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#126
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lol, why does bioware do these counteractive things like stickying a random forum thread that supports their ending that isn't even made by staff?

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Wow mods are stupid.

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Bioware, when did you lose your mind?

Stickying a thread saying "you don't understand" no bioware, we understand:

"He added: "I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the way we've done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens."

Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised."

"The direction Bioware took with the game's endings appears to contradict some of Hudson's earlier statements. In one pre-release interview he claimed that "[Mass Effect 3's ending] is not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.""

sooooo explain please.

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loungeshep wrote...

In the interest of fairness, one of the more civil anti Endings threads should be stickied to.

Probably the one that's giving to that charity.



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Clap Clap, well done mods!

That just says it all really, this has to be the worst forum for spoilers Ive ever come across.

I thought the mods might do something to stop spoilers but instead they encourage it!

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bleetman wrote...

I'd also sure as hell like to know why this is stickied too. I mean, if you guys just don't want my money anymore, just say so. It'll be a time saver for both of us.

Agreed, I find this being stickied to be quite insulting.

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this is madness.. they are all crazy...

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Yeah, if you want to sticky this Bioware, why don't you move it to the spoiler forum and sticky it there.

Sorry, what was that? Oh, you want everyone to see it, and to hell with the spoilers...

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Eralrik wrote...

Hmm at the end of Arrival the Mass Relay destroyed the entire Solar System and according to this the Mass Relays get destroyed so that would mean the Sol Relay would be destroyed as well causeing a Super Nova of immense preportations destroying the Sol system as well so in fact this would destroy all life in the galaxy that has a Mass Relay thus ending the treat of the Reapers as there is no longer a need to harvest life in a galaxy devoid of life.


Completely different ways of destroying the relay though, it could be the beam just disperses the energy from the relay. If you watch the ending cinematic the relay almost falls apart rather than explode.


Personally I thought the ending were good. They did make sense and stayed true to the over arching theme of the series. The only minor complaint I have is the normandy escaping but it's really not a big issue. Just before you go into the beam, Hacket gives a general order to withdraw, maybe thats why the normandy was fleeing.

Modifié par piemanz, 14 mars 2012 - 03:16 .


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InvincibleHero wrote...

Reapers gather the genetic material and save the races they ascend. Recall from ME 2 this was told and it saves all the knowledge of the races and each individual. So in a way preserving them for eternity within an immortal reapear shell. Now the races they cannot ascend they use them for other purposes see collectors and keepers. They may be able to change them back in the future and that may have been the plan. To reseed planets once all was said and done with the main problem solved given in ME 3 ending.

So all the endings given make sense in that context and so does the motivation behind the cycle. Conventional warfare was doomed as was aptly illustrated through the first two games. Gathering forces was only a buy more time type deal. Conceivably maybe you could beat them on one front but that wouldn't work again as the reapers would consolidate their forces to finish the remnants since all was gathered in one place. So an alternate means was needed. Shepard solved the problem ending the cycle where trillions have failed and is a hero of the ages. How is that not a fitting ending? Crisis averted and everyone knows who saved them.


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I'm super serial, you guys - what the Catalyst talks about has got to be one of the most senseless, convoluted, and self-defeating "explanations" I've heard. It doesn't matter if we "get it" or not - it's still completely preposterous and contradicts both the lore and the plots of both ME1 and 2.

EDIT: Also, epic lulz at this thread getting stickied. You's trollin', mods.

Modifié par greengoron89, 14 mars 2012 - 03:20 .


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I think, that in the future, BioWare/EA will CLEARLY understand what happens when you mess around with your fanbase.

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Stickying this is suicide!

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the forum says NO SPOILERS ALLOWED!, learn to read

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OP doesn't know how to spell, kinda a stretch to assume he/she read the forum rules.

Crucible doesn't have an 'a'.

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Metalrocks wrote...

spoiler or not. its no secret anymore how the ending is. the ending simply doesnt make sense at all.


Kotor 2 had better endings. And they weren't the same.

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dakphillips wrote...

the forum says NO SPOILERS ALLOWED!, learn to read



OP doesn't know how to spell, kinda a stretch to assume he/she read the forum rules.

Crucible doesn't have an 'a'.



You do realise this has been stickied by the mods? Hence why it is at the top.

EDIT: Oh yeah, it's been unstickied now. Disregard

Modifié par Cooling85, 14 mars 2012 - 03:27 .


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It's been unstickied

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Priestly just locked a topic and mentioned the use of a stickied thread, so perhaps he'll visit this next.

Should be fun.

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Until we get a matching "the ending is hilariously incoherent" thread stickied it's going to be hard to take any of this seriously.

