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[tetrisblock4x1]

TopWargamer wrote...

 This is all copy and pasted from another website.

Posted by: halomaster10144How can you enjoy them?  They're all melancholy and sad, along with lacking a real objective.  

That's the point.
You are in the final battle to defeat the Reapers, everybody thinks that the Crucibal is a huge ship that shoots out beams or some crap like that to take down all of the Reapers. 
The Crucibal lands on The Citadel, and then that's when you found out the only decisions to choose. Each would stop the Reapers, but in the end, you would still have to sacrifice your life to save the galaxy.
Kill one, save the rest. You can't change the purpose of the Crucibal. The Crucibal's only way to defeat the Reapers was one of those 3 decisions. You can't change canon to make the community happy, i'm sorry, but that's what the Crucibal is, and that's how you activate it.

I thought that the crucibal was just a useless piece of junk? It never actually did anything even though the blueprint proceedures for the construction and activation were followed to the letter.

[Elios]

TopWargamer wrote...

 This is all copy and pasted from another website.

Posted by: halomaster10144How can you enjoy them?  They're all melancholy and sad, along with lacking a real objective.  

That's the point.
You are in the final battle to defeat the Reapers, everybody thinks that the Crucibal is a huge ship that shoots out beams or some crap like that to take down all of the Reapers. 
The Crucibal lands on The Citadel, and then that's when you found out the only decisions to choose. Each would stop the Reapers, but in the end, you would still have to sacrifice your life to save the galaxy.
Kill one, save the rest. You can't change the purpose of the Crucibal. The Crucibal's only way to defeat the Reapers was one of those 3 decisions. You can't change canon to make the community happy, i'm sorry, but that's what the Crucibal is, and that's how you activate it.

which would be fine but the destorying ALL AI? AND THE RELAYS? the in the end you throw your life away and galaxy is still boned thats the issue i have not that people die but that no matter what you do EVERY ONE ELSE IS STILL SCREWED

[AgentEpsilona]

That's the problem everyone has with the ending; whatever you do, every single character is screwed, (due to various reasons I'm not going over here, due to this being the NO SPOILERS forum,) which is just miserable. And lazy writing. Whatever the "crucible" was meant to do, you know a trilogy sucks if the ending is "everything failed and everyone died, and nothing you ever did meant anything,"

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

TopWargamer wrote...

 This is all copy and pasted from another website.

Posted by: halomaster10144How can you enjoy them?  They're all melancholy and sad, along with lacking a real objective.  

That's the point.
You are in the final battle to defeat the Reapers, everybody thinks that the Crucibal is a huge ship that shoots out beams or some crap like that to take down all of the Reapers. 
The Crucibal lands on The Citadel, and then that's when you found out the only decisions to choose. Each would stop the Reapers, but in the end, you would still have to sacrifice your life to save the galaxy.
Kill one, save the rest. You can't change the purpose of the Crucibal. The Crucibal's only way to defeat the Reapers was one of those 3 decisions. You can't change canon to make the community happy, i'm sorry, but that's what the Crucibal is, and that's how you activate it.

Your telling like if saving the Galaxy was the first objective of every Shepard, when it is not and was actually acknowledged by the game since the ending of the Shadow Brocker DLC.

[NeecHMonkeY]

I hated the idea of Day One DLC.

The fact that you don't seem to be able to get enough EMS points in Single player alone really p*ssed me off.

I was dreading the ending after all the hype and people complaining but...

... I absolutely loved the ending of the game and thought it was a perfect way to close the trilogy. It reminded me of classic Sci-Fi such as 2001: A Space Odyssey and Carl Sagan's Contact. After now finally seeing it, I'm really surprised (and a little confused) by the hate.

I chose the middle option as that seemed to make the most sense, a choice that the trilogy was building towards from the very beginning I thought. What happened next really made me look at my Shepard as the hero he was always meant to be and understand completely why Bioware gave him the name 'Shepard'.

The galaxy has a fresh start to learn from it's past mistakes and Shepard has given them a headstart by taking them to the next stage of evolution.

I'm very satisfied.

Modifié par NeecHMonkeY, 14 mars 2012 - 01:31 .

[FAButzke]

I just love how people complain about the endings saying that it was "sloppy writing" and "they thought about those endings in five minutes" and "they screw the entire series" and "they have no connections with past lore whatsoever". I need only one quick recap to counter this:

Harbinger said at the end of ME2: "HUMAN! YOU CHANGED NOTHING. THOSE YOU CALL REAPERS ARE YOUR SALVATION THROUGH DESTRUCTION."

