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#851
Paparob

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This the codex of why we dislike how ME3 ended.

#852
BostonVamp

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Thanks to the OP for putting this together as I think between this thread and the "false advertising" thread, it summarizes our issues. I hope people will take the time to read, discuss and can at least understand our POV. I also hope Bioware does the same as my faith and trust in them is shaken and I'm not convinced that they truly hear our position. What I have heard so far is that we will get an explanation of the endings and not more choice. I do hope I have read Bioware's response wrong.

Hold the line!

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viggorrah

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

viggorrah wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

OH SO MANY COLORS!!!

Check out the OP, now with COLOR-CODED articles. Yup.

IT'S SO PURDY!!


Darn it, I went in to edit the OP again and the colors disappeared...

I FIX IT.

Ugh, I don't understand why the colors don't stick...

#854
nomoredruggs

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Wow this is really a great effort...Thanks for taking the time op!

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Darn it, I went in to edit the OP again and the colors disappeared...

I FIX IT.


Might be a good idea to save your edits on a file before submitting... Seems the forums (or this particular thread) are getting a lot of attention and things can get messed up when editting.

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totalrecall87

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awesome! Thank you for organizing all of this information. Keep it alive

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CDRSkyShepard

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SpeedDevil89 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Darn it, I went in to edit the OP again and the colors disappeared...

I FIX IT.


Might be a good idea to save your edits on a file before submitting... Seems the forums (or this particular thread) are getting a lot of attention and things can get messed up when editting.


Yeah, I've done that. I back up the OP onto a googledoc every time I edit it. The colors between the googledoc and the OP aren't compatible, though. The HTML gets screwed up.

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

SpeedDevil89 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Darn it, I went in to edit the OP again and the colors disappeared...

I FIX IT.


Might be a good idea to save your edits on a file before submitting... Seems the forums (or this particular thread) are getting a lot of attention and things can get messed up when editting.


Yeah, I've done that. I back up the OP onto a googledoc every time I edit it. The colors between the googledoc and the OP aren't compatible, though. The HTML gets screwed up.

Are you saving the BBCode version? Because that should keep the colors... 

Modifié par MissFish, 23 mars 2012 - 02:06 .


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Baineblade

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Hey, would there be any possibility of getting some of the information off of this first post from a 400 page locked thread?

http://social.biowar...4349/1#10084349

there was A LOT of good information on it.

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CDRSkyShepard

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Brilliance, MF. I didn't even think to save the BBCode version.

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SpeedDevil89

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I meant the color codes for the forum. I know you keep the whole OP on googledocs, but what I meant was saving the colored part with the code showing (as it is when you write the post).

PS: Apologies if I don't make much sense... It is getting late here and english is not my main language.

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Brilliance, MF. I didn't even think to save the BBCode version.


I almost didn't post it because I was like, "Nah... she thought of that one."

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Great thread

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I love you so much for getting this all together. Great job.

Hold the line, for as long as it takes.

#865
CDRSkyShepard

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Baineblade wrote...

Hey, would there be any possibility of getting some of the information off of this first post from a 400 page locked thread?

http://social.biowar...4349/1#10084349

there was A LOT of good information on it.


This thread nor my OP aren't going to even touch the PR stuff. I think it's a discussion that needs to be had, but it's too dangerous to have on the BSN right now, especially in the threads. I made this thread to compile information and for people to discuss the endings, not PR tactics. We can discuss what BioWare has been telling us, but not in an analyzing kind of way. We can discuss what we think or feel like they're trying to accomplish, but not "yes, XYZ is going on, this must be it." You know what I mean?

Edit: There are some other links there, as well, and I have most of them. The few I don't have I'll be adding soon.

We need to keep the movement strong, and getting threads locked isn't going to help us at all.

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 23 mars 2012 - 02:17 .


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CDRSkyShepard

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SpeedDevil89 wrote...

I meant the color codes for the forum. I know you keep the whole OP on googledocs, but what I meant was saving the colored part with the code showing (as it is when you write the post).

PS: Apologies if I don't make much sense... It is getting late here and english is not my main language.


I'm saving it in BBCode format from now on, that should fix the problem...or at least make it easier to manage.

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Yesterday I was just thinking this is exactly what the movement needs, great job...

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Ahh a new home thread for me. Haven't gone through the threads but the OP was awesome. And yes I'm tired and skimmed it. Best part for me, to see all the different banners around the world. I have seen a lot of them, but there were more then I even knew. Kudos!

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I would like to add this video from Nobel Prize Winner Daniel Kahneman

www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html

in this he adresses happiness, and why it' feels different from different perspectives in your mind.

tl;dr a single bad memory can ruin an entire experience.

Modifié par Paulomedi, 23 mars 2012 - 03:07 .


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Paparob wrote...

This the codex of why we dislike how ME3 ended.



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CDRSkyShepard

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Paulomedi wrote...

I would like to add this video from Nobel Prize Winner Daniel Kahneman

www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html

in this he adresses happiness, and why it' feels different from different perspectives in your mind.

tl;dr a single bad memory can ruin an entire experience.


This is brillant. Freaking brilliant. I'm now figuring out how to integrate it into the OP.

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I would suggest a very important thing regarding news articles . I suggest separating them into two categories:

1. news articles that reflect that the movement is gaining visibility (such as bbc fox etc covering the story)

2. news articles that give EDITORIAL COMMENTARY . Meaning these are articles by columnists who give opinion that "yes , this is why the fans are right"

i.e. the difference between "this is going on" and "this is the right way of going about it" since we can ease up on the hodgepodge by showing where to get strictly information on the size and scope and visibility and the other expert opinion on why this movement is headed in the right direction . That way people , if looking at this thread , can also more easily access those VERY important opinion articles that say the fans are right without having to go through so many articles on news sites that merely state "yeah , there's some trouble going on"

I fully support this initiative . I had spoken to the owner of the PR thread in hopes of making that a compilation . It's interesting they locked it down . I think we should find some way of salvaging all the relevant PR analysis data BEFORE the lockdown since NONE of that was locked down . As Priestly stated in the end of that thread , it was the accusations of "buying out reviewers" that locked the thread not the PR analysis . Salvaging the PR analysis is something I'll be doing off-site both on the war assets and on the facebook page but if we can get links to the individual threads that were not locked down , it is imperative that people here on the forum can see the previous information that was not under censure .

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Paulomedi wrote...

I would like to add this video from Nobel Prize Winner Daniel Kahneman

www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html

in this he adresses happiness, and why it' feels different from different perspectives in your mind.

tl;dr a single bad memory can ruin an entire experience.


This is brillant. Freaking brilliant. I'm now figuring out how to integrate it into the OP.


The original thread: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10481863/3#10493696

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+1 I've been lurking here since I finished the game, more than a week ago. I hated the endings, for all the reasons listed. Today I was shocked to see the PR thread gone. Glad this is up. Keep up the fight, guys!

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Excellent OP! +1

Nearly all of the listed items in the first post were issues for me, but none more so that the lack of "wildly divergent endings."