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[KenbroSlice]

The only thing I don't understand, and has been bugging me for a while:

In the 'perfect' ending, Shepard survives and gasps for breath just before the credits.
Bioware has said themselves this is the end of Shepards story.

So why for the love of god would the make the ending a cliffhanger.

It seems so painfully obvious that there should be something extra. Something more.
Ending a series on a cliffhanger though, if thats what they did... Thats low.

[Dark Wyn]

yagaelvin wrote...
And btw, can I make a request for someone to compile all of those kind of tweets into one post?

And can someone do it where there are legible and understandable?  Unlike on Twitter?  >=3

[chriseggroll]

I think they have something up their sleeves, Michael Gamble made a pretty cryptic tweet a few days ago. In the meantime, I might just start over from ME1 and take my time.

[Reign762]

KenbroSlice wrote...

The only thing I don't understand, and has been bugging me for a while:

In the 'perfect' ending, Shepard survives and gasps for breath just before the credits.
Bioware has said themselves this is the end of Shepards story.

So why for the love of god would the make the ending a cliffhanger.

It seems so painfully obvious that there should be something extra. Something more.
Ending a series on a cliffhanger though, if thats what they did... Thats low.

They also said they wouldn't do that.  Among other things.

[Sikelcell]

Fingertrip wrote...

I think her biggest give-away at the ending is the obvious;
- "if you just finished today then I would advise that you sit down (AFK) with a warm beverage & think about it a bit Seriously."

Take the hint. Indoctrination speculations are accurate.

I've seen the main video showcasing "proof" of indoctrination. None of their points swayed me into believing it. If anything, her whole "think about it for a bit", is her way of telling people to look deeper than what's shown. The endings were pretty open to interpertation.

[humes spork]

Maria Caliban wrote...

ninjaNumber1 wrote...

Yea, reminds me of the ****ty movie Repomen or something. You wakeup and realize that after halfway of the movie, you got knocked out which resulted in paralysis and are dreaming lool.

The first two hours of Mullholland Drive is a dream. The same for Jacob's Ladder. Those are both excellent movies.

Yes, people use 'it's a dream' for a cheap resolution, but that doesn't mean that 'it's a dream' is inherently bad.

Taxi Driver. Oh, and Minority Report got absolutely reamed among audiences until people started cluing into the movie's ending, then it experienced a sharp increase in opinion.

Actually, throw any film adaptation of a Philip K. Dick short story in here.

[kramerfan86]

Ill take it as they want me to get excited for some awesome multiplayer DLC : (

[KenbroSlice]

Kahlder wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

I think her biggest give-away at the ending is the obvious;
- "if you just finished today then I would advise that you sit down (AFK) with a warm beverage & think about it a bit Seriously."

Take the hint. Indoctrination speculations are accurate.

I've seen the main video showcasing "proof" of indoctrination. None of their points swayed me into believing it. If anything, her whole "think about it for a bit", is her way of telling people to look deeper than what's shown. The endings were pretty open to interpertation.

If they ever want to expand the ME universe (without relying on prequels, which would suck) they absolutely must give us something more concrete. To make a non-Shepard ME game that takes place after the reapers would be impossible if everyones interperetation of what happened at the end of ME3 was different. They need something concrete.

[GeneralRam]

I can Hackett wrote...

Which is more of a reason why people need to stop being so disrespectful they are listening to our concerns and they dont deserve to be talked to the way they are

treat people the way you want to be treated is all I have to say

Uh hello we have the right to talk to them the way we want .. we paid out of our own wallets for this game so we expect better

[yagaelvin]

Dark Wyn wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...
And btw, can I make a request for someone to compile all of those kind of tweets into one post?

And can someone do it where there are legible and understandable?  Unlike on Twitter?  >=3

Lol.  That too.  It's too bad the Twitter thread ending up dying or that would be the perfect place for it. 

All I've seen of tweets posted here from various threads (which are either buried way in the thread or I can't find) have been all the same topic of  "No comment" .  I don't think I've seen ONE definite answer since the release and considering how they were during the lead up, that's just weird

Modifié par yagaelvin, 13 mars 2012 - 05:03 .

[KenbroSlice]

GeneralRam wrote...

I can Hackett wrote...

Which is more of a reason why people need to stop being so disrespectful they are listening to our concerns and they dont deserve to be talked to the way they are

treat people the way you want to be treated is all I have to say

Uh hello we have the right to talk to them the way we want .. we paid out of our own wallets for this game so we expect better

If they want to, they can say this is the ending and make you deal with it. Being rude and making harsh demands is not the way to get them to see our side. We're the ones making demands, but they have all the cards. Its their call, no matter what. So being rude and overreacting is illogical, and leaves very little opportunity anything will be accomplished.

Modifié par KenbroSlice, 13 mars 2012 - 05:00 .

[Umbrellamage]

Reign762 wrote...

KenbroSlice wrote...

The only thing I don't understand, and has been bugging me for a while:

In the 'perfect' ending, Shepard survives and gasps for breath just before the credits.
Bioware has said themselves this is the end of Shepards story.

So why for the love of god would the make the ending a cliffhanger.

It seems so painfully obvious that there should be something extra. Something more.
Ending a series on a cliffhanger though, if thats what they did... Thats low.

They also said they wouldn't do that.  Among other things.

Which is why it's exceptionally bad if this is how it really ends.