There you have it. Now you all can thank me.

That being said, I too support a better ending. At least some epilogues (like we had in Baldur's Gate 2).

Modifié par FAButzke, 14 mars 2012 - 01:45 .

[shepskisaac]

Yes, I definitely don't understand the Normandy + teleporting squadmates part. That's the problem.

[Siven80]

I too definately dont understand the ending. I'm confused. To me the last 10mins was a cluster**** of "WTF just happened" and "i dont understand".

I dont mind if Shep died or whatever at the end as long as i can understand the ending and its shown/told clearly...which ME3 doesnt do.

So i am unhappy.....but i still liked the rest of the game.

[NeecHMonkeY]

IsaacShep wrote...

Yes, I definitely don't understand the Normandy + teleporting squadmates part. That's the problem.

The squadmates you don't take with you end up on the Normandy and obviously take part in the air/space battle.

The 2 squadmates you do take with you unfortunately get wiped out by Harbinger in the final dash.

Modifié par NeecHMonkeY, 14 mars 2012 - 01:52 .

[tetrisblock4x1]

FAButzke wrote...

I just love how people complain about the endings saying that it was "sloppy writing" and "they thought about those endings in five minutes" and "they screw the entire series" and "they have no connections with past lore whatsoever". I need only one quick recap to counter this:

Harbinger said at the end of ME2: "HUMAN! YOU CHANGED NOTHING. THOSE YOU CALL REAPERS ARE YOUR SALVATION THROUGH DESTRUCTION."

There you have it. Now you all can thank me.

That being said, I too support a better ending. At least some epilogues (like we had in Baldur's Gate 2).

The lack of epilogues of any kind indicates to me that Bioware want to leave ME3 open as possible for DLC post-game content but are feeling somewhat indecisive in regards to what that content should be. My guess is that Bioware are holding back for now and that they're monitoring everybodies save game content to get a better idea of what kind of a DLC plan that they'll develop for the game.

[DrGulag]

NeecHMonkeY  I chose the middle option as that seemed to make the most sense, a choice that the trilogy was building towards from the very beginning I thought. What happened next really made me look at my Shepard as the hero he was always meant to be and understand completely why Bioware gave him the name 'Shepard'.

You think it was a good ending? To rewrite the DNA for every organic creature (plant, animal and what have you) without consent so they become this weird cyborg entity that no-one knows anything about. Basically this is what lunatic Saren wanted to do and my main character filled his body with high velocity projectiles for it.

And destroying all organic and synthetic life by creating an entirely new "life form" is achieved via green space magic?.

Poorly written, horribly executed, somewhat ripped off from Deus Ex and just a weird option in my book for Mass Effect universe.

Modifié par DrGulag, 14 mars 2012 - 02:14 .

[shepskisaac]

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

The 2 squadmates you do take with you unfortunately get wiped out by Harbinger in the final dash.

Exept that Kaidan who I took with me for the final mission then appeared on jungle planet. Oops

[jackyboy666]

 I think someone posted a huge ass thread about what REALLY should have happened, and I'm just trying to piece together if its right...so bare with me.

SPOILERS - BEWARE



The Reapers are in fact the remains of millions of years of harvested species consolidated into near immortalized machines. There basic goal is to carry on harvesting intelligent life to the end of time so that they can achieve perfection. classic AI doom theory there so thats good.
The Crucible was a desperate last measure added on to and designed by countless of suffering species as a last act against the reapers from returning to harvest life. It hooks up to the Citadel and boom uses the mass relays to wipe out all Reaper tech, that includes also the mass relays. So whether or not the crucible is good or not is beside the point, it CAN defeat the reapers.
The Illusive man was indoctrinated from the beginning. A meer puppet of the reapers to act as a leader of the splinter group Cerberus to deviate and cause problems from within the galaxy to disrupt any attempt of the reapers taking control and harvesting all life. Basically they were tricking the Illusive man and his followers into thinking that the reapers can be controlled, which is essentially a lie. If this is true then thats good. It just goes to show how ruthless the reapers are in achieveing their goals.
But what ME3 should do is take into consideration that the war assets you make actually dictate your outcome. In the alleged "Dream sequence" you are not actually on the crucible but are still unconcious on earth, being indocrinated and convinced that the decisions you are going to make once you get there are the right ones (remember the rubble at the end Sheps laying in).

