before I elaborate on overcoming that, I want to congratulate you on not resorting to some crap morality argument.

Your point does indeed account for the inherent danger of working with Reaper tech. It's like the one ring, though not quite as extreme. It's very difficult to safely dissect and use their technology, but I think with proper precautions in place (which were rather arrogantly disregarded by Cerberus) we could create an effective means of combating them on the short term.

yes, as i said before, im no david, i make arguments based on facts and things i see.

[Gkonone]

ME1 was great, 2 was horrible, as if they didn't really want her in the game anymore, and then ME3.
The hospital scenes were very nice but after that it was just bad until the end, with the final scene in the cabin and shortly after. Those were great. The cabin/bed scenes are just lovely because it shows how much Shepard cared about her and she cared about him.

Throughout the series I always had the feeling the developers favored Liara as Shepard's default LI. A lot of potential was wasted with Ashley. Same with the Citadel DLC, that was just horrible. Couldn't even invite her over.
She will always be my favorite LI though, beautiful inside and out, and misunderstood.

Modifié par Gkonone, 10 septembre 2013 - 11:59 .

[RZIBARA]

Gkonone wrote...

ME1 was great, 2 was horrible, as if they didn't really want her in the game anymore, and then ME3.
The hospital scenes were very nice but after that it was just bad until the end, with the final scene in the cabin and shortly after. Those were great. The cabin/bed scenes are just lovely because it shows how much Shepard cared about her and she cared about him.

Throughout the series I always had the feeling the developers favored Liara as Shepard's default LI. A lot of potential was wasted with Ashley. Same with the Citadel DLC, that was just horrible. Couldn't even invite her over.
She will always be my favorite LI though, beautiful inside and out, and misunderstood.

yep. I felt she was more of the default LI for male shep in ME1 though

[Iakus]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

She also really is the only one to judge you for your opinions on religion, specifically how they relate to her. I remember she reacted rather negatively to my Shepard proclaiming his atheism.

I remember what made me hate Ashley. She asked my Sole Survivor Shepard how he survived Akuze, and what gave him the strength to survive. I told her it was skill and my own indomitable will to survive. She immediately dismissed that as me not giving credit to a higher power by claiming that someone was looking out for me.

She tells you she thinks "someone was watching over you", sheesh.  She's not judging, she's expressing an opinion.

[XxShadow82xX]

Gkonone wrote...


She will always be my favorite LI though, beautiful inside and out, and misunderstood.

Well said.

[Br3admax]

This thread is still open? Mad props guys.

[RZIBARA]

iakus wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

She also really is the only one to judge you for your opinions on religion, specifically how they relate to her. I remember she reacted rather negatively to my Shepard proclaiming his atheism.

I remember what made me hate Ashley. She asked my Sole Survivor Shepard how he survived Akuze, and what gave him the strength to survive. I told her it was skill and my own indomitable will to survive. She immediately dismissed that as me not giving credit to a higher power by claiming that someone was looking out for me.

She tells you she thinks "someone was watching over you", sheesh.  She's not judging, she's expressing an opinion.

No. Thats a bad thing. If she believes something eles,  then it automatically makes her bad

[SlottsMachine]

 Wow I kinda feel the need to defend Ashley here, at least in regards to Horizon. People need to look at it from her perspective, Shepard shows up after two years and all he can say is A) its my first day space magic. She believe's Shepard is outright lying to her, and a pretty unbelievable lie at that. Of course we know better, but considering that most of us have ripped the Lazarus Project a time or two why do we expect Ashley to believe such nonesense. I would feel betrayed as well. 

Also I would like to pose a question to Massive, if the roles were reversed do you honestly believe Miranda would respond any different? In that I mean if Shepard had been a former Cerberus Operative and had been involved romantically or otherwise with Miranda during that time, and showed up after two years in the Alliance with some ludicrous story. Personally while I think Miranda would be more open minded about the Alliance affiliation initially, she would still feel pretty damn betrayed. Probably holding just as much if not more of a grudge because of it.