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#326
Wikkr

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Nicely summed up.

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CDRSkyShepard

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GOOOOOD MORNING VIETN....

Wait. This isn't Vietnam. At least *I'm* not in Vietnam. XD

Anyhoo...today's quest (on the BSN side, anyway...I've got some stuff to do in RL, too, like fixing the brakes on my car and filling out a pre-employment form...) will be to get this thread stickied. You all can help me with this: just take the link to this thread and give it to all the Mods you know. I don't think there's a thread on the BSN right now that has a more complete list of information. Hopefully this will bring it to their attention and will get it stickied, so that we don't keep getting lost in the pile. It'll also mean we have a central thread for our cause. I will be contacting Chris Priestly myself. Just please be respectful and polite and awesome, and we should be fine.

Let's do this!

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Spyre2001

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bleetman wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

They have to respond eventually.

I'm not expecting much more than a predictable statement about taking our reaction into consideration, and how the community is very important, but ultimately it's impractical to adjust the ending to the degree that we're looking for. All in fluent PRanese. By which I mean it'll be wordy, but ultimately won't say much.

But then, I'm cranky and pessemistic.

Many on the forum's post have suggested radically different endings and I think your right that is likely an impractical request.

What I feel is not impractical is a proper Epilogue though. They could easily create an Epilogue and give it out as Free DLC. Because let's face it they should of been working on that if they had spare time rather then that Day 1 DLC given how rushed the current ending is.

I've already made a post outlining how they could do it with very little need to rewrite the endings. It even explains why the destruction of the Mass Relays is not the end of the universe and leaves hope at the end instead of despair. 
http://social.biowar...index/9849531/1

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OhManTFE

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Great OP. Hope Bioware reads this.

Hold the line!!

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Spoolspawn

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Good thread, everyone needs to remember that cool heads and respectful manner will get us much more than slander and rage.

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I agree completely, Mass Effect 3 does need a more conclusive ending just to make those last five years worth the effort.

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Koobarex

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Great thread, OP. Fully supported by a fan that freakin' cares with all his might.

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Moirai

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Since it may get missed, I'll repost this:

How about this one, Sky?

www.play-mag.co.uk/general/why-the-mass-effect-3-ending-sucked/

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CDRSkyShepard

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Moirai wrote...

Since it may get missed, I'll repost this:

How about this one, Sky?

www.play-mag.co.uk/general/why-the-mass-effect-3-ending-sucked/


I didn't forget about you! I just got a bit busier this morning than I anticipated. That is going up toute de suite.

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Important, shows the lack of difference

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xcomcmdr

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(maybe already posted)

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pomrink

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keep this up

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RavenWoodRCOM

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Great post, Keep up the good work!

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Maugrim

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http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Tycho just posted his views on the endings and movements. It's very fair and well thought out IMO even if he does like them

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was there a reason why did joker left fight on earth and use the relay to runaway from fight

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bleetman

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makenzieshepard wrote...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Tycho just posted his views on the endings and movements. It's very fair and well thought out IMO even if he does like them

It might perhaps be a fairer analysis if it didn't assume Bioware hadn't released several statements along the lines of 'the ending will answer all your questions'.

That sort of thing tends to cause people to expect the ending won't involve raising a bunch more of them, whilst answering hardly any of them.

trancers3 wrote...

was there a reason why did joker left fight on earth and use the relay to runaway from fight

So they could crash on some random planet and channel as much Battlestar Galactica into the ending as possible.

Modifié par bleetman, 14 mars 2012 - 08:19 .


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CDRSkyShepard

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makenzieshepard wrote...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Tycho just posted his views on the endings and movements. It's very fair and well thought out IMO even if he does like them


It's alright, as far as arguments go, but I am a serious reader (and writer) of science fiction. I understand that not all questions can be fundamentally answered. I understand some endings can't be happy.

However, I do not understand why BioWare abandoned many of their themes for the Mass Effect universe. Like hope in the face of impossible odds, or having hope even when those around you have none. Themes like Organics and Synthetics can learn to work together without green space magic. Shepard just accepts the Guardian's analysis that the cycle will always repeat itself...Shepard never questions, citing the quarians and geth, or EDI, or anything else we've seen. The Game Front article basically puts everything out there as it needs to be said, IMO.

As a writer, I can't fathom why these themes all got thrown out the window at the end. The ending should tie them all together, or at least resolve them all in a way that makes sense.

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Maugrim

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I agree with all of the above, my main issue is basically the same. Shep is the incarnation of take a fourth option and rule breaking. It just was pretty fair in the context of the coverage we have been receiving in most of the gaming media and disagreed without being deliberately offensive.

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CDRSkyShepard

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makenzieshepard wrote...

I agree with all of the above, my main issue is basically the same. Shep is the incarnation of take a fourth option and rule breaking. It just was pretty fair in the context of the coverage we have been receiving in most of the gaming media and disagreed without being deliberately offensive.


This is very true. At least Tycho isn't going off on us for being crazy or "entitled." I still love Forbes for that "no, they're not entitled" article they posted. Lol.

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stuffingam

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Isn't it wonderfully ironic that the site supporting us is the least 'gamery', i.e. Forbes?

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bleetman

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I assume it hasn't turned up yet, but there's a Rock Paper Shotgun article about the ending up.

It's a longun, so I haven't read through it all yet. But there you go.

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Moirai

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I think all I can really add at present is that the ending totally blew my socks off.

Unfortunately, they both ended up in my face....

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CDRSkyShepard

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Moirai wrote...

I think all I can really add at present is that the ending totally blew my socks off.

Unfortunately, they both ended up in my face....


Lemme guess...the socks were smelly, too?

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Great Post OP! Will be following this one

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I love this thread so much. This is why we hate the endings.