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So, if OP is right then all this was a lie:

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say
any more than that…”

“Whether you’re happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an
ending. BioWare will not do a “Lost” and leave fans with more questions
than answers after finishing the game.”

“I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the
way we’ve done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you’ve made will
impact how things go. The player’s also the architect of what happens.”


Yes it was a lie. YES it was.

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PKchu wrote...

lol, why does bioware do these counteractive things like stickying a random forum thread that supports their ending that isn't even made by staff?

No clue. That was disconcerting. Methinks it was a newbie mod that actually thought they were helping.

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Why bother understanding something that does away with all my personal investment?

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Oh. It's been moved. In case anyone missed it, this thread was stickied for a good while on the General, spoiler-free forums.

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greengoron89 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Reapers gather the genetic material and save the races they ascend. Recall from ME 2 this was told and it saves all the knowledge of the races and each individual. So in a way preserving them for eternity within an immortal reapear shell. Now the races they cannot ascend they use them for other purposes see collectors and keepers. They may be able to change them back in the future and that may have been the plan. To reseed planets once all was said and done with the main problem solved given in ME 3 ending.

So all the endings given make sense in that context and so does the motivation behind the cycle. Conventional warfare was doomed as was aptly illustrated through the first two games. Gathering forces was only a buy more time type deal. Conceivably maybe you could beat them on one front but that wouldn't work again as the reapers would consolidate their forces to finish the remnants since all was gathered in one place. So an alternate means was needed. Shepard solved the problem ending the cycle where trillions have failed and is a hero of the ages. How is that not a fitting ending? Crisis averted and everyone knows who saved them.


Image IPB

I'm super serial, you guys - what the Catalyst talks about has got to be one of the most senseless, convoluted, and self-defeating "explanations" I've heard. It doesn't matter if we "get it" or not - it's still completely preposterous and contradicts both the lore and the plots of both ME1 and 2.


This just proves you didn't understand it at all.


The Reapers do what they do to keep the galaxy in some kind of balance in their eyes. To them the highest state of being is synthesis, so when they come and harvest the galaxy every 50,000 years they beleive they're ascending the organcs while simultaniously destroying the problematic sythetics.

You might say, "well why don't they just kill the synthetics", it wouldn't work because the organics have evolved and advanced to a point where they will always try to make synthetics. And even if they do let the organics live they run the risk of letting the organics advance to a point where they become so powerful even the Reapers wouldn't be able to defeat them. So their 'solution' is to let organics advance to the point where they create synthitic life, and they come and harvest the organics and destroy the sythetics, effectively creating a galactic reset of technological advancement for the next 50,000 years or so.

Modifié par piemanz, 14 mars 2012 - 03:32 .


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Butane9000 wrote...

Why bother understanding something that does away with all my personal investment?

Who cares 'bout understanding, closure of sense when it's unforgettable.

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piemanz wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Reapers gather the genetic material and save the races they ascend. Recall from ME 2 this was told and it saves all the knowledge of the races and each individual. So in a way preserving them for eternity within an immortal reapear shell. Now the races they cannot ascend they use them for other purposes see collectors and keepers. They may be able to change them back in the future and that may have been the plan. To reseed planets once all was said and done with the main problem solved given in ME 3 ending.

So all the endings given make sense in that context and so does the motivation behind the cycle. Conventional warfare was doomed as was aptly illustrated through the first two games. Gathering forces was only a buy more time type deal. Conceivably maybe you could beat them on one front but that wouldn't work again as the reapers would consolidate their forces to finish the remnants since all was gathered in one place. So an alternate means was needed. Shepard solved the problem ending the cycle where trillions have failed and is a hero of the ages. How is that not a fitting ending? Crisis averted and everyone knows who saved them.


Image IPB

I'm super serial, you guys - what the Catalyst talks about has got to be one of the most senseless, convoluted, and self-defeating "explanations" I've heard. It doesn't matter if we "get it" or not - it's still completely preposterous and contradicts both the lore and the plots of both ME1 and 2.


This just proves you didn't understand it at all.


The Reapers do what they do to keep the galaxy in some kind of balance in their eyes. To them the highest state of being is synthesis, so when they come and harvest the galaxy every 50,000 years the beleive they're ascending the organcs while simultaniously destroying the problematic sythetics.

You might say, "well why don't they just kill the synthetics", it wouldn't work because the organics have evolved and advanced to a point where they will always try to make synthetics. And even if they do let the organics live they run the risk of letting the organics advance to a point where they become so powerful even the Reapers wouldn't be able to defeat them. So their 'solution' is to let organics advance to the point where they create synthitic life, and they come and harvest the organics and destroy the sythetics, effectively creating a galactic reset of technological advancement for the next 50,000 years or so.

While I understand that, it was never a central theme of the franchise. That's what makes it so disconcerting.