You can either use the crucible to destroy the reapers, use it to do what the illusive man did to control them (although I feel this is a slight plothole, as it would never work anyway as the catalyst told shep its just the reapers fooling you into thinking that it will save lives when in fact it wont) or you can tell the catalyst to go F**^ itself and use your fleet to take the reapers head on. 
This will conclude in an epic battle and depending on your readiness, you will win (for the vast majority of it) or lose.
Not sure if the plotholes can explain that the reapers could be taken control of exactly, and how it would benefit anyone. unless Shepard is infact unique and is able to do that by merging somehow with the energy of the crucible? I'm not sure.

The ending could result in the following. The repears are wiped out by the crucibles blast, bust also destroying the mass relays (they are reaper tech as far as I'm aware) and the galaxy ends up attempting to rebuild the mass relays from the mars archelogical sites. A somewhat happy ending that could see shep with his loved one staring at a mass relay being rebuilt in space by large fleets)

Theres the control ending, which just shows the galaxy celebrating and the reapers vanishing into the stars all derped up and docile. And people wondering where Shepard went too? mouring etc

or the large attack on the reapers head on that results in various deaths/or not so many deaths depending on your relationships, skills etc built up over the 3 games. The reapers will mostly be defeated and warn off by the might of the galaxy. People celebrating on battle ridden planets (i.e krogan troops on top of dead reapers with guns in the air roaring in victory)

and Shepard coming out from his last fight being cheered by everyone.

Anyway, does this make sense?

Thats what I kinda wanted anyway

[DrGulag]

Continuing from my earlier post : 

And I mean at least in Deus Ex there was some kind of ground work for assimilation. Most humans were augmented so it was possible to connect them to this artificial intelligence since they were already part of the global network. So plants, trees and insects wouldn't connect to the machine, only augmented humans.

But in Mass Effect somehow this green space magic just transforms everything it touches into cyborgs. Jesus.....who came up with this.

Modifié par DrGulag, 14 mars 2012 - 02:09 .

[Stakis]

crucibal ? is that a new mexican indocrinated enemy or something ? alejandro crucibal, reaper agent, olé !

[FERMi27]

Who stickied this? Lol, are the moderators mad or what? This a non spoiler forum, yet they've stickied a thread in here that is spoilerific as it can get

[Gabey5]

The normandy went full herp when they went through the relay

[PnXMarcin1PL]

it's pyrric victory to me anyway
look at the cost of this victory (and no im not protecting this ending or bioware)

[Darth Malignus]

FERMi27 wrote...

Who stickied this? Lol, are the moderators mad or what? This a non spoiler forum, yet they've stickied a thread in here that is spoilerific as it can get

Do the math.

[hitorihanzo]

Hold on. Did this horse**** thread really get stickied? Really? I find that a tad insulting.

[Enyn]

How did this terrible thread get stickied? On a 'no spoiler' forum, no less.

[Mhgasa]

TopWargamer wrote...

 This is all copy and pasted from another website.

Posted by: halomaster10144How can you enjoy them?  They're all melancholy and sad, along with lacking a real objective.  

That's the point.
You are in the final battle to defeat the Reapers, everybody thinks that the Crucibal is a huge ship that shoots out beams or some crap like that to take down all of the Reapers. 
The Crucibal lands on The Citadel, and then that's when you found out the only decisions to choose. Each would stop the Reapers, but in the end, you would still have to sacrifice your life to save the galaxy.
Kill one, save the rest. You can't change the purpose of the Crucibal. The Crucibal's only way to defeat the Reapers was one of those 3 decisions. You can't change canon to make the community happy, i'm sorry, but that's what the Crucibal is, and that's how you activate it.

I get the point of the ending, even if you overlook the things that dont make any sense.

The problem for me is the fact they give me a choice and then they just end the game. No prologue, no seening the consequences, no seeing shepards fate, no seeing the reaction of the galaxy/squadmates, no explanation as to how the crew ended where they did.

Im no asking to be spoonfed, i am however asking that they dont leave me with 100 loose ends and ask me to finish the rest for them with my imagination. They clearly stated that there would be closure and no loose ends. So if this really is their way of giving me closure and this is the type of thing they intend to do moving forward, then its obvious im not the target audience.

[Darth Malignus]

hitorihanzo wrote...

Hold on. Did this horse**** thread really get stickied? Really? I find that a tad insulting.

It would seem so, yes.

[offensivename3730121]

Why is this a sticky thread...

[Adzcriz]

Personally, i get the endings, if BW want to end ME with mass death and galactic chaos, then so be it, but it would be nice if there wasnt plotholes the size of the grand canyon and that it actually made sense. 3 cutscenes dont really aliviate the utter confusion. im not angry or disappointed, im just totally confused, thats the reaction i had, just dumb founded confusion.