[Anuvis13]

I just think she's being nice. I want to hope but I don't want to be let down again if BW says we have to suck it up. I'd feel much worse than I do now.

[RyMann88]

First Bioware never, at any pointed stated that Shepard's story would end with his death. They also never stated that his crew would not be around either.

I'm sure this is not the last time we'll SEE Shepard or crew. But it might be the last time we'll play as them. Future titles may just make references and/or appearences instead.

Modifié par RyMann88, 13 mars 2012 - 05:02 .

[Kittenpirate]

Some guy tweeted this to Jessica.
@JessicaMerizan hey jessica i just want to pop in and say i loved the game and i feel that the bsn is over reacting.

@TazzMission24 Perhaps. It's hard to think rationally about something you love. I get it. Want to share some of your favorite parts??

[KenbroSlice]

RyMann88 wrote...

First Bioware never, at any pointed stated that Shepard's story would end with his death. They also never stated that his crew would not be around either.

I'm sure this is not the last time we'll SEE Shepard or crew. But it might be the last time we'll play as them. Future titles may just make references and/or appearences instead.

While this may be true, the fact is, as you said yourself, it is supposed to be the end of his story.
If he survived the blast, and was alive in the rubble (as the ending scene shows) and no more is offered after that?
His story is in no way over. And continuing it with comments and information from another game is simply not doing it justice.

So does he need to die for his story to end? No. But for a story to end, it needs a conclusion. Shepard's doesn't have one.

[bossk-office]

@KenRaves we're always reading and listening to feedback. :-)

Gotta love that smiley there

[Maialeth]

If the theory on indoctrination is true.. I seriously hope that they don't charge for the end of the game. It would be an AWESOME thing to release the ending later, letting the fans experience the indoc process like that.. But then to claim that's what they were doing and charge for the 'real endings' would be a dangerous precident to set.

[UnevenElefant5]

thesnake777 wrote...

We all must be civil.
But honestly I need an official statement .. all I have heard is alot of stalling and I just want a answer.....

Honestly I think Bioware is still reeling from the backlash of it all. If I were them I would be hesitant to release a statement, because if I don't back it up, then it will be worse than not ever releasing a statement. Pretty much each important tweet from Bioware staff I've seen gets put up here, so they know if they say something and don't back it up, we're going to rip them apart for it.


my god these threads grow fast I just realized this post is like 6 pages old

Modifié par UnevenElefant5, 13 mars 2012 - 05:40 .

[Anuvis13]

UnevenElefant5 wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

We all must be civil.
But honestly I need an official statement .. all I have heard is alot of stalling and I just want a answer.....

Honestly I think Bioware is still reeling from the backlash of it all. If I were them I would be hesitant to release a statement, because if I don't back it up, then it will be worse than not ever releasing a statement. Pretty much each important tweet from Bioware staff I've seen gets put up here, so they know if they say something and don't back it up, we're going to rip them apart for it.


my god these threads grow fast I just realized this post is like 6 pages old

Yeah, they are probably discussing how to best handle the situation amongst themselves and the potential consequences.

[Talcon Warrior]

Kittenpirate wrote...

Some guy tweeted this to Jessica.
@JessicaMerizan hey jessica i just want to pop in and say i loved the game and i feel that the bsn is over reacting.

@TazzMission24 Perhaps. It's hard to think rationally about something you love. I get it. Want to share some of your favorite parts??

I have taken a special pleasure from watching Tazz on BSN, and now on Twitter. While I personally disagree with his views, I respect his opinions and believe that there always must be some voices of dissent to keep the mob mentality from getting too wrapped up in the fervor.

Who-ever you are, Tazz, I think you're slightly crazy, but kudos to you sir.

[Wattoes]

malakim2099 wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

I think her biggest give-away at the ending is the obvious;
- "if you just finished today then I would advise that you sit down (AFK) with a warm beverage & think about it a bit Seriously."

Take the hint. Indoctrination speculations are accurate.

So Shepard becoming a Reaper minion is... better than the endings so far? 

Or is there some sort of angle to the Indoctrination argument I'm missing? Granted, the mind game aspect makes sense with all the "suddenly people are back on the Normandy which is in hyperspace even though it had no way to get there right away...", but still.

And yes, the outrage IS currently justified. Now, if Bioware fixes this... then the forgiveness will begin. But until then, Bioware and EA gets no more $ from me. Period.

The indoctrination theory is no better.

If your message or intent isn't clear then you have failed.  Someone shouldn't have to come to a forum to find out what "actually" happened.  Thats just as bad as the endings themselves. 

[Turtlicious]

It's like the Chel/GlaDos theory, if you haven't looked it up, do so it's pretty interesting.

You don't HAVE to, but it's just a way to disect things between games/DLC, no-one is saying that people should have to go to the forum to find out what actually happened, we're saying this is a sneak peek for those who find it and research it.

[xeNNN]

KenbroSlice wrote...

My tweet to her: I've got nothing but love for Bioware, but those endings... I'm trusting Bioware on this one. Hope you do the fans right.

Her response: I appreciate your trust. That's an important thing to have and I don't think you should lose faith


While this means very little to most, it meant two things to me:

One, it gave me a little glimmer of hope, because at the very least she is implying that she knows something we don't.
And two, its really nice to see how polite and courteous she was, and that she is actually taking the time to address many of the complaints on an individual level.

that may actually be a good thing or shes just yanking your